Star Tours 2: Official confirmation - kinda

[scottnj1966]

Just got delivery of the new 40th anniversery edition of The Haunted Mansion: From the Magic Kingdom to the movies by Jason Surrell.

This book is published by Disney and in the section about the author it says: "Jason Surrell is an author, screenwriter, and senior show writer for Walt Disney Entertainment and Walt Disney Imagineering. His credits include the re-imagined Star Tours; ..."

My guess is that they would have expected an anouncement before the book was published. What do you think?

That would not be an official in any sense of the word.
But someday they will have to update the ride.
Hopefully soon. I would have expected it during the time he released the last three movies.

 

[1disneydood]

Meesa hated the prequels. A felt a disturbance in the force... as if a million fans cried out in terror and were suddenly dissapointed.

 

[HMF]

Meesa hated the prequels. A felt a disturbance in the force... as if a million fans cried out in terror and were suddenly dissapointed.

This thread is about Star Tours' Not Prequel bashing.

 

[SirGoofy]

Whats worse is Lucas sticking his hands in the EU now and saying that Anakin had not only one but TWO apprentices (Asoka and Starkiller) They don't even make sense in any continuity and in the case of Asoka I thought the whole thing was they don't want to grant Anakin the rank of master because he wasn't competent enough yet but suddenly hes training cadets??

Knights could train as well.:wave:

And I'm perfectly fine with Starkiller. I thought it was very cool.

This thread is about Star Tours' Not Prequel bashing.

It's always time for prequel bashing.:drevil:

 

[Maerj]

. And Carrie Fisher had an English accent whenever she was in a scene with a brit.

Nat Portman had an accent as well whenever she was in the Senate or when she was playing the role of a government official. There was an explanation for that somewhere, its apparently a traditional way of speaking for officials

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

"you underestimate MY power!"

Eww. :dazzle:

No doubt about it. It's really hard to believe he became Darth Vader, but I can understand how the character was supposed to become that person...just bad acting and bad direction. The clues and story were there ironically enough. Just terrible dialogue and delivery of terrible dialouge. Portman looked ridiculous in some of those costumes too, and her delivery was pretty bad (the hottness overrode that though.)

For me Phantom wins outta the two if nothing else for the lightsaber duel between Maul and Obi-Wan and Qui Gon. Maul was definitely more intriguing than Tyrannus.

Yoda. Fights.


That was it, for me. Loved that.

I was not aware your name was George Lucas.:lookaroun Maybe I am blinded because Im' a Fanboy but I really don't see the problems everyones talking about. OK' I will admit Jake Lloyd's Anakin can be annoying at times.

I think you are....and either way, it's opinion.:lol:

Nat Portman had an accent as well whenever she was in the Senate or when she was playing the role of a government official. There was an explanation for that somewhere, its apparently a traditional way of speaking for officials

Yep....It's cannon, per one of the many (too many) Star Wars books I have.:lol:

 

[SirGoofy]

Yoda. Fights.


That was it, for me. Loved that.

Yea, but he fights a 90 year old man*. And loses.

Lame.

*I know the force makes one stronger yadda, yadda, yadda, but Christopher Lee could not pull off Lightsaber duelist if he was hopped up on meth.

EDIT: Just another reason why Darth Maul's death was COMPLETELY pointless. I'm going to go off on another rant here on another reason why the prequels stink. They make ever bad guy who has any potential to be awesome either a pansy or die with very little screen time.

Darth Maul: Dies.

Jango Fett: Oh no way! Boba Fett's father! He's gonna be completely BA! Nope, gets his head cut off and goes out like an itch.

Grevious: Whoa cool! He's got 4 arms and lightsabers, there's no way he'll end up like Jango. Oh, he's some wheezing, monologuing, poor excuse for a Green Lantern villain bad guy.

 

[The Conundrum]

Eww. :dazzle:

Yoda. Fights.


That was it, for me. Loved that.

That scene was way too goofy though.

 

[imagineer boy]

EDIT: Just another reason why Darth Maul's death was COMPLETELY pointless. I'm going to go off on another rant here on another reason why the prequels stink. They make ever bad guy who has any potential to be awesome either a pansy or die with very little screen time.

Darth Maul: Dies.

