News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[eliza61nyc]

I can't believe there are so many opinions on this subject!! Everything in the darn park is make believe why can't we all just pretend that this fits perfectly in Splash's spot and enjoