Star Tours 2: Official confirmation - kinda

SirGoofy

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Maybe this will be answered in the upcoming tv series? I can see some Jedi who survived Order 66 discovering the Death Star plans and attempting raids on it. That would certainly slow down progress.

Kyle Katarn discovers the first Death Star plans.
 

Maerj

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Kyle Katarn discovers the first Death Star plans.

Yeah but the tv series *could* show a rogue Jedi coming upon the Death Star and attempting to destroy it and coming to his own demise at the same time. This is of course only conjecture on my part but its what I thought would happen since they made it a point in Ep 3 that there were surviviors and to set up that message telling them not to return to the Jedi Temple.
 

CaptainMichael

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I'm rewatching Attack of the Clones on Spike right now. It really is an awful movie...terrible.

Watched Phantom Menace last night fastforwarding through most of the stuff on Tatooine. Not too bad.
 

The Conundrum

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I'm rewatching Attack of the Clones on Spike right now. It really is an awful movie...terrible.

Watched Phantom Menace last night fastforwarding through most of the stuff on Tatooine. Not too bad.

The worst offense in Attack is when anakin levitates a CGI peach to padme, she bites down and then 2 seconds later a chunk of the peache disappears.

It was at that moment I lost all confidence that Star Tours 2 would be good.
 

FigmentJedi

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Has Disney made an offical announcement about this? If not, I don't believe anything.
The new edition of Haunted Mansion: From the Magic Kingdom to the Movies lists Star Tours 2.0 as one of the projects the author worked on/is working on. Cat's basically out of the bag.
 

CaptainMichael

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Don't get me started on Lloyd....

Or ANY of Anakin...He should have been portrayed in a VERY different way.

No doubt about it. It's really hard to believe he became Darth Vader, but I can understand how the character was supposed to become that person...just bad acting and bad direction. The clues and story were there ironically enough. Just terrible dialogue and delivery of terrible dialouge. Portman looked ridiculous in some of those costumes too, and her delivery was pretty bad (the hottness overrode that though.)

For me Phantom wins outta the two if nothing else for the lightsaber duel between Maul and Obi-Wan and Qui Gon. Maul was definitely more intriguing than Tyrannus.
 

lebeau

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I've been watching some of the prequels on Spike this week. I've been genuinely surprised by just how bad they are. I mean, I remember not liking them when they came out. But the parts I thought were cool are much shorter than I remember. The bad stuff just goes on and on. And the effects that wowed me 10 years ago look dated now. Unfortunately, without the visual "wow" factor, the visual effects don't have much to offer.

I'll give Clone Wars a slight edge over Phantom Menace just because Jar Jar's role was greatly diminished. Even so, it still managed to stink. And those attempts at romantic scenes are the worst Star Wars dialogue and activng ever. (And this series doesn't set the bar real high for dialogue or acting!)
 

HMF

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Don't get me started on Lloyd....

Or ANY of Anakin...He should have been portrayed in a VERY different way.
I was not aware your name was George Lucas.:lookaroun Maybe I am blinded because Im' a Fanboy but I really don't see the problems everyones talking about. OK' I will admit Jake Lloyd's Anakin can be annoying at times.
 

imagineer boy

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While I'm a defender of the prequals, I will agree that Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christansen's performances definately weren't good at all. Still, I've seen worse though.
 

CaptainMichael

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I was not aware your name was George Lucas.:lookaroun Maybe I am blinded because Im' a Fanboy but I really don't see the problems everyones talking about. OK' I will admit Jake Lloyd's Anakin can be annoying at times.

But it was (for me at least) forgiveable because he was 10ish, but in AotC he's around 20 and has been training as a Jedi for 10 years. There should be alot of maturity.

Also, a 10 year old actor relies ALOT on direction. That fault lies with Lucas.

As for Jar Jar, the Gungans are some of the better creatures introduced in the prequels, but Jar Jar himself was a complete disaster with few redeeming scenes.
 

The Conundrum

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I was not aware your name was George Lucas.:lookaroun Maybe I am blinded because Im' a Fanboy but I really don't see the problems everyones talking about. OK' I will admit Jake Lloyd's Anakin can be annoying at times.

