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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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Incomudro
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Too late for that.
I don't want Splash rethemed, and disagree with the motivation for doing so.
Those are things I'll still argue about.
But it is being done.
I did however watch PatF just a couple of days ago, so that I would know what I was talking about and have a better idea of the movie.
The movie was very good, and the visuals as well as songs certainly lend themselves to a good retheme should Disney put the required work in, which of course is something most of us are worried they won't.
Box office sales, much like music sales aren't always a good indication of good work.
Again, the movie was really well done - and I'm regular guy saying this, who watched it alone while my wife was at work.
I'm retired.
I don't want Splash rethemed, and disagree with the motivation for doing so.
Those are things I'll still argue about.
But it is being done.
I did however watch PatF just a couple of days ago, so that I would know what I was talking about and have a better idea of the movie.
The movie was very good, and the visuals as well as songs certainly lend themselves to a good retheme should Disney put the required work in, which of course is something most of us are worried they won't.
Box office sales, much like music sales aren't always a good indication of good work.
Again, the movie was really well done - and I'm regular guy saying this, who watched it alone while my wife was at work.
I'm retired.
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Disstevefan1
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Rip your CDs.
It's the only way to go for me. You have the "Hard copy" of the music on CD plus the digital files.
TheMaxRebo
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But is Splash popular due to the ride system or the theme?
A friend just went down with his daughter's school group - 140 middle schoolers and they all enjoyed Splash but not a single one knew who the characters were or where they were from
Patcheslee
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With my 13yos POV Splash is memorable as "the water ride" at Magic Kingdom. We haven't been in 3 years, but she didn't know who the characters were either. Thought it was a different story about Peter Rabbit instead lol
Bocabear
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That is sort of the beauty of that ride...you don't need to know who the characters are or where they are from to enjoy it...It's a beautifully done musical spectacular, full of characters and motion, and the longest most visual log ride that was ever built... It could have been any character if it was populated with as many animatronics and visual candy. I think it stands beautifully with no real reference to the film... But a Tiana retheme can work as long as it has the same amount of character and settings... But the name Tiana's Bayou Adventure is really terrible. people will end up calling it Splash forever or just "Tiana"... "Let's go ride Tiana...." There has to be a better catchier name for it that will stick.
UNCgolf
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It's not the Br'er theme itself (i.e. not the IP) -- it's the overall theming quality. it's how detailed everything is with the physical sets, AAs, etc.
Otherwise it could just be a simple log flume ride. People would still enjoy that, but no one would consider it a masterpiece.
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Incomudro
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And the music.
Zip a dee doo dah, is one of the must hummable tunes.
There's a reason it was a huge part of Disney.
And with Splash, it just added to your happiness as you exited the ride.
You walked away singing it in your head, it along with the ride - just made you feel good.
PatF has some good songs, they'll work well and I can imagine them having some staying power with riders.
But, they're not Zip a dee doo dah.
Sir_Cliff
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Exactly. It always seemed to me pretty much the pinnacle of Imagineering for the integration of story and physical ride experience in a way that was very intricate and well thought out, but reads as almost effortless. Not to beat a dead horse, but on another thread there has been a debate about the Dinosaur storyline and that, to me, is the example of a far more clunky effort to engineer a storyline to fit the ride technology that you need to literally explain to guests before they get on the ride. Splash just sort of unfolds as you move along, with sets, lighting, and music all creating a compelling atmosphere and driving the story along.
This is the one thing that has me nervous about the new version. At this point, I am more or less in agreement the re-theme was going to happen someday due to the source material. The main concern is whether Imagineering can come up with a ride that shows the same level of skill as what it's replacing.
Californian Elitist
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DL guests already do this, where they shorten the names of rides and attractions, and I’m pretty sure WDW guests do it, too. Do you personally always say each attraction’s full name?
This will be normal.
Sir_Cliff
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Indeed, it seems a non-issue. I'm sure most people already just say they're just going to ride Peter Pan, Pinocchio, Buzz, Pirates, etc. If I had to guess, this will just become "Tiana" which seems fine to me. I think people even shorten Splash Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain to Splash and Big Thunder!
Californian Elitist
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Yep! And CMs tend to shorten them even more. When I worked in Fantasyland, we used “Pan,” “Snow,” “Alice,” “Toad,” “Carousel,” etc. We likely all do it. I have referred to Splash Mountain as simply “Splash” a gazillion times.
This is another “issue” that people are making up.
Midwest Elitist
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Yep. When Splash was down on my recent trip, me and my friends got a dole whip and sat down in Frontierland. I looked at my phone, saw it was back up and exclaimed "Splash is back!" And we rushed over.
Will be calling it Splash till my dying breath though. TBA just doesn't roll off the tongue.
So I just rewatched Princess and The Frog and it is IMOP a great movie. I am also excited for the new ride even though I also love Song of the South and Splash. I wonder how much reference the new ride will make to her "man catching" beignets because you know not offending anyone is Diseny's new business model!!
Ghost93
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Not sure why they would reference beignets as "man catching" if they intend to sell them to people of all genders (and earn more profit). The "man catching beignets" line worked in the movie because it was specifically about Charlotte trying to use Tiana's food to get a husband. But if Disney sells food to all customers, it wouldn't make sense to market beignets as something only men enjoy. You want men and women to buy beignets for themselves!
Incomudro
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But it ties the film to an unpleasant and dated reference.
That kind of thing isn't allowed anymore.
The film's got voodoo in it too.
Now, I'm not bothered by any of these things, but I don't make these new rules.
eliza61nyc
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Nope maelstrom was horrible, glad it's gone. Sorry with every little girl in love with Elsa, I wouldn't say no one thinks it's an improvement
But I do have to ask, how is it a shell of a ride?? It's the exact same ride. Nothing changed pretty much except they swapped out knomes for snow monsters.
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Bocabear
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I would have to agree...Honestly Maelstrom was a good idea that just didn't work that well...too short and after the lightning effects were turned off and the storm sequence was calmed down, the second half of the ride was really just waiting for the doors could open so you could get on with your day...And while I was never happy about adding IP to a World Showcase attraction, I can readily admit it is better than whit it replaced...Still a lot of empty space for improvement, but definitely better.
Disney Analyst
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This entire first new section of the ride is better than the entirety of Maelstrom. Just a gorgeous set design and sequence.
Add in the queue being a major improvement, fluid AAs throughout, no oil rig to float past, and no theatre to be dumped into....
A much better ride.
Add in the queue being a major improvement, fluid AAs throughout, no oil rig to float past, and no theatre to be dumped into....
A much better ride.
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