SPOILER: The Acolyte -- Disney+ Star Wars -- begins June 5, 2024

[erasure fan1]

I find it’s funny why people get stuck on this one past depiction. You can certainly also get shot or stabbed and live. Based on the depiction of where that character was stabbed with a saber it is very plausible to live, especially since it provides cautery. And it’s a fantasy world with advance tech, medical advancement demonstrated through cloning and revivification goo.

But I think they wanted to send the message - “she dead” loud and clear on this one.

I think people get stuck on it, including myself, is not because it could never happen. Sure it could happen. Up until now we've only it happen in a animated film. Now all of a sudden we've seen it 3 or 4 times in just over a yearish? It just kind of seems like they are using it too conveniently. You have to admit it is kind of funny.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think people get stuck on it, including myself, is not because it could never happen. Sure it could happen. Up until now we've only it happen in a animated film. Now all of a sudden we've seen it 3 or 4 times in just over a yearish? It just kind of seems like they are using it too conveniently. You have to admit it is kind of funny.

Back from the dead is just lazy storytelling

Because you don’t have to write new characters to fill the void

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

I think people get stuck on it, including myself, is not because it could never happen. Sure it could happen. Up until now we've only it happen in a animated film. Now all of a sudden we've seen it 3 or 4 times in just over a yearish? It just kind of seems like they are using it too conveniently. You have to admit it is kind of funny.

It might be overdone, but it's also not exclusive to Star Wars.

Main characters in horror movies for example will survive multiple stab wounds that minor characters don't.

I'm not a fan of unrealistic survival scenarios that take one out of a show, but plot armour is very common.

It's not even dissimilar to other story points that occur because the movie wants them to. How convenient that the original Avengers survived the Thanos snap, for example, so that Endgame could focus on the OG heroes.

It's also slightly bemusing to debate whether or not one could survive being impaled by a lightsaber, something that does not actually exist.

 

[erasure fan1]

It might be overdone, but it's also not exclusive to Star Wars.

Main characters in horror movies for example will survive multiple stab wounds that minor characters don't.

That's true. But that's kind of horror movie troup that gets called out and joked about all the time.

It's not even dissimilar to other story points that occur because the movie wants them to. How convenient that the original Avengers survived the Thanos snap, for example, so that Endgame could focus on the OG heroes.

True as well. You can't forget the time travel. That's a good one too. I'm not saying it is some unique thing to star wars. It's just kind of funny they've done it a bunch recently. Heck, twice in one show. Lol

 

[sedati]

Some people won't accept anything that isn't another Empire Strikes Back i

Yea, we call them Star War fans, not Star Wars fans.

 

[BrianLo]

I think people get stuck on it, including myself, is not because it could never happen. Sure it could happen. Up until now we've only it happen in a animated film. Now all of a sudden we've seen it 3 or 4 times in just over a yearish? It just kind of seems like they are using it too conveniently. You have to admit it is kind of funny.

I'm literally not even sure when it has happened. Let me betray how loose my knowledge is despite having watched most of this stuff. It has happened 3-4 times in the past year alone?

I know there is Darth Maul, then Anakin (different than a lightsaber, but similarly poorly non-viable), Luke's hand. Then Rey heals someone in episode 9? What are the other instances I'm forgetting? Did Sabine get stabbed?

But good news is at least 6 Jedi were killed by lightsabers last episode, so it's not an Acolyte problem per say.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm literally not even sure when it has happened. Let me betray how loose my knowledge is despite having watched most of this stuff. It has happened 3-4 times in the past year alone?

I know there is Darth Maul, then Anakin (different than a lightsaber, but similarly poorly non-viable), Luke's hand. Then Rey heals someone in episode 9? What are the other instances I'm forgetting? Did Sabine get stabbed?

But good news is at least 6 Jedi were killed by lightsabers last episode, so it's not an Acolyte problem per say.

The emperor

Fennec Shand


Actually…they do it a lot

 

[erasure fan1]

I know there is Darth Maul, then Anakin (different than a lightsaber, but similarly poorly non-viable), Luke's hand. Then Rey heals someone in episode 9? What are the other instances I'm forgetting? Did Sabine get stabbed?

The grand inquisitor, Reva as well

But good news is at least 6 Jedi were killed by lightsabers last episode, so it's not an Acolyte problem per say.

At least for right now.

 

[rd805]

Not sure what I think of the episode. I can't explain it.

 

[erasure fan1]

Not sure what I think of the episode. I can't explain it.

That's kind of how I've felt about the whole show so far. Parts I say this could be interesting. Then a bit later it's, what were they thinking? It's all going to come down to the ending and how satisfying it is. At least for me anyway.

 

[Phroobar]

The grand inquisitor, Reva as well

At least for right now.

Qui-Gon Jinn didn't make it.

 

[Phroobar]

You guys are very different from what I read on the Star Wars fan sites. All they want is a well written story. We got that in Andor and Rogue One. This one feels like a draft and really needed some editing and revisioning. There are just a lot of editorial and continuity mistakes within it's own story.

