SPOILERS: The Mandalorian Season 2 Discussion

[LSLS]

Thank you. I wonder if it could possibly be a movie?

Am I the only one who thinks it’s strange to have these two shows streaming at the same time? Sidenote- We barely have time to watch The Mandalorian before seeing spoilers, I can’t imagine my family is unique in that.
Though just from a subscription standpoint, it would make more sense to split.. unless Disney doesn’t have subscribers who are canceling, which is a possibility too.

Well, if December is going to be their announcements for cost raises, I could see them dropping like boba on Tuesdays and Mando on Fridays to really try and justify it. Plus, keep in mind they have like 6 star wars shows coming. You have to think there is eventually going to be overlap. Have to think the same will happen with marvel as they start adding series. It does seem strange based on what they have done so far, but they have a lot of shows on the schedule.

 

[21stamps]

Perhaps...

But we have to ask if it makes sense to drop $150,000,000 plus on a production budget anymore? For a stream movie?

You cut out the middle man costs...but you can’t charge $16 a click to view...

There are no right answers...we’ll have to see

I don’t see the budget of a Disney+ movie or series really being much of a difference.
HBO has done it for years.

 

[21stamps]

Well, if December is going to be their announcements for cost raises, I could see them dropping like boba on Tuesdays and Mando on Fridays to really try and justify it. Plus, keep in mind they have like 6 star wars shows coming. You have to think there is eventually going to be overlap. Have to think the same will happen with marvel as they start adding series. It does seem strange based on what they have done so far, but they have a lot of shows on the schedule.

Yeah, I just think it could potentially lose or prevent viewers for one or the other. Whereas if rotating schedule then you’d have a more captive audience.. 2 Star Wars shows per week may work for many, but I think a lot of the general public will choose one, even if not during the first few episodes.

We’ll see how it plays out.. we only have 12 months to wait.lol

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don’t see the budget of a Disney+ movie or series really being much of a difference.
HBO has done it for years.

HBO forced an end to game of thrones...which was the biggest show on tv...several years early because of budgets.

Not a gold star example.

Iger/chapek aren’t subtle...when they say they are “excited for streaming”...there is no “of course we’ll spend a boatload on movies we can’t sell to foreign markets” hidden under there.

But we will have to watch new developments.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well, if December is going to be their announcements for cost raises, I could see them dropping like boba on Tuesdays and Mando on Fridays to really try and justify it. Plus, keep in mind they have like 6 star wars shows coming. You have to think there is eventually going to be overlap. Have to think the same will happen with marvel as they start adding series. It does seem strange based on what they have done so far, but they have a lot of shows on the schedule.

My personal thought is the shows are biding time through the global situation and the recession to follow (book it) to see what the market is for features 5 years down the line?

It’s a good strategy...one of iger’s better ones.

 

[doctornick]

Thank you. I wonder if it could possibly be a movie?

Am I the only one who thinks it’s strange to have these two shows streaming at the same time? Sidenote- We barely have time to watch The Mandalorian before seeing spoilers, I can’t imagine my family is unique in that.
Though just from a subscription standpoint, it would make more sense to split.. unless Disney doesn’t have subscribers who are canceling, which is a possibility too.

don't know why it would be all that weird to have both at once. It wouldn't be the first time that connected shows run in parallel at the same time (e.g. all the CW DC superhero shows). At some point, they'll have enough shows that they'll be releasing some major ones in an overlapping fashion. In 2021, it looks like they will be releasing 5 MCU series plus What If as well as Bad Batch for Star Wars so they will have a pretty constant presence of geek materials.

That said, I do wonder, as you have asked, if Book of Boba Fett is actually a full series or maybe just a movie. I don't think the announcement is clear.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

don't know why it would be all that weird to have both at once. It wouldn't be the first time that connected shows run in parallel at the same time (e.g. all the CW DC superhero shows). At some point, they'll have enough shows that they'll be releasing some major ones in an overlapping fashion. In 2021, it looks like they will be releasing 5 MCU series plus What If as well as Bad Batch for Star Wars so they will have a pretty constant presence of geek materials.

That said, I do wonder, as you have asked, if Book of Boba Fett is actually a full series or maybe just a movie. I don't think the announcement is clear.

The other thing is these “seasons” are rather pathetic. 8 episodes...10 episodes...

It works for now but it’s not gonna cut it with a fickle public forever. It’s not enough hours when they premieres 15 months apart. It’s a “fad” like all others prior

 

[21stamps]

HBO forced an end to game of thrones...which was the biggest show on tv...several years early because of budgets.

Not a gold star example.

Iger/chapek aren’t subtle...when they say they are “excited for streaming”...there is no “of course we’ll spend a boatload on movies we can’t sell to foreign markets” hidden under there.

But we will have to watch new developments.

Sorry, you misunderstood, I wasn’t comparing a movie to Game of Thrones, that was a series. HBO does both Original movies, and original series, as Disney+ has started doing more recently.. i.e Togo, Black Beauty, and I don’t remember the name of the others.

I have no idea if it will be a series or a movie, but I don’t think a box office would play into either one, nor does it need to, as they have shown that they will release original movies for the streaming service.

 

[21stamps]

don't know why it would be all that weird to have both at once. It wouldn't be the first time that connected shows run in parallel at the same time (e.g. all the CW DC superhero shows). At some point, they'll have enough shows that they'll be releasing some major ones in an overlapping fashion. In 2021, it looks like they will be releasing 5 MCU series plus What If as well as Bad Batch for Star Wars so they will have a pretty constant presence of geek materials.

