Sharon&Susan
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Imagine if it outlives all of us. Standing for thousands of years untouched like a Greek Temple just with more skunk Figment!
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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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matt9112
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Sensitivity….it sells.
FettFan
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Your experience is wrong.
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bhg469
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45 minutes for pirates and haunted mansion as well... Guess those pesky kids are riding for the lolz
Midwest Elitist
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Or the constant "I'm a gen Z-er but I like this old <insert media> better than today's <media medium>". Usually having to do with music / video games / etc.
I think this is a phenomenon with all generations though.
It is timeless. Rename the characters and suddenly... there isn't a problem.
Disney Glimpses
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All kidding aside, yes, the 30+ year attractions (including Splash Mountain) that remain today are incredibly popular among today's kids with few exceptions. Disney largely owes its success to this.
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BuddyThomas
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Well, they will get over the Splash Mountain thing. The only ones I hear crying about it are their parents.
BuddyThomas
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My experience is my experience. Your experience is your experience. So don't tell me "my experience is wrong". You people. Sheesh. And posting a lot of wait times doesn't have anything to do with anything.
Disney Glimpses
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Oh, I mean I agree with you there. Kids will probably love the new ride more than the current.
bhg469
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Ehhhhhh... They sort of do though? When tron opens, those wait times won't be going down my one single minute. People of all ages love those attractions.
fngoofy
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Not Location, TIME!d
Look at the addresses on the buildings starting in Liberty Square. They represent the date that you are in. They work up from the founding of the country and end at the turn of the 19th to 20ty century with BTMRR being in the 1890s.
PatF is set in the late 1920s.
It fits in New Orleans Sq in DL, but not in Frontierland in the MK.
Just as MI Laugh floor doesn't fit in Tomorrowland.
Just as flying carpets don't fit in Adventure land (more from a location than time stand point. It goes poly, then desert, then Caribbean.
FettFan
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Well, I deliberately selected those three because they have existed the longest with minimal, if any, changes.
I also didn’t count shows because of their nature; they never have much of an external queue.
The only show I know of that’s been unchanged for 30 years is Muppet*Vision3D.
Country Bears doesn’t count because there have been three different shows, and the current version of the original has been cut down to make it shorter and more inoffensive (removed a couple of songs as well as Max, Buff, and Melvin’s comments on Trixie’s size)
Disstevefan1
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That’s just it, I wasn’t paying attention at all as to whatever story was supposed to be showing there. I was just passively taking in colors, animatronics, the music and mostly waiting for the drop at the end..
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LittleBuford
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Again, the Country Bears work against your point: their show is very much a mid-twentieth-century affair.
Smiley/OCD
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Kinda why vinyl records made such a comeback…
Animaniac93-98
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I'd say at this point the ride's continued success, in three different locations, is proof that it is.
The ride now stands on its own apart from the movie it's based on. In part because it takes the subject matter and reinvents it for a new medium with significantly better results.
It's a better "live action remake" than all these live action movie remakes they've done in the last decade+
LittleBuford
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Several things can be true at once.
Splash Mountain is indeed a charming masterpiece, loved by many (myself include).
Few people have any real knowledge of the IP to which it is tied. Many, and perhaps even a majority, of those riding it may have no idea whatsoever of its source material.
However, the IP in question happens to be a film that has been regarded as controversial from the moment of its inception. Since 1946, long before most of us were born, criticism has been levelled at Song of the South for its portrayal of plantation life. The debate started over half a century before the fabled "woke mob" can be accused of getting involved.
What this means is that Splash Mountain, no matter how charming or beloved it may be, and regardless of how little-known Song of the South is today, has an indelible connection to something long perceived as problematic. That connection was previously thought of as tenuous enough not to matter; now, Disney considers it to be a liability.
I'm not sure why those who object to the retheme aren't at least able to acknowledge the chain of circumstances that have brought us here. No amount of obfuscation or denial can change the fact that Splash Mountain would never have existed in its current form had it not been for Song of the South. Its relationship to the film cannot be pretended away; it's baked into the ride itself.
Splash Mountain is indeed a charming masterpiece, loved by many (myself include).
Few people have any real knowledge of the IP to which it is tied. Many, and perhaps even a majority, of those riding it may have no idea whatsoever of its source material.
However, the IP in question happens to be a film that has been regarded as controversial from the moment of its inception. Since 1946, long before most of us were born, criticism has been levelled at Song of the South for its portrayal of plantation life. The debate started over half a century before the fabled "woke mob" can be accused of getting involved.
What this means is that Splash Mountain, no matter how charming or beloved it may be, and regardless of how little-known Song of the South is today, has an indelible connection to something long perceived as problematic. That connection was previously thought of as tenuous enough not to matter; now, Disney considers it to be a liability.
I'm not sure why those who object to the retheme aren't at least able to acknowledge the chain of circumstances that have brought us here. No amount of obfuscation or denial can change the fact that Splash Mountain would never have existed in its current form had it not been for Song of the South. Its relationship to the film cannot be pretended away; it's baked into the ride itself.
Disstevefan1
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I think it time for a tangent
I lived through and was a consumer of vinyl, 8 track, cassettes, CDs and now mp3s
I love CDs but I really love mp3s
No pops, skips, no tape hiss, no frozen tape cartridges.
Perfectly clear music with a better frequency response than vinyl or tape, my entire music collection, all in my very small iPod.
Yes iPod, it works, why change?
Smiley/OCD
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There’s only one problem…human ears only hear in analog…they’re not capable of processing digital. That’s why analog sounds so much “warmer” to the human ear and brain…don’t get me wrong, the convenience can’t be beat…having worked, managed and owned record stores for 20+ years, I’ll take a piece of vinyl over an MP3 or download any day of the week.I think it time for a tangent
I lived through and was a consumer of vinyl, 8 track, cassettes, CDs and now mp3s
I love CDs but I really love mp3s
No pops, skips, no tape hiss, no frozen tape cartridges.
Perfectly clear music with a better frequency response than vinyl or tape, my entire music collection, all in my very small iPod.
Yes iPod, it works, why change?
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