Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

rsm

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In small managed quantities so that they can always be sold-out, no matter the demand. There's triple the needed quantities of each item sitting in the warehouse.

Then I don't quite follow Villains0501's argument. If the products have been poorly designed to not create enough demand such that artificial means of reducing supply are necessary, what would the purpose of doing so be? If the argument was that they should make as much money as possible, then currently, they have people standing there with money in hand trying to pay for things that are "sold out", so they walk away without having spent their money. If the PR of being able to advertise "sold out" is ultimately more lucrative than that additional X number of crystals that they would've sold in that given day then the argument holds up... but that seems unlikely, as Disney isn't putting out commercials boasting of sold out merchandise. What they do seem to be worried about are lower than expected attendance. And it would seem odd to anger the "small number" of people who are coming by not allowing them to buy the souvenirs they came for, risking a larger PR problem.
 

erasure fan1

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And here's the thing that lets you know the upper brass realizes just what a problem they have in their second most important franchise. When they pushed out the AP holders, and when they increased prices to a premium for those crazy people who wait at midnight for Star Wars movie launches... those people who pushed Force Awakens over 2 billion with almost zero help from China... they didn't come. And they didn't build a billion dollar expansion to keep the exact same clientele, keep the exact same pricing structure, etc. But that's what they're looking at now. They just built a more expensive version of Potterland, a bigger version of Pandora, and it basically didn't pull in anybody new. They're three days into it and they've discounted tickets by more than 50%.
Exactly. Disney doesn't think they need the AP people or the middle class average person because they don't spend enough cash. What they fail to realize is they are the BEST advertisement for the parks. We are the ones who champion the brand the hardest. Maybe this is the start of a pushback from the fans. I really hope we see people staying away from Disney world to give Disney a bit of a humble pill.
 

WDW Pro

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Then I don't quite follow Villains0501's argument. If the products have been poorly designed to not create enough demand such that artificial means of reducing supply are necessary, what would the purpose of doing so be? If the argument was that they should make as much money as possible, then currently, they have people standing there with money in hand trying to pay for things that are "sold out", so they walk away without having spent their money. If the PR of being able to advertise "sold out" is ultimately more lucrative than that additional X number of crystals that they would've sold in that given day then the argument holds up... but that seems unlikely, as Disney isn't putting out commercials boasting of sold out merchandise. What they do seem to be worried about are lower than expected attendance. And it would seem odd to anger the "small number" of people who are coming by not allowing them to buy the souvenirs they came for, risking a larger PR problem.

It's a simple marketing ploy. They might actually be selling out of the black crystals since people discovered how to know which ones are which, and they might genuinely be selling out of yellow and white. But they've got more of those things than you can imagine premade and ready to go to WDW in a month via truck. They can make thousands more in time if they pull from the WDW supply and it wouldn't hurt a thing. It's just artificial scarcity to drive an online narrative.
 

WDW Pro

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Your tinfoil mouse ears are showing.

Artificial scarcity to drive an online narrative isn't worth the opportunity cost or lost merchandise sales. Not to mention the loss of goodwill.

Good grief. If you buy a $200 light saber, you're the kind of person who will come back to buy a different colored crystal later on. Artificial scarcity is something the entertainment industry has been doing to great affect all the way back to Nintendo's purposeful slow production of the original Nintendo Wii for the first six months of its release.

And you'll notice, they're not running out of the light sabers themselves... and they're much, much harder to produce. They're running out of some colors of plastic crystals... I mean, give me a break, they're all made on the same production line, and Disney can change the amount of each color if they want to. They want certain colors to be "rare".
 

_bluebird

Member
And you'll notice, they're not running out of the light sabers themselves... and they're much, much harder to produce. They're running out of some colors of plastic crystals... I mean, give me a break, they're all made on the same production line, and Disney can change the amount of each color if they want to. They want certain colors to be "rare".
To be fair, it's much easier to predict Savi lightsaber consumption, since it's limited to 14 people every half hour. With the kyber crystals, any visitor can snatch a couple up, and I think a lot more folks than they were expecting did so.
 

drod1985

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And you'll notice, they're not running out of the light sabers themselves... and they're much, much harder to produce. They're running out of some colors of plastic crystals... I mean, give me a break, they're all made on the same production line, and Disney can change the amount of each color if they want to. They want certain colors to be "rare".

First bolded point - Incorrect, they've been out of stock on over half of the legacy hilt offerings - the replica sabers that sell for $109-$199 - for over a week now.