That said, I do wonder, as you have asked, if Book of Boba Fett is actually a full series or maybe just a movie. I don't think the announcement is clear.

Ive never watched the marvel movies or shows.. do you know if those shows were as popular as The Mandalorian? By viewing numbers?

I have no idea.. I’m not really in the Marvel demographic, and I don’t know too many who are, though I do know some, but Star Wars seems to be an “everyone” market.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Sorry, you misunderstood, I wasn’t comparing a movie to Game of Thrones, that was a series. HBO does both Original movies, and original series, as Disney+ has started doing more recently.. i.e Togo, Black Beauty, and I don’t remember the name of the others.

I have no idea if it will be a series or a movie, but I don’t think a box office would play into either one, nor does it need to, as they have shown that they will release original movies for the streaming service.

I’m not misunderstanding anything (That’s rare)...I’m saying there are a lot of variables that will have to play out. The world won’t return to “normal” for along time...if ever...because of how this year has altered how business look at their Options...it’s not even consumers.

The movie industry is very scared...it played out in a big way this past week with an A list actor melting down. They’re not sure that the parent corporations have much a use for them anymore? That’s exactly what I’m saying...we just don’t know yet.

 

[doctornick]

Ive never watched the marvel movies or shows.. do you know if those shows were as popular as The Mandalorian? By viewing numbers?

I have no idea.. I’m not really in the Marvel demographic, and I don’t know too many who are, though I do know some, but Star Wars seems to be an “everyone” market.

There haven't been any Marvel shows on Disney+ to date. And no none of the previous Marvel shows reached the kind of phenomena of The Mandalorian (though some of the Netflix ones like Daredevil and Jessica Jones were pretty well regarded). That said, none of the Marvel shows really tied directly into the MCU that much - nothing like the upcoming series will, using major characters and actors directly from the films.

But I would say that Marvel stuff is very similar in terms of audience as Star Wars. Certainly, those films have had four quadrant appeal. I mean Endgame is the largest grossing film of all time and you don't get that without very wide appeal.

 

[21stamps]

There haven't been any Marvel shows on Disney+ to date. And no none of the previous Marvel shows reached the kind of phenomena of The Mandalorian (though some of the Netflix ones like Daredevil and Jessica Jones were pretty well regarded). That said, none of the Marvel shows really tied directly into the MCU that much - nothing like the upcoming series will, using major characters and actors directly from the films.

But I would say that Marvel stuff is very similar in terms of audience as Star Wars. Certainly, those films have had four quadrant appeal. I mean Endgame is the largest grossing film of all time and you don't get that without very wide appeal.

Oh for sure the movies are huge, I just never remember hearing as much widespread buzz for Marvel tv series as I do for the Mandalorian.. but I didn’t pay attention.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Oh for sure the movies are huge, I just never remember hearing as much widespread buzz for Marvel tv series as I do for the Mandalorian.. but I didn’t pay attention.

None have come out yet straight from Disney.

Mandalorian is big because of the yoda character taking off and so much of the core fanbase ticked at the movies they made that there was a huge vacuum/void to be filled.

We don’t know how the new marvel series will be received...but mcu has about 12 features in the pipeline that are the primary material ...guess how many Star Wars has??

 

[NateD1226]

 

[MisterPenguin]

https:///2020/12/book-of-boba-fett-mandalorian-season-3-rwb1/

What a bunch of waffling.

The only thing he knows is 'different shooting schedules,' and from that, he presumes Season 3 and TBoBF are separate. And they could very well be. But, and even he admits as such, he doesn't know for sure. Thus, they might be.... or not.

If the same season, the two story arcs can bounce back and forth, like Danarys at the beginning of Game of Thrones, or Hobbits arc v. Fellowship arc halfway through Lord of the Rings.

Or, TBoBF can be a movie or maybe a three week limited series that precedes Season 3 in December.

 

[doctornick]

What a bunch of waffling.

The only thing he knows is 'different shooting schedules,' and from that, he presumes Season 3 and TBoBF are separate. And they could very well be. But, and even he admits as such, he doesn't know for sure. Thus, they might be.... or not.

Well, he’s a storyboard artist and it doesn’t sound like he’s involved in production specifically so it seems it’s more just that he doesn’t know for certain than he’s “waffling”. He probably was involved in the art work and was told they were different products filming separately but doesn’t know if that changed at any point.

 

[DCBaker]

Book of Boba Fett is in Production now and Mandalorian Season 3 will follow.

 

[LSLS]

Well, there's our answer. New original.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Book of Boba Fett is in Production now and Mandalorian Season 3 will follow.

Whence the conclusion that "Season 3 will follow"?

Since they called tBoBF a "series", I guess we would presume it would have at least six episodes. So even if it starts the first week of December, then Season 3 of Mando, which we were told would also be in December, would be concurrent with tBoBF.

That still raises the question of "Seriously? Two Star Wars series at the same time?"

 

[LSLS]

Whence the conclusion that "Season 3 will follow"?

Since they called tBoBF a "series", I guess we would presume it would have at least six episodes. So even if it starts the first week of December, then Season 3 of Mando, which we were told would also be in December, would be concurrent with tBoBF.

That still raises the question of "Seriously? Two Star Wars series at the same time?"

So, 2 things come to mind for me. 1, Kennedy was just wrong about season 3. Makes her look terrible, but its very possible (especially considering it sounds like the same production crew for both). The other (which is not mutually exclusive from 1) is that they never really did believe there was such a thing as star wars fatigue, and they finally see the chance to really ramp up the product line.