News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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BuddyThomas

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I'd actually be fine with that.
Even as a kid, I was never into Frontierland. Perhaps being born in '63 made me a bit late to be into that sort of thing... I don't know.
Adventureland was my thing.
So, yeah - a New Orleans shift is something I can accept.
A G-rated New Orleans land without Hurricanes (Drinks, not storms) or other cocktails? Emmmmmmmmm……..
 

yensidtlaw1969

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A G-rated New Orleans land without Hurricanes (Drinks, not storms) or other cocktails? Emmmmmmmmm……..
Disneyland has had one for 55 years, and praise has always been high.

That said, I really doubt Disney's intention here is to usher forth any holistic change to Frontierland. Look at how little went into the reworking of Tomorrowland in the lead up to TRON. Some new paint and de-themed pavement - and that's in a land they fully recognize needs real help.
 

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I feel like Frontierland will either be completely rethemed to New Orleans or significant chunks of Frontierland will be completely rethemed. I think the replacement of Splash Mountain with Tiana's Bayou Adventure is just the first step.
If they had come out and said this and only this, and that splash mountain was going to be rethemed as the first step, I think the conversation would be much less polarized. I love splash mountain and BTMRR, but I would be less hesitant about a total area retheme rather than one immersion-breaking section in a well-themed, established area. I still would prefer it just to be its own ride elsewhere in the park. It's not like we're seeing walk-on wait times in the majority of rides as is, so another ride wouldn't hurt them.
 

Ghost93

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3 of the 4 attractions in Frontierland place their origins closer to the Appalachian Mountains than the Rocky Mountains. BTMRR is the outlier here. If the company had an inkling of ambition it would seize on the opportunity to refresh as much of Frontierland as possible to match a Bayou aesthetic and revisit a western theme for any potential expansion into the northwest of the park that could happen in 10-20 years.
I think if they easily give BTMRR a coat of paint and tweak it a bit so it's not set in the old west. Maybe they could keep the track of BTMRR, but change the theme to be a Louisianna salt mine.
 

MisterPenguin

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Here's an idea:

BTMR is the only attraction that has to remain "The Old West." So... update the Rivers of America to really be the rivers of America like it is in Disneyland. You start at a Philadelphia port on the Delaware (Liberty Square Port). Then you go up the Mississippi incorporating New Orleans and The South (Bears and Tiana and Tom Sawyer). Then you round the bend to the Colorado River where BTMR is. Then up the Missouri and/or Yellowstone and/or Columbia/Snake river for Indian scenes. Then round the bend down the Hudson for Haunted Mansion.

This way, BTMR is part of the Rivers of America attraction rather than part of a Frontier Land. And, in the same way, Haunted Mansion is part of the Rivers of America and not part of Liberty Square.

Then we do away with "Frontierland" and replace it with "Mississippi Valley."
 

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Here's an idea:

BTMR is the only attraction that has to remain "The Old West." So... update the Rivers of America to really be the rivers of America like it is in Disneyland. You start at a Philadelphia port on the Delaware (Liberty Square Port). Then you go up the Mississippi incorporating New Orleans and The South (Bears and Tiana and Tom Sawyer). Then you round the bend to the Colorado River where BTMR is. Then up the Missouri and/or Yellowstone and/or Columbia/Snake river for Indian scenes. Then round the bend down the Hudson for Haunted Mansion.

This way, BTMR is part of the Rivers of America attraction rather than part of a Frontier Land. And, in the same way, Haunted Mansion is part of the Rivers of America and not part of Liberty Square.

Then we do away with "Frontierland" and replace it with "Mississippi Valley."
It's a shame Disney didn't pitch it like this. Have you thought about working for Disney? :)
 

LittleBuford

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I feel like Frontierland will either be completely rethemed to New Orleans or significant chunks of Frontierland will be completely rethemed. I think the replacement of Splash Mountain with Tiana's Bayou Adventure is just the first step.
I very much doubt it, and such extensive retheming would be unnecessary anyway. The concept art doesn't suggest that the ride's exterior is going to be overhauled to any degree that would upset Frontierland's visual coherence.
 

Disstevefan1

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Kind-off off topic but, It amazes me that Disney has still not rolled out alcohol in MK (outside of TSRs)
I hear ya, the margins are the highest for alcohol so I too am surprised.
One thing that worries me, there are already brawls between guests now in the MK, that will surely increase when you add alcohol to the mix.

Besides, folks want to drink while a WDW, They got EPCOT..
 
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Disney Glimpses

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This is why social ills are so hard to overcome. People cling to old ideas like they were inscribed on stone tablets.
I kinda agree with both of you but per @Trauma's point (and this isn't necessarily applicable to SM), typically we strive to improve and get better over time. Which means anything in the rear view mirror will often be worse than it is now or tied to something now viewed as "problematic." As it stands now, you could go after virtually every facet of the Magic Kingdom with similar accusations to varying degrees.

That doesn't mean change shouldn't happen but in my opinion we should be doing stuff that actually solves a blatantly visible problem and not a theoretical one. Again, may or may not be applicable to SM.
 

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