SPOILERS: Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness

[Ghost93]

If the week to week drop off is 50%, as is typical. Then it's 450 + 450/2 + 450/4 +450/8.... which is 450 * (1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8...).

And as we all know, that's a converging infinite series which is equal to 450 * 2, which equals 900.

So, $900M is a safe bet.

Given the low Cinemascore, tho, history says there probably won't be a higher multiplier.

SP:NWH did $1.9B worldwide.

I think Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness has a good chance at $1 billion. Eternals had an even lower Cinemascore (B) and critical/audience reception and it made about 2.5 times its opening weekend (a total of $402 million from an opening weekend of $161 million). If MOM follows a similar trajectory as Eternals, it would end up with $1.125 billion.

 

[Disney Irish]

I think Phase 4 only feels directionless because it's essentially the new Phase One. And instead of setting up one Avengers movie to tie up all of the varying threads, I believe we are instead going to get multiple team ups/branches of the MCU:

1. The Cosmic side of Marvel — Captain Marvel, Thor, Guardians of the Galaxy, Fantastic Four and Eternals

2. Young Avengers — Kate Bishop, Cassie Lang, Ms. Marvel, Wiccan (Billy), Speed (Tommy), Patriot, Hulkling and America Chavez.

3. Street-level Avengers — Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Echo, Hawkeye

4. Midnight Sons — Blade, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Werewolf By Night

5. Mutants/X-men

6. A New Avengers Team (Sam Wilson, Bucky, Shang-Chi, Ant-man and the Wasp, She-Hulk, New Black Panther, possibly Yelena)

7. Possibly a new Illuminati team led by Dr. Strange? This is where all of the multiverse hereos will come into play.

Agreed, all leading up to a Secret Wars/Battleworld event.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If the week to week drop off is 50%, as is typical. Then it's 450 + 450/2 + 450/4 +450/8.... which is 450 * (1 + 1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8...).

And as we all know, that's a converging infinite series which is equal to 450 * 2, which equals 900.

So, $900M is a safe bet.

Given the low Cinemascore, tho, history says there probably won't be a higher multiplier.

SP:NWH did $1.9B worldwide.

I was surprised at the Spider-Man final take. Didn’t think it would go that far. But it was a core marvel character that played out the nostalgia thing.

Surprised the Dr Strange scores aren’t higher. I thought it was pretty solid.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think Phase 4 only feels directionless because it's essentially the new Phase One. And instead of setting up one Avengers movie to tie up all of the varying threads, I believe we are instead going to get multiple team ups/branches of the MCU:

1. The Cosmic side of Marvel — Captain Marvel, Thor, Guardians of the Galaxy, Fantastic Four and Eternals

2. Young Avengers — Kate Bishop, Cassie Lang, Ms. Marvel, Wiccan (Billy), Speed (Tommy), Patriot, Hulkling and America Chavez.

3. Street-level Avengers — Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Echo, Hawkeye

4. Midnight Sons — Blade, Black Knight (Dane Whitman), Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Werewolf By Night

5. Mutants/X-men

6. A New Avengers Team (Sam Wilson, Bucky, Shang-Chi, Ant-man and the Wasp, She-Hulk, New Black Panther, possibly Yelena)

7. Possibly a new Illuminati team led by Dr. Strange? This is where all of the multiverse hereos will come into play.

Agreed, all leading up to a Secret Wars/Battleworld event.

You guys are making a textbook case of the “dangers” going forward…

Thinking that rhe audience is more into the depth of comic books than they were just into the formula played out with the MCU development.

But time will tell. There’s ways to make it all work and ways to crash it. We can all see what happens.

 

[Ripken10]

Question for those that get pretty deep in these movies that I was wondering. Given the whole fear of an insursion when one stays in a reality not there own too long, what of the alternate Gamora that disappeared at the end of end game. It seems her time spent in the mcu timeline would have been long enough to create those two realities to collide. Or is there a piece I am missing or something From the comics I missed to explain

 

[vikescaper]

Question for those that get pretty deep in these movies that I was wondering. Given the whole fear of an insursion when one stays in a reality not there own too long, what of the alternate Gamora that disappeared at the end of end game. It seems her time spent in the mcu timeline would have been long enough to create those two realities to collide. Or is there a piece I am missing or something From the comics I missed to explain

My take is that the Gamora from Endgame was from an earlier time in the main universe and not from the multiverse. I don’t think she could lead to an incursion happening.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Question for those that get pretty deep in these movies that I was wondering. Given the whole fear of an insursion when one stays in a reality not there own too long, what of the alternate Gamora that disappeared at the end of end game. It seems her time spent in the mcu timeline would have been long enough to create those two realities to collide. Or is there a piece I am missing or something From the comics I missed to explain

The MCU doesn't give a definitive answer.

When Steve Rogers went back in time to return the stones, supposedly fixing the timeline that was broken when they went back in time and stole the stones, he stayed with Peggy. We don't know if he then hid out in the current timeline not interfering until he shows up aged, or, that created a branch and a new universe with a new timeline and then he jumped from the new one he made to the current MCU timeline to give the shield to Falcon.

