Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

[Mike S]

DON'T EAT THE MEMBERRIES!

But they're sooooooooooo goooooood...

 

[marni1971]

We rode Ellen this past December and enjoyed it despite what people had said. Yes it's outdated but could be top notch with a proper investment.

The ride and show system is certainly in a real mess. There's so much broken. Proper investment could do wonders to it but it seems sadly they want to take another route.

 

[Earl Sweatpants]

The ride and show system is certainly in a real mess. There's so much broken. Proper investment could do wonders to it but it seems sadly they want to take another route.

Proper investment, yes...popping open the box of IP bandaids, no.

 

[BrianLo]

I feel like you guys will want to see this as well.

Via @SSG taken by MintCrocodile.

Edit: It's for Disneyland in case that isn't clear. But the same layout applies.

 

[marni1971]

I feel like you guys will want to see this as well.

Via @SSG taken by MintCrocodile.

Edit: It's for Disneyland in case that isn't clear. But the same layout applies.

That's more like it. The Miceage map that came out a few months ago that showed several differences was slightly wrong.

Building wise this is a verbatim copy of DHS. And vice versa!

 

[Cosmic Commando]

The main problem I had with it was that I was going to it around the time of the Valdez. I'm not a tree hugger, but, the pompous message in that show about how thankful we should be the Exxon was here for us was more then my mind could process. Before Valdez, it was just a long, boring show. After it was a hypocritical mess of contradicting realities. Ellen was a breath of fresh air. Funny, informative and anything but self serving. If it goes I will miss it, but, if they replace it with something really good that is maybe a little shorter, I'd be OK with it. It can be shorter too. All they have to do is have fewer stops where we have to wait for 6 show cars to move from room to room. Or something new and fast moving in each room. Dino's well, we have those in DAK.

We were there while Deepwater Horizon was spewing. It was slightly awkward to hear them talk about how cool underwater drilling was while there was an environmental disaster happening a few hundred miles away.

 

[Cesar R M]

I feel like you guys will want to see this as well.

Via @SSG taken by MintCrocodile.

Edit: It's for Disneyland in case that isn't clear. But the same layout applies.

so much for "confidential" D:

 

[Cesar R M]

We were there while Deepwater Horizon was spewing. It was slightly awkward to hear them talk about how cool underwater drilling was while there was an environmental disaster happening a few hundred miles away.

I dont think the problem was drilling itself. Just a big corporation being ultra greedy, skimming security, basic needs.. leaving a huge machinery system (deep water horizon) running with a lot of its basic necessities falling apart), refusing to check systems and safety standards.

Almost every single accident in history has been similar. (even the fukushina plants, because these were supposedly to be decommissioned months before the quake)

 

[doctornick]

Remember 20-minute rides? Remember spending most of your day at Epcot physically on rides, not in queues, drinking, or eating $10 pretzels?

I think there's a sweet spot around maybe 10-14 minutes that is long enough to be truly engaging but not too long to drag and get boring (or be so long as to "make sure you pee" before you get on). I do think that Disney is doing guests a disservice by having shorter rides, but there's a reasonable argument that some of those Epcot type rides were "too long" especially on repeat visits. (I also think that the classic FW rides suffered by being too similar to each other overall and feels someone repetitive throughout a day, but that's a whole another can of worms

I also think being dismissive of quality queues is unfortunate. A great queue leading up to an attraction enhances it significantly. It's one of the things that I enjoy about Disney parks in general (and has obviously found its way into other parks like Uni). You don't want to have a queue that is "too good" for the ride (common complain to Little Mermaid here) but an outstanding queue that compliments the ride (MK's POTC, DHS' ToT, Everest, etc.) is a great thing to have.

Now back to your regularly schedules talk of Star Wars.... Now with new images!

 

[Goofyernmost]

I think there's a sweet spot around maybe 10-14 minutes that is long enough to be truly engaging but not too long to drag and get boring (or be so long as to "make sure you pee" before you get on). I do think that Disney is doing guests a disservice by having shorter rides, but there's a reasonable argument that some of those Epcot type rides were "too long" especially on repeat visits. (I also think that the classic FW rides suffered by being too similar to each other overall and feels someone repetitive throughout a day, but that's a whole another can of worms

I also think being dismissive of quality queues is unfortunate. A great queue leading up to an attraction enhances it significantly. It's one of the things that I enjoy about Disney parks in general (and has obviously found its way into other parks like Uni). You don't want to have a queue that is "too good" for the ride (common complain to Little Mermaid here) but an outstanding queue that compliments the ride (MK's POTC, DHS' ToT, Everest, etc.) is a great thing to have.

Now back to your regularly schedules talk of Star Wars.... Now with new images!