"You look beautiful"
"It is only because I am so in love"
"No, it is because I am so in love with you"

compare that to Han/Leia's dialogue in the OT and theres really no comparision. Lucas was doing it for the money grab and advance his digital effects he didn't put any effort into the prequels and it shows and thats why they blow.

Also that scene in Episode 3 where yoda force pushes Palpatine and he trips over his chair and you see his two skinny legs hang up was cringe worthy. Its embarassing to even watch.

Whats worse is Lucas sticking his hands in the EU now and saying that Anakin had not only one but TWO apprentices (Asoka and Starkiller) They don't even make sense in any continuity and in the case of Asoka I thought the whole thing was they don't want to grant Anakin the rank of master because he wasn't competent enough yet but suddenly hes training cadets??

oh yea and "yousa in big DODO this time!" yea what a great Star Wars movie *pounds head against desk*
 

lebeau

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But it was (for me at least) forgiveable because he was 10ish, but in AotC he's around 20 and has been training as a Jedi for 10 years. There should be alot of maturity.

Also, a 10 year old actor relies ALOT on direction. That fault lies with Lucas.

As for Jar Jar, the Gungans are some of the better creatures introduced in the prequels, but Jar Jar himself was a complete disaster with few redeeming scenes.

The fault with everything that is wrong with the prequels ultimately lies with Lucas. As a director, Lucas is notoriously bad with actors. He' very concerned with the special effects and most of his direction relates to that. (After Episode One, Terrance Stamp said how glad he was to never have to go through that experience again.)

I actually think Lucas' technique gets bad performances out of good actors. When has Natalie Portman ever given a bad performance outside of Star Wars? Never. Heck, Hayden Christiansen's been good in other stuff. The fact that Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor managed to deliver just shows how good they are!
 

lebeau

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"You look beautiful"
"It is only because I am so in love"
"No, it is because I am so in love with you"

compare that to Han/Leia's dialogue in the OT and theres really no comparision. Lucas was doing it for the money grab and advance his digital effects he didn't put any effort into the prequels and it shows and thats why they blow.

Also that scene in Episode 3 where yoda force pushes Palpatine and he trips over his chair and you see his two skinny legs hang up was cringe worthy. Its embarassing to even watch.

Whats worse is Lucas sticking his hands in the EU now and saying that Anakin had not only one but TWO apprentices (Asoka and Starkiller) They don't even make sense in any continuity and in the case of Asoka I thought the whole thing was they don't want to grant Anakin the rank of master because he wasn't competent enough yet but suddenly hes training cadets??

Well, the original trilogy had the benefit of having scripts by Lawrence Kasdan (at least for Empire and Jedi).

When Lucas started writing the prequels, he approached Kasdan about writing. Kasdan had moved on to become a successful director in his own right and decided to take a pass. He told Lucas that the story was obviously too personal to him and that he should write it himself.

Bad call, Lawrence. Bad call.
 

The Conundrum

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The fault with everything that is wrong with the prequels ultimately lies with Lucas. As a director, Lucas is notoriously bad with actors. He' very concerned with the special effects and most of his direction relates to that. (After Episode One, Terrance Stamp said how glad he was to never have to go through that experience again.)

I actually think Lucas' technique gets bad performances out of good actors. When has Natalie Portman ever given a bad performance outside of Star Wars? Never. Heck, Hayden Christiansen's been good in other stuff. The fact that Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor managed to deliver just shows how good they are!

This is lies. THX 1138, Star Wars, American Graffeti, and Return of the jedi were all directed by Lucas and all had decent to good acting. He just didn't really put much effort into the prequels thats all there is to it plus Mccallum was a horrible producer.
 

lebeau

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This is lies. THX 1138, Star Wars, American Graffeti, and Return of the jedi were all directed by Lucas and all had decent to good acting. He just didn't really put much effort into the prequels thats all there is to it plus Mccallum was a horrible producer.

Richard Marquand may be surprised to find out he didn't direct Return of the Jedi ;)

Star Wars had it's share of bad acting. Mark Hamill was the Hayden Christiansen of his day. And Carrie Fisher had an English accent whenever she was in a scene with a brit.

American Grafetti - okay - but look at the cast!

Like I said, Neeson and McGregor were good in the prequels. It's not like everyone directed by Lucas automatically sucks. But don't expect him to make a bad actor good. If anything, he can do the opposite.
 

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