In the current MCU timeline, past Thanos learns of the time jumping and then jumps forward in time bringing past Gamora with him. So, did that create a new timeline and a new universe? And if it did, they all got dusted except for Gamora, who's current MCU timeline version is dead. Would that be an incursion since there are no living variants sharing the same timeline/universe? It can go either way. Most likely whatever the story they want to create.

 

[Disney Irish]

You guys are making a textbook case of the “dangers” going forward…

Thinking that rhe audience is more into the depth of comic books than they were just into the formula played out with the MCU development.

But time will tell. There’s ways to make it all work and ways to crash it. We can all see what happens.

As I mentioned before it’s possible that fans don’t follow Marvel into the deep comic lore that appears to be coming. However I don’t believe it’ll be as “dangerous” as you think it is. I believe they’ll go along for the ride just as they have been.

And yes only time will tell.

But as I’ve said all along, “In Feige I Trust!”.

 

[Disney Irish]

Question for those that get pretty deep in these movies that I was wondering. Given the whole fear of an insursion when one stays in a reality not there own too long, what of the alternate Gamora that disappeared at the end of end game. It seems her time spent in the mcu timeline would have been long enough to create those two realities to collide. Or is there a piece I am missing or something From the comics I missed to explain

She’s from the same 616 Universe as the main timeline so it shouldn’t be an issue.

 

[MisterPenguin]

She’s from the same 616 Universe as the main timeline so it shouldn’t be an issue.

Loki and "What If?..." established that changes to the timeline creates variant universes. It's messy.

 

[BrianLo]

Agatha was pretty evil... she killed Sparky!!

And her coven. And her mother. And didn't care about the people Wanda hexed except to use that against Wanda's supposed hero status.​

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And in the end, she would have killed Wanda for all her power.​

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So, yeah, pretty evil.​

It took me a minute to piece things together, that it was Wanda that sent the monster to collect America's power. Strange should have been quite a bit more pointed that Wanda killed a version of himself.

But it's all the Darkhold's hold on Wanda. In the end, it became the true villain of the story... the source of the madness.

And it corrupted Agatha, and two of Strange's variants; and in Agents of Shield, it corrupted everyone who used it.

I think I would have liked just one minor tweak. When Xavier entered Wanda's head, I wish it was our 'good' Wanda under the ruble (via the Darkhold's power) rather than alt reality's Wanda.

I just felt like Wanda was weirdly the character I was most attached to heading into this movie. She was far more developed (and still is!) than Steven.

 

[BrianLo]

Loki and "What If?..." established that changes to the timeline creates variant universes. It's messy.

Indeed. The excuse perhaps is that Gamora is 'meant to' happen as part of the sacred timeline. That or technically she occurs after Variant Loki and perhaps the 616 TVA has "fallen" by then.

 

[Disney Irish]

Loki and "What If?..." established that changes to the timeline creates variant universes. It's messy.

Yes, but as we know from the end of Loki the TVA isn't what it seems, nor is Kang.

Anyways we'll find out more in Thor 3 and GotG 3 about this "variant" of Gamora and in Quantumania about Kang.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

As I mentioned before it’s possible that fans don’t follow Marvel into the deep comic lore that appears to be coming. However I don’t believe it’ll be as “dangerous” as you think it is. I believe they’ll go along for the ride just as they have been.

And yes only time will tell.

But as I’ve said all along, “In Feige I Trust!”.

Fair enough

She’s from the same 616 Universe as the main timeline so it shouldn’t be an issue.

…errr…wha?

(I know what you’re saying…but my doubt is in mass audiences assigning numeric codes to their recreational movie watching )

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Loki and "What If?..." established that changes to the timeline creates variant universes. It's messy.

This must be “the introduction to the opposites”??

You said what I was thinking

 

[Disney Irish]

…errr…wha?

(I know what you’re saying…but my doubt is in mass audiences assigning numeric codes to their recreational movie watching )

Um, Christine only said it during Multiverse of Madness. So its not the audience assigning the code, its the movie itself assigning that code. Now if the audience doesn't pick up that detail its not really that critical to the overall story. All that is needed to be known is Gamora isn't from the multiverse, she is from the same universe just a different timeline so that wouldn't cause an "incursion" event which is the question the poster here asked.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Um, Christine only said it during Multiverse of Madness. So its not the audience assigning the code, its the movie itself assigning that code. Now if the audience doesn't pick up that detail its not really that critical to the overall story. All that is needed to be known is Gamora isn't from the multiverse, she is from the same universe just a different timeline so that wouldn't cause an "incursion" event which is the question the poster here asked.

It’s all fun and games until it’s “Shangchi and universe 11567: spring break ”

 

[MisterPenguin]

Is the comic book 616 the same as the MCU 616, tho?

 

[Disney Irish]

It’s all fun and games until it’s “Shangchi and universe 11567: spring break ”

I’ll have you know that Shang-Chi would never set food on Universe 11567, he’s been banned ever since that one incident when he was a kid…

 

[Disney Irish]

Is the comic book 616 the same as the MCU 616, tho?

If asking seriously, I would say yeah as Universe 616 is the prime universe for any Marvel story; also called the Editorial Universe.