Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

[HauntedMansionFLA]

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Kinda but I can't get any definitive info that, and it is a big IF that SWL is located in the back that ST would be counted as a third ride of a SWL it would be outside of the land.

There is more but I feel uncomfortable with saying some stuff at this moment in time.

seems like it would make sense to build toward the front of what is closed down and work your way back toward LMA.

 

[dreamscometrue]

There is more but I feel uncomfortable with saying some stuff at this moment in time.

You don't have to say anything...just post concept art.

 

[danlb_2000]

It will have 3 the 11 acres to also include TSMM



Nah, there is one thing that could possibly mean that SWL is going to the back one little thing, and no its not on a construction wall in the back of DHS. It depends what part of the front location you mean - Echo Lake 0% if it is an attraction and part of parking lot then yeah 95%.

Considering they just started surveying SoA does that not strike you as odd....

There could be any number of reasons that survey crews were on SoA, and we don't no that they "just started" surveying, it may have just been the first time someone noticed and posted about it.

 

[doctornick]

I'm sorry, I'm just not buying the Star Wars to the SoA area idea. Given the permits that have come out, it makes a lot of logical sense to have the SoA area being staging for TSL and SWL and then using that (large) area for Stage 3.

The big issue with the Echo Lake area is the need to close Indy before starting construction. I think Disney will just bite the bullet for that, add a daytime show to Fantasmic and/or the Flex Theater (and maybe some more M&Gs around to compensate and try to get TSL open ASAP.

 

[doctornick]

Also, though I highly doubt it.... if Star Wars Land were going to be built next to TSL, does it perhaps raise the possibility of two separate Star Wars areas? @marni1971 mentioned at one point something about some additional SW plans and adding a ton of Star Wars does seem like something Disney would do. I've mentioned before, but one thing that could make sense is putting the 14 acre D23 announced SW area in the LMA space and building a smaller area around Star Tours -- this would allow the one land to be set in the new trilogy era and the Star Tours area to be set at the time of the original trilogy (which would go along with that ride).

 

[danlb_2000]

I'm sorry, I'm just not buying the Star Wars to the SoA area idea. Given the permits that have come out, it makes a lot of logical sense to have the SoA area being staging for TSL and SWL and then using that (large) area for Stage 3.

The big issue with the Echo Lake area is the need to close Indy before starting construction. I think Disney will just bite the bullet for that, add a daytime show to Fantasmic and/or the Flex Theater (and maybe some more M&Gs around to compensate and try to get TSL open ASAP.

If Star Wars Land was going in the LMA area, I would also wonder why they didn't put concept art for it on the walls like they did with TSL.

 

[alissafalco]

I know I'm late to this thread, but can someone just give me the cliffs notes? Why are people questioning that SW land wont go where the LMA was?

 

[mleeeman]

If SWL was in the back by LMA/SOA whats to say that Star Tours couldn't be rethemed to GOTG. You know they want to shove all the IP they can into the parks.

 

[WDWLover#1]

If SWL was in the back by LMA/SOA whats to say that Star Tours couldn't be rethemed to GOTG. You know they want to shove all the IP they can into the parks.

I think they've got limited time with the Guardians. The language in the universal marvel agreement states that the avengers are part of their deal. When in 2018/19 the infinity war movie happens, it's likely the guardians will be likely part of it because of the infinity stones plot. Once they technically join the avengers, universal could argue that Disney can't use those characters in WDW. I think that is the reasoning behind that rumoured tot gotg takeover. They can't build them a new attraction, since it would have to close so soon.

 

[danlb_2000]

I know I'm late to this thread, but can someone just give me the cliffs notes? Why are people questioning that SW land wont go where the LMA was?

Because a number of insiders have said they are still hearing that it will go in the front of the park near Indy. The Indy area makes sense because it would put it right next to Star Tours and would also allow the back part of the park to be used as a staging area for all the upcoming construction projects. Once SWL, TSL, the new entrance, parking etc is done, that land could then be repurposed into a new land.

 

[danlb_2000]

I think they've got limited time with the Guardians. The language in the universal marvel agreement states that the avengers are part of their deal. When in 2018/19 the infinity war movie happens, it's likely the guardians will be likely part of it because of the infinity stones plot. Once they technically join the avengers, universal could argue that Disney can't use those characters in WDW. I think that is the reasoning behind that rumoured tot gotg takeover. They can't build them a new attraction, since it would have to close so soon.

The language in the contract is not completely clear on this. This has been discussed over in the Marvel coming to WDW thread.