Second bolded point - Partially incorrect. Savi's has an appropriate supply of 4 of the crystal colors with no packaging. This makes the most sense because they can anticipate demand based on experience capacity. Whereas the standalone (packaged) Kyber crystals are entirely sold out. They likely underestimated demand on the standalone Kyber crystals because they're an accessory product to either the $199 Savi sabers or the $49 Holocrons.

Debates and discussions are great...if you come prepared with proper facts.
 

wserratore1963

Active Member
Does anyone know what the WDW GE plans are for August 29, 30,31? I know they announced AP sneak peaks early in the month.
We are going to be there Aug 28th-Sept 3rd. We will going on the Extra EMH on the 1st and 2nd. We are on Property on our DVC/BLT and AP's as well - just curious. Looking forward to it no matter what.
 

Nunu

Wanderluster
Premium Member
Does anyone know what the WDW GE plans are for August 29, 30,31? I know they announced AP sneak peaks early in the month.
We are going to be there Aug 28th-Sept 3rd. We will going on the Extra EMH on the 1st and 2nd. We are on Property on our DVC/BLT and AP's as well - just curious. Looking forward to it no matter what.

This is where you'll find more about this. Many of us are waiting for news about previews for AP's SWGE WDW.
 

wserratore1963

Active Member

This is where you'll find more about this. Many of us are waiting for news about previews for AP's SWGE WDW.
many thanks
 

Villains0501

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Then I don't quite follow Villains0501's argument. If the products have been poorly designed to not create enough demand such that artificial means of reducing supply are necessary, what would the purpose of doing so be? If the argument was that they should make as much money as possible, then currently, they have people standing there with money in hand trying to pay for things that are "sold out", so they walk away without having spent their money. If the PR of being able to advertise "sold out" is ultimately more lucrative than that additional X number of crystals that they would've sold in that given day then the argument holds up... but that seems unlikely, as Disney isn't putting out commercials boasting of sold out merchandise. What they do seem to be worried about are lower than expected attendance. And it would seem odd to anger the "small number" of people who are coming by not allowing them to buy the souvenirs they came for, risking a larger PR problem.

Apologies if my post was misleading. I wasn't referencing supply shortages or poor product design. From the reviews I've read, both the crystals and holocrons seem to be winners! My point was that something akin to an interactive Jedi Academy (a la Hogwarts) might have been a better, more convenient alternative to the smaller shop we got. It would have been a great base for "Force"-centric merchandise and experiences and it would have had better capacity. But, of course, the post-Jedi approach taken by the films makes this argument largely moot.

Given more time, DHS might have been able to expand Savi's and avoid some of Disneyland's crowding and demand problems for the store. As it is, I fear snagging a lightsaber reservation might prove even more elusive in Florida.
 

Nunu

Wanderluster
Premium Member
Too much work to go back and delete all of the DL stuff - but will delete any future OT posts.

People - this is about DHS, not DL. There is another forum to discuss DL.
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TP2000

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This is a Disneyland thing, but it would appear to give us a big clue about Rise of the Resistance.

Disneyland just announced the MSEP is coming back to the park this summer for a "limited engagement" through September 30th. I'm not making that up, they're really bringing back the Electrical Parade. 😕

That seems to lend credence to the growing rumors that Resistance won't be opening until October at the earliest, perhaps later.
 

WDW Pro

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This is a Disneyland thing, but it would appear to give us a big clue about Rise of the Resistance.

Disneyland just announced the MSEP is coming back to the park this summer for a "limited engagement" through September 30th. I'm not making that up, they're really bringing back the Electrical Parade. 😕

That seems to lend credence to the growing rumors that Resistance won't be opening until October at the earliest, perhaps later.

According to some very accurate sources that you can find if you search the right places (that is to say it's being discussed in parts of the web), Engineering Leads for Resistance were asked this morning what it would it take to have it opened by D23, and Engineering basically responded they didn't see how it was possible. And the fact that stuff like that is leaking... whooh the fingers are being pointed everywhere.
 

Stripes

Premium Member
So this is interesting. I was curious how the model lined up with the final product in Anaheim, and of course there are a few minor differences, but overall it’s pretty darn close. Most differences are where it’s clear the model didn’t have the necessary details, and it looks better in the final product. But I noticed one thing that is the same in Orlando and the model but different in Anaheim. This cylinder outside the marketplace.
Painted same color as exterior in Anaheim:
385093

Painted blue in model:
385094


Painted blue in Orlando:
385097
 

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