Jango Fett: Oh no way! Boba Fett's father! He's gonna be completely BA! Nope, gets his head cut off and goes out like an itch.

Grevious: Whoa cool! He's got 4 arms and lightsabers, there's no way he'll end up like Jango. Oh, he's some wheezing, monologuing, poor excuse for a Green Lantern villain bad guy.

You know, its not like the Star Wars characters were adapted from a comic or book series then these complaints would be understandable. But since they're completely Lucas' crations with their fates in his hands, I don't really see the point. :shrug:

 

[lebeau]

That scene was way too goofy though.

It was so goofy it wore a green hat. (Sorry, that was bad!)

The sad part is that as bad as that scene was, it was a highlight of the movie.

 

[lebeau]

Nat Portman had an accent as well whenever she was in the Senate or when she was playing the role of a government official. There was an explanation for that somewhere, its apparently a traditional way of speaking for officials

Well, Fisher admitted she did it because she had just finished studying acting in England and slipped in and out of a faux brit accent whenever she was around them. If someone actually bothered trying to explain that away in a book, well, that just makes me sad.

 

[SirGoofy]

You know, its not like the Star Wars characters were adapted from a comic or book series then these complaints would be understandable. But since they're completely Lucas' crations with their fates in his hands, I don't really see the point. :shrug:

Yea, sure artistic rights and all that, but the man has no idea how to make a great, lasting characters anymore.

 

[Studios Fan]

Yea, but he fights a 90 year old man*. And loses.

Lame.

*I know the force makes one stronger yadda, yadda, yadda, but Christopher Lee could not pull off Lightsaber duelist if he was hopped up on meth.

EDIT: Just another reason why Darth Maul's death was COMPLETELY pointless. I'm going to go off on another rant here on another reason why the prequels stink. They make ever bad guy who has any potential to be awesome either a pansy or die with very little screen time.

Darth Maul: Dies.

Jango Fett: Oh no way! Boba Fett's father! He's gonna be completely BA! Nope, gets his head cut off and goes out like an itch.

Grevious: Whoa cool! He's got 4 arms and lightsabers, there's no way he'll end up like Jango. Oh, he's some wheezing, monologuing, poor excuse for a Green Lantern villain bad guy.

I agree about the killing of the villains. I really liked Dooku though.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Yea, but he fights a 90 year old man*. And loses.

Lame.

*I know the force makes one stronger yadda, yadda, yadda, but Christopher Lee could not pull off Lightsaber duelist if he was hopped up on meth.

EDIT: Just another reason why Darth Maul's death was COMPLETELY pointless. I'm going to go off on another rant here on another reason why the prequels stink. They make ever bad guy who has any potential to be awesome either a pansy or die with very little screen time.

Darth Maul: Dies.

Jango Fett: Oh no way! Boba Fett's father! He's gonna be completely BA! Nope, gets his head cut off and goes out like an itch.

Grevious: Whoa cool! He's got 4 arms and lightsabers, there's no way he'll end up like Jango. Oh, he's some wheezing, monologuing, poor excuse for a Green Lantern villain bad guy.

Agreed on the villains...Maul coulda stuck around.

That scene was way too goofy though.

I don't think so...

 

[The Conundrum]

You know what else confused me about the prequels and this was also a problem in Indiana Jones 4. We never really find out what the deal with Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku was.

At first it appears hes working for Darth Sidious as his apprentice but later in Attack of the Clones its suggested that he is seperating the Republic to create an army AGAINST Sidious. He even tells Obi-Wan the whole story*. Then at the end of Attack Dooku meets with Sidious and tells him everything is going as planned. But then in Episode 3 Dooku has an expression of genuine shock in his face when Palps tells annie (ugh) to kill him. But how can Dooku be shocked if he knew that A) there are always 2 siths no more no less and B)Palps wanted to turn Anakin over to the dark side.

Same problem in Indiana Jones 4 with that Mac guy. In the old Lucas films from the 80s it was always very clear who was a good guy, who was a bad guy, and if they were a double agent it was resolved within the story.



*(and yet Lucas tries to make it seem like a big shock that palpatine is the sith lord in Episode 3 even though everyone knows by the end of Episode 2)

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

You know what else confused me about the prequels and this was also a problem in Indiana Jones 4. We never really find out what the deal with Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku was.