 

[Magenta Panther]

I think they've got limited time with the Guardians. The language in the universal marvel agreement states that the avengers are part of their deal. When in 2018/19 the infinity war movie happens, it's likely the guardians will be likely part of it because of the infinity stones plot. Once they technically join the avengers, universal could argue that Disney can't use those characters in WDW. I think that is the reasoning behind that rumoured tot gotg takeover. They can't build them a new attraction, since it would have to close so soon.

Then I wonder what the payoff is to putting an overlay (i.e. desecration) on the Tower if they'll have to remove it so quickly anyway. I swear, I feel sorry for the Imagineers who have to deal with the twits who are coming up with these "ideas". Marketing has taken over the parks to the point of insanity.

 

[BrianLo]

If Star Wars Land was going in the LMA area, I would also wonder why they didn't put concept art for it on the walls like they did with TSL.

There is no concept art up in DL either.

The only reason Star Wars Land would go in Indy/the parking lots would be to keep Star Tours included in the land. Originally when Carsland was for SOA, Toy Story was to be completed before construction on Star Wars occurred. From an operational/capacity standpoint that made sense. When Carsland slid to phase three (and stopped being Carsland) and the mandate to get Star Wars finished sooner occurred, it made no operational sense to close all of SOA simply for construction staging.

If they got over connecting Star Tours (which really doesn't thematically gel all that well with the new land) there is no reason to place the land where we were orginally told.

The operational, logistical, statements from Disney (builds to start in April) and blatant inclusion of Star Wars land at the edge of the Toy story concept art strongly point to plans having been changed.

 

[Next Big Thing]

If Star Wars Land was going in the LMA area, I would also wonder why they didn't put concept art for it on the walls like they did with TSL.

Toy Story Land is opening first and much sooner, which also plays a role. You don't post concept art in-park for something that may not open for 4 (possibly 5?) years. Hell, Avatar didn't even get anything on it's wall until last summer.

 

[Brian Swan]

I know I'm late to this thread, but can someone just give me the cliffs notes? Why are people questioning that SW land wont go where the LMA was?

Cliff Notes Version: For quite some time several of our insiders have said that they were very confident that SWL would be in the area now occupied by the Indy show and extend to ST and into the parking lot, so that has become the "accepted" location. Some of the recent demolition and concept art is making some people question this and think it might be going into the LMA area. With no official announcement from Disney, it is all speculation. Personally, I think the Echo Lake area makes the most sense, and it's the one I'm going with until there is better evidence to suggest something different.

 

[captainmoch]

I'm still hoping it goes in Echo Lake. Yeah, they're going to have to close Indy, BUT if they can get a daytime show in Fantasmic running to immediately replace it, it wouldn't be a huge problem. A bigger problem may be the parking structures. Those may delay the process significantly if they go with the Echo Lake location.

 

[doctornick]

I'm still hoping it goes in Echo Lake. Yeah, they're going to have to close Indy, BUT if they can get a daytime show in Fantasmic running to immediately replace it, it wouldn't be a huge problem. A bigger problem may be the parking structures. Those may delay the process significantly if they go with the Echo Lake location.

I don't think the parking would necessarily be the issue -- the parking lot in question is CM parking, so if they absolutely needed to, they could have cast park at a remote location (e.g. Epcot) and bus them over. It's been done before.

That said, I'm surprised that there hasn't been more movement on the parking situation yet.

 

[OldBlueEyes]

I took the liberty of comparing the concept artwork for the 2 lands. I know the controversy of concept versus end-result, but there always (in my opinion, ref. my Feb 10 post in Avatar construction progress) seem to be quite a lot "in there" (as discussed somewhere earlier in one of the many DHS-treads).
Sooo, I'm not trying to prove anything, just trying to look into the evidence at hand. Here are the right-hand end of SWL's concept and the left-hand side of the newest TSL's concept art:

Any resemblance in there or something different (in the TSL side)?
OBE

 

[twebber55]

looks like star wars to me

 

[SCOTLORR]

just saw this article on ... http://.com/blog/2016/04/concept-ar...-land-scenes-removed-from-slinky-dog-coaster/

this writer seems to have confirmation that SWL is indeed going in the LMA/backlot tour area. Towards the end of the article, they show a zoomed in picture of the brown trees hinting at SWL, and say "Just beyond the borders of Toy Story Land is the heavily wooded new planet of Star Wars land. A tunnel will transport guests between the two realms." Can anyone else confirm this?