The four major queues in EPCOT were not detailed story telling they were all basic switchback systems. That was true for SSE, Horizons, WoM and Imagination. If you wanted you could include Living with the Land, in that as well as the ride in Norway and Mexico. Peter Pan and Toad was a switchback as was, Small World and many others. We are living under an incorrect image that all of the queues had a themed setting. 20K, was another major switchback that had minor theming as you got closer, but the rest was out in the Florida sunshine for what seemed like days. It seems to me that todays queues are far better themed then things were "back in the day".

 

[doctornick]

The four major queues in EPCOT were not detailed story telling they were all basic switchback systems. That was true for SSE, Horizons, WoM and Imagination. If you wanted you could include Living with the Land, in that as well as the ride in Norway and Mexico. Peter Pan and Toad was a switchback as was, Small World and many others. We are living under an incorrect image that all of the queues had a themed setting. 20K, was another major switchback that had minor theming as you got closer, but the rest was out in the Florida sunshine for what seemed like days. It seems to me that todays queues are far better themed then things were "back in the day".

Agreed. That I think this is actually one of the detriments of classic Epcot and it is surprising given how much care was given to the development of the park. Perhaps because they were largely high capacity rides and it was pre-FP, they didn't feel any need to invest in the queues as people wouldn't be expected to be in them very long. That being said, they did put a lot of effort into the pre-shows.

As they redevelop the park, I do hope that having better queues is part of the work. It shouldn't take precedent over the quality of the rides, but is a good component of the overall experience.

(Sorry to continue the off topic talk).

 

[Goofyernmost]

Agreed. That I think this is actually one of the detriments of classic Epcot and it is surprising given how much care was given to the development of the park. Perhaps because they were largely high capacity rides and it was pre-FP, they didn't feel any need to invest in the queues as people wouldn't be expected to be in them very long. That being said, they did put a lot of effort into the pre-shows.

As they redevelop the park, I do hope that having better queues is part of the work. It shouldn't take precedent over the quality of the rides, but is a good component of the overall experience.

(Sorry to continue the off topic talk).

Well, there hasn't been much on topic to talk about.

 

[roj2323]

I feel like you guys will want to see this as well.

Via @SSG taken by MintCrocodile.

Edit: It's for Disneyland in case that isn't clear. But the same layout applies.

Here's a line drawing if someone wants to overlay it on top of the recent construction photos. I'd do it but I've procrastinated on work enough today.

 

[djkidkaz]

I feel like you guys will want to see this as well.

Via @SSG taken by MintCrocodile.

Edit: It's for Disneyland in case that isn't clear. But the same layout applies.

Not even sure what I'm looking at. Can't make out any of the words or anything. It's 2017 and everyone has an iPhone with a 2 billion megapixel watt camera that takes crystal clear photos. Everyone except the one guy who happens to be sneaking around taking confidential photos with his 1990's Motorola Razor flip phone.

 

[Master Yoda]

Not even sure what I'm looking at. Can't make out any of the words or anything. It's 2017 and everyone has an iPhone with a 2 billion megapixel watt camera that takes crystal clear photos. Everyone except the one guy who happens to be sneaking around taking confidential photos with his 1990's Motorola Razor flip phone.

His full time job must be as a bigfoot and/or UFO hunter.

 

[Travel Junkie]

Not even sure what I'm looking at. Can't make out any of the words or anything. It's 2017 and everyone has an iPhone with a 2 billion megapixel watt camera that takes crystal clear photos. Everyone except the one guy who happens to be sneaking around taking confidential photos with his 1990's Motorola Razor flip phone.

The picture was taken from here with a DSLR and a telephoto lens.

See if you iPhone would do any better.

 

[G00fyDad]

 

[FigmentJedi]

Not even sure what I'm looking at. Can't make out any of the words or anything. It's 2017 and everyone has an iPhone with a 2 billion megapixel watt camera that takes crystal clear photos. Everyone except the one guy who happens to be sneaking around taking confidential photos with his 1990's Motorola Razor flip phone.

The yellow is the new River Bend and you can see the train track running through it. Orange is the dining/shopping, Green is the Escape Ride and Purple is the Falcon.

Pretty easy when you've been seeing that MiceChat map going around for well over a year now.

 

[MrHappy]

I expect both queues to be a very high standard.

It's great queues are being addressed with such detail and storytelling. Do you have any insights as to the feedback of the Dumbo queue? I like the concept - anything is better than standing in one place waiting in line (I realize the irony that you need to wait in a line to avoid waiting in a line). Would they apply this type of 'buzzer-system-when-it's-your-turn-sorta-concept' to any of the new attractions? Here for SW or TSL or Pandora?

 

[marni1971]

It's great queues are being addressed with such detail and storytelling. Do you have any insights as to the feedback of the Dumbo queue? I like the concept - anything is better than standing in one place waiting in line (I realize the irony that you need to wait in a line to avoid waiting in a line). Would they apply this type of 'buzzer-system-when-it's-your-turn-sorta-concept' to any of the new attractions? Here for SW or TSL or Pandora?

Not that I'm aware of though it may be considered for the battle attraction.