At first it appears hes working for Darth Sidious as his apprentice but later in Attack of the Clones its suggested that he is seperating the Republic to create an army AGAINST Sidious. He even tells Obi-Wan the whole story*. Then at the end of Attack Dooku meets with Sidious and tells him everything is going as planned. But then in Episode 3 Dooku has an expression of genuine shock in his face when Palps tells annie (ugh) to kill him. But how can Dooku be shocked if he knew that A) there are always 2 siths no more no less and B)Palps wanted to turn Anakin over to the dark side.

Same problem in Indiana Jones 4 with that Mac guy. In the old Lucas films from the 80s it was always very clear who was a good guy, who was a bad guy, and if they were a double agent it was resolved within the story.



*(and yet Lucas tries to make it seem like a big shock that palpatine is the sith lord in Episode 3 even though everyone knows by the end of Episode 2)

Going in order of bolded...
That was a lie to get Obi on THEIR side. It failed.

It was, they had started the war, and almost killed two prominent Jedi. Anakin was also seen by Palp through Dooku at this point.

Dook didn't know that Palp wanted him dead...duh! :lol: That was part of Palp's bigger plan, that Dook had no part of. Palp knew he could manipulate Anakin from the encounters in EpII.
:wave:

 

[Maerj]

You know what else confused me about the prequels and this was also a problem in Indiana Jones 4. We never really find out what the deal with Darth Tyranus/Count Dooku was.

At first it appears hes working for Darth Sidious as his apprentice but later in Attack of the Clones its suggested that he is seperating the Republic to create an army AGAINST Sidious. He even tells Obi-Wan the whole story*. Then at the end of Attack Dooku meets with Sidious and tells him everything is going as planned. But then in Episode 3 Dooku has an expression of genuine shock in his face when Palps tells annie (ugh) to kill him. But how can Dooku be shocked if he knew that A) there are always 2 siths no more no less and B)Palps wanted to turn Anakin over to the dark side.

*(and yet Lucas tries to make it seem like a big shock that palpatine is the sith lord in Episode 3 even though everyone knows by the end of Episode 2)

The Sith are so evil that the apprentice always tries to kill the master. The master actually expects this to happen and is disappointed if his apprentice doesn't make some sort of effort to overthrow him. That is why there are only 2. In the past there were many Sith lords but they always would wind up fighting each other. I think the book said that Sidious was testing Anakin and that he wouldn't let Anakin kill him.

I don't think that it was intended to be a big shock (to us, the audience) that Palpatine is the Sith Lord, just to the people in the movie.

 

[CaptainMichael]

Yea, but he fights a 90 year old man*. And loses.

Lame.

*I know the force makes one stronger yadda, yadda, yadda, but Christopher Lee could not pull off Lightsaber duelist if he was hopped up on meth.

A 90 year old Sith apprentice at that...the character of Dooku should have stayed in Lucas' mind and never made it to paper much less the big screen. He is not a compelling Sith villain. The Sith in the EU are so much more awesomer...I haz a sad.

Also, CGI Yoda = Fail.

 

[The Conundrum]

A 90 year old Sith apprentice at that...the character of Dooku should have stayed in Lucas' mind and never made it to paper much less the big screen. He is not a compelling Sith villain. The Sith in the EU are so much more awesomer...I haz a sad.

Also, CGI Yoda = Fail.

Truth

But getting back to what Epcot Explorer said...why would it be a shock to Dooku that Palpatine would try to betray him? The Sith are known for betraying each other! Wouldn't he have seen it coming and had his own schemes?

 

[Maerj]

A 90 year old Sith apprentice at that...the character of Dooku should have stayed in Lucas' mind and never made it to paper much less the big screen. He is not a compelling Sith villain. The Sith in the EU are so much more awesomer...I haz a sad.

Also, CGI Yoda = Fail.

The 80 year old Sith Apprentice was played by Christopher Lee, who starred in many of the Hammer horror films in the 50s & 60s with Peter Cushing who played Grand Moff Tarkin in the first SW movie. I think he really just wanted to work with him which is why he came up with the character. If he couldn't have gotten Lee, he would have went with a much different character. Besides, its not like Palpatine or Yoda weren't exactly spring chickens either.