Ok, good I'm glad we can agree that its actually happening. It seemed like you were denying it was happening or at least was trying to downplay it.
Than you haven't been listening to what I've been saying. I've always condemned the harassment. I've always said there is a group that hates Disney. Do I downplay it? I'd say yes. Because I don't believe it has as large of an effect as is made out. Some media, by the rules I've seen on here, shouldn't be successful. But they are and it's downplayed. but when it's not successful or taking heat, it's back to Twitter is killing star wars!
Why didn't people watch solo? White male lead, 3 hugely popular characters, big cameo at the end, great action sequences, compelling side characters. Yet it didn't resonate. Why isn't the hate mob blamed constantly for bringing it down? Same goes for rogue one on the other side. The mob hates diversity yet the most diverse film has the best track record from a huge amount of fans. It seems to only be a problem when people want to assign blame to something other than the creators.
We have a poster here that almost proudly made the same statement on their viewership habits. So if you have a group that is artificially causing the review scores to go down then why would they be doing that if not to effect the viewership numbers?
Yes, they are doing it to bring down viewership numbers. And yes some people will make decisions based on these scores. But honestly, do you believe in your heart that it's enough to really bring down something like star wars? maybe I'm naive, but I just don't see it.
I never made that claim, so I'm not part of "you guys". I honestly don't know what fans want, especially recently.
There's a group here that constantly thows fans aren't happy unless it's a white male lead and is part of Skywalker Saga... And if you haven't said something like that, sorry. But I've heard it many times from the lucasfilm supporters, which I know you are part of. And that's fine that you are. That's why I said you guys.
As I've said many times, I like what I like and dislike what I don't. I make no apologies if what I like isn't something that someone else doesn't, and vice-versa. Just because I like current Star Wars content doesn't mean I blindly support it. If I didn't like it I would say so.
Here's where the big disconnect comes in. You can like what you like, I've said more times than I can remember, I like things that are considered bad. The difference is I'm not going to accuse people that they have some agenda because they don't agree with me. And that has been something that has happened with a whole group of posters on here.
The acolyte is getting hammered by the usual suspects. That should be no surprise to anyone. But there is a lot wrong with these first 3 episodes. Legitimate issues, not made up nonsense like, the twins have two moms, star wars can never recover! The 3rd episode wasn't great for me. Why? Because it did very little for the story overall. It would have worked so much better if it was part of the first episode. Or split between that and the 2nd. The threads not something you weild, 5 seconds later you're weilding it. The dramatic shot to show a completely stone fortress, only to have it burn down from a book being lit on fire? It goes on and on. You're just going to hand some random kid your lightsaber in a room willed with darkside witches? These are valid complaints, not just Mae and Osha are poc so star wars sucks!
Echo while mature was a 100% diverse cast, Fallout is not the same even though it was considered mature due to its primarily white cast.
We'll have to disagree on this one. Just a glance at both echo and fallouts imdb page tell a different story. Take the main cast of Echo. In the top cast you have all indigenous and a few white people in the top 25 or so. In fallout you have a much broader diversity set. Sure there's more white people as you say, but isn't the goal more representation? Fallout has at least 6 distinct diverse groups including transgender. Last I checked 6 is more than 2. So maybe our definition or what qualifies as diversity is different. But I'd say both shows are very diverse and are more than ok to compare. So it will have to be an agree to disagree on this one.
