Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

jt04

Well-Known Member
The other problem with building a garage is that it locks you in a little more for future expansion. There is very little to loose if you build a surface lot and then eventually decide to expand the park into it. That becomes a lot more expensive you built a garage.

IMO garages should be designed as a very long term solution and built so that they can be built on top of. Perhaps hotels or restaurants etc.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Yeah - ever seen the staffing at the Disney Springs garage? It's surprisingly very large.
They also need to be regularly inspected like bridges and overpasses. It is my understanding that it is a state by state thing as to whether inspections are legally required and I am not positive if Florida requires inspections, but I feel pretty safe in saying that liability conscious Disney would do them regardless.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
IMO garages should be designed as a very long term solution and built so that they can be built on top of. Perhaps hotels or restaurants etc.
That is not always practical.

Many foundation and column types follow a rather prescriptive pattern (for A-B kips use this, B-C use that) which often leaves some headroom for future expansion, but there is a limit.

Quite often, designing for possible future expansion can really blow a budget out of the water. This is sometimes acceptable if future expansion is a near certainty, but it can be a much harder sell if it is not.
 

Cesar R M

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When both lands are open, guest accessible areas will be on a par with what was available when LMA was still open.

At least the two SWL attractions will have huge queues. Plenty of room to stand around.
Isnt it annoying? I mean the new attractions seems to have monstrously big queues.. yet so little show time.
I just hope they put a lot of detail on the queue.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
Remember 20-minute rides? Remember spending most of your day at Epcot physically on rides, not in queues, drinking, or eating $10 pretzels?
Those were the days. The problem is it seems like the lion share of the general public has very little interest in that anymore. Seems like all they want is to be spun around with their hair on fire for 3 minutes. About the only way you can fit in a story is in the 30 minute wait for the aforementioned spinning hair on fire attraction.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Those were the days. The problem is it seems like the lion share of the general public has very little interest in that anymore. Seems like all they want is to be spun around with their hair on fire for 3 minutes. About the only way you can fit in a story is in the 30 minute wait for the aforementioned spinning hair on fire attraction.
It's sad that we can't focus on a 20-minute ride but we will gladly wait in a 20-minute line for a $10 pretzel intended for 4 people and then walk around aimlessly for 30 minutes eating bite after repetitious bite.

Then wait in a 30-minute line for an $8 gas station beer.

And pay $100/day for this.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
It's sad that we can't focus on a 20-minute ride but we will gladly wait in a 20-minute line for a $10 pretzel intended for 4 people and then walk around aimlessly for 30 minutes eating bite after repetitious bite.

Then wait in a 30-minute line for an $8 gas station beer.

And pay $100/day for this.
What can I say...the masses tend to suck and I hate that they are the ones controlling the market.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Those were the days. The problem is it seems like the lion share of the general public has very little interest in that anymore. Seems like all they want is to be spun around with their hair on fire for 3 minutes. About the only way you can fit in a story is in the 30 minute wait for the aforementioned spinning hair on fire attraction.
I think the general public have been acclimatised into expecting a short ride.
 

Goofyernmost

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I think the general public have been acclimatised into expecting a short ride.
Probably right, but, in all fairness almost no one was timing anything back when they were longer. Disney did tell us how we didn't want a long ride so, there it is. Not unlike when the cereal companies told us about the massive number of people that complained about having to much cereal in the box. Right! Disney probably were basing it on the World of Energy, which was a painfully long infomercial for Exxon when it first started. All I ever remember doing, generally, was getting on the ride and getting off at the end without any real consciousness of how long it actually was.
 

Master Yoda

Pro Star Wars geek.
Premium Member
I think the general public have been acclimatised into expecting a short ride.
It is a chicken and the egg question.

Do we expect shorter rides because that is what we are given or do they make shorter rides because that is what we said we wanted?

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. As a whole, I think a good deal of the public wanted thrill rides over omniovers and the like. Thrill rides are by their very nature rather short. The ride length of the thrill rides has unfortunately spread over to the less thrilling attractions, hence we have a sub 10 minute boat ride.
 

Goofyernmost

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Universe of Energy probably did test the limits of rider's patience. I mean, I loved it. But I can see why some people felt like they were trapped and thought they'd be out and about by now.
The main problem I had with it was that I was going to it around the time of the Valdez. I'm not a tree hugger, but, the pompous message in that show about how thankful we should be that Exxon was here for us was more then my mind could process. Before Valdez, it was just a long, boring show. After it was a hypocritical mess of contradicting realities. Ellen was a breath of fresh air. Funny, informative and anything but self serving. If it goes I will miss it, but, if they replace it with something really good that is maybe a little shorter, I'd be OK with it. It can be shorter too. All they have to do is have fewer stops where we have to wait for 6 show cars to move from room to room. Or something new and fast moving in each room. Dino's well, we have those in DAK.
 
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HauntedMansionFLA

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The main problem I had with it was that I was going to it around the time of the Valdez. I'm not a tree hugger, but, the pompous message in that show about how thankful we should be the Exxon was here for us was more then my mind could process. Before Valdez, it was just a long, boring show. After it was a hypocritical mess of contradicting realities. Ellen was a breath of fresh air. Funny, informative and anything but self serving. If it goes I will miss it, but, if they replace it with something really good that is maybe a little shorter, I'd be OK with it. It can be shorter too. All they have to do is have fewer stops where we have to wait for 6 show cars to move from room to room. Or something new and fast moving in each room. Dino's well, we have those in DAK.
We rode Ellen this past December and enjoyed it despite what people had said. Yes it's outdated but could be top notch with a proper investment.
 

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