janoimagine
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I am sure The Force Awakens will be a great film, but I for one was really hoping for a live action version of the Thrawn Trilogy.
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FigmentJedi
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Someone as popular as Thrawn probably won't stay in Legends forever. He's one of the more likely characters to show up in some capacity in the future. Aftermath does talk about a mysterious and powerful fleet commander...Thrawn is EU so now classed as Legends so no movie for him unfortunately
ProfSavage
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You beat me to it! And apparently, the guy who did the audiobooks for the Thrawn trilogy and the duology also did the audiobook recording for Aftermath and the Fleet Admiral voice he does is the same as Thrawn....
ProfSavage
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Also it should be noted that in Tarkin (great book btw, everyone read it) there are hints and allusions to things that are, now, in the Legends series.
HMF
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So we are now supposed to believe nothing happened in the 10 years between 1 and 2? I really don't see why it was necessary to wipe everything other than everything post-ROTJ which had to go for the new films. After all the new books keep making references to old books and comics that are considered "Legends" anyway.
*Q*
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Everything that Lucasfilm and Disney puts out is considered canon now. EVERYTHING. All of the novels, comic books, Rebels TV show, the mobile games, the Battlefront video game, everything since A New Dawn is official, along with The Clone Wars and possibly Knights of the Old Republic. They did away with the levels of canon that the EU had before, and just seem to be making a better effort with coordinating across all of their various forms of media.
ProfSavage
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AEfx
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I think folks kind of misunderstand the intent and purpose behind "Legends" status.
The only main canon has ever been the filmed media. The rest were all assorted under various levels of canon which reached ridiculous proportions and did not coordinate with each other.
What Lucasfilm under Disney has done is to reaffirm that the filmed media is the canon, and now is selectively adding back things in - but at this point, when something is added back in - it becomes official canon. Many fans lost their noodles over the initial announcement and didn't realize that in fact, this elevated the EU not destroyed it - at least, the parts that really mattered. Now, when those things are added back in, they are now part of the main, singular Star Wars canon officially. They never were before.
It had to happen, and they did it beautifully. There is now one, cohesive Star Wars universe, no matter how you experience it - via film, novel, comic, video game, trading card...etc. They also have room to tell many stories they couldn't have previously. They are establishing a level of coherence between the various Star Wars media that Lucasfilm simply never even attempted to do while they concentrated on endless licensing deals and employed more lawyers than creative folk.
ProfSavage
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Agreed. and exactly. I've seen it debated before in other forums, but a lot of fans don't realize that the old EU was never really recognized as official canon... now everything is indeed canon and that's exciting!
Everyone remembers Thrawn fondly and with nostalgia, but in the old EU for every Thrawn trilogy and X-Wing series, you also had the Crystal Star, the Young Jedi Knights series, and lots of other schlock. And since I always felt the Yuuzhan Vong was horribly, that means they're out now too.
I also think, as this relates to Disney, that the planet that will be now in DHS and DL is a canon planet. Meaning that it is someplace you can visit and would officially be on the galactic atlas. I think that is exciting, too!
MerlinTheGoat
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It seems reasonable to assume that parts of the EU are probably going to remain canon, and other parts will be rewritten. What we know so far is that likely everything occurring after Return of the Jedi in the EU is now all probably non-canon. But the stories written prior to Phantom Menace may or may not be.
For instance, the Clone Wars cartoon actually featured the previously EU-exclusive character Darth Bane. Not previously mentioned by name in any of the movies, he's the sith lord who established the "rule of two" around 1000 years before Phantom Menace (one master and one apprentice). So it's plausible that some of the associated characters and events from Bane's stories are still canon. There are actually tons of stories occurring in the hundreds and even thousands of years before any of the 9 main films. It's not impossible that at least some of them may remain canon, or parts of them at least. Disney may or may not ever go back that far themselves, so until they state either way to their accuracy, who can say?
On the other hand, it's likely that anything established solely in the EU regarding the Phantom Menace and forwards in time is probably going to be stricken from canon. Much already has, particularly any stories following Return of the Jedi. Even EU stories occurring between the gaps of the prequel trilogy are showing signs of non-canon now. One example being the character arc of the jedi Depa Billaba. In the EU, (spoilers)
. Her character is rewritten in the new Rebels series, she was Kanan's master and died during Order 66 protecting Kanan.
For instance, the Clone Wars cartoon actually featured the previously EU-exclusive character Darth Bane. Not previously mentioned by name in any of the movies, he's the sith lord who established the "rule of two" around 1000 years before Phantom Menace (one master and one apprentice). So it's plausible that some of the associated characters and events from Bane's stories are still canon. There are actually tons of stories occurring in the hundreds and even thousands of years before any of the 9 main films. It's not impossible that at least some of them may remain canon, or parts of them at least. Disney may or may not ever go back that far themselves, so until they state either way to their accuracy, who can say?
On the other hand, it's likely that anything established solely in the EU regarding the Phantom Menace and forwards in time is probably going to be stricken from canon. Much already has, particularly any stories following Return of the Jedi. Even EU stories occurring between the gaps of the prequel trilogy are showing signs of non-canon now. One example being the character arc of the jedi Depa Billaba. In the EU, (spoilers)
Depa Billaba apparently falls to the dark side and is eventually left in a comatose state at the end of her story, her final fate left unknown (probably killed by clones while unconscious during Order 66)
zakattack99
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Yes please I hated that storyline. Even before disney bought star wars I rejected this as cannon lol. But seriously Disney is doing a great job here and I feel like it's streamlining and unifying the star wars universe. It seems more cohesive, that each pice seems to have a place and not just thrown out there.
ProfSavage
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Same. Never liked it. In fac, a friend of mine and I turned Yuuzhan Vong into a verb. It means to actively dismiss or pretend as if certain aspects of canon, of any franchise, does not exist.
PinnySmart
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Thank you! I wanted to ask the same question but was afraid it was so obvious that I would be embarrassed. I'm not a huge fan but I'm trying to follow along and stay informed. I saw the original trilogy during it premiere run back in the day(yes I am that old) and I saw the prequel trilogy on DVD. Most of the info I get comes from threads like this so I may ask some stupid questions.
FigmentJedi
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Bane comes straight from George's notes for Episode 1. However his inclusion doesn't mean everything associated with him is coming back. In fact, they're rethinking the entire look of the Old Republic Era whenever presenting stuff from it. Instead of BioWare's whole "Everything looks the freaking same as the six movies", they're going for a feudal Japan look. Besides Darth Bane's redone design, you also have the katana-like Darksaber and Ahsoka's outfit in Rebels being based on Old Republic gear, with the sabers being something she took from a really ancient temple.
zakattack99
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I am using this for now on lol
ProfSavage
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By all means