I think a lot of Star Wars fans are scared that Disney might say "screw it" and put Star Wars on hiatus much like they did with the Muppets. There would be no more flow of collectibles or stories.

If we look at Star Trek, every odd number movie & Nemesis is considered a failure. (except The Motion Picture). Even the tv shows weren't all loved as much as OTS or TNG. I remember a lot of hate for the first couple of seasons of Enterprise, Picard and Discovery. Even Deep Space Nine started pretty slowly. (Babylon 5 was better.)

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Qui-Gon Jinn didn't make it.

Which was shocking at the time…because it has never happened.

Now they bother to have them get offed in 30 seconds and we don’t even know their names

It’s getting tired

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You guys are very different from what I read on the Star Wars fan sites. All they want is a well written story.

that’s all they…we…ever wanted. Since the 1980’s. The “hate network” is an excuse to run interference over this reality

We got that in Andor and Rogue One.

that’s why they’re the only things really getting any fan love/developing legs

This one feels like a draft and really needed some editing and revisioning. There are just a lot of editorial and continuity mistakes within it's own story.

they’re all like this. Considering how much money they are dumping…how can you shoot bad stories/characters?

I think a lot of Star Wars fans are scared that Disney might say "screw it" and put Star Wars on hiatus much like they did with the Muppets. There would be no more flow of collectibles or stories.

That certainly is in the back of the mind for many

If we look at Star Trek, every odd number movie & Nemesis is considered a failure. (except The Motion Picture). Even the tv shows weren't all loved as much as OTS or TNG. I remember a lot of hate for the first couple of seasons of Enterprise, Picard and Discovery. Even Deep Space Nine started pretty slowly. (Babylon 5 was better.)

They flooded the zone…too much. But even that aside…some of that - ds9 in particular - had some brilliant writing and acting performances. Still holds up…which is amazing for 30 year old sci fi

What Disney is doing isn’t close

Agree about B5 too

 

[flynnibus]

What I have learned from this show is... the Jedi are really bad at sensing the Sith... in prior shows it was talked about how Palpatine was able to hide from the Jedi... yet this seems like a pretty common occurance now.

Sensing people is really... uneven

 

[erasure fan1]

I think a lot of Star Wars fans are scared that Disney might say "screw it" and put Star Wars on hiatus much like they did with the Muppets. There would be no more flow of collectibles or stories.

To be fair, theatrical is on hiatus. If, and it's a big if, we get a film, it won't be until 26 at the earliest most likely. That's 7yrs, definitely hiatus status in my book.

I think a lot of fans wouldn't mind if the shows went on hiatus. There will still be plenty of merchandise for fans that want it. You just won't get that kick from a film or show. But aside from Mando, we haven't seen a huge uptick in merch from either.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What I have learned from this show is... the Jedi are really bad at sensing the Sith... in prior shows it was talked about how Palpatine was able to hide from the Jedi... yet this seems like a pretty common occurance now.

Sensing people is really... uneven

I think that is maybe the key missing ingredient of the last 25 years

Prior they were wise/powerful space wizards…

Since 1999 theyve been buffoons…the key stone cops from Uranus

 

[Phroobar]

To be fair, theatrical is on hiatus. If, and it's a big if, we get a film, it won't be until 26 at the earliest most likely. That's 7yrs, definitely hiatus status in my book.

I think a lot of fans wouldn't mind if the shows went on hiatus. There will still be plenty of merchandise for fans that want it. You just won't get that kick from a film or show. But aside from Mando, we haven't seen a huge uptick in merch from either.

Merch is made for each tv show. It just isn't sold at retail brick & mortar stores anymore. It's all online. It pretty much goes on clearance fairly quickly. Obiwan stuff is at half retail and Ashoka is heading that direction too. Acolyte has about eight figures in all three lines. Smile-o Ren's mask was just announced for preorder. They are due in September and should be heavily discounted by the new year. I could use some dead Jedi for my Battle of Geonsis diorama.

 

[erasure fan1]

Merch is made for each tv show. It just isn't sold at retail brick & mortar stores anymore. It's all online. It pretty much goes on clearance fairly quickly. Obiwan stuff is at half retail and Ashoka is heading that direction too. Acolyte has about eight figures in all three lines. Smile-o Ren's mask was just announced for preorder. They are due in September and should be heavily discounted by the new year. I could use some dead Jedi for my Battle of Geonsis diorama.

That's really my point. I don't think the fans will care if the shows go away for a while. That merch didn't really do all that much. It's still the OT and some prequel that still sells. So even if there's nothing going on theatrical or D+, the same things will be still selling.

 

[BrianLo]

That's kind of how I've felt about the whole show so far. Parts I say this could be interesting. Then a bit later it's, what were they thinking? It's all going to come down to the ending and how satisfying it is. At least for me anyway.

I think we’re all on the same page here. It’s still just skirting middle of the road and all the hyperbolic stuff on either end is overstated.

I’m kind of like will I rate the final series a 6/10 or 7/10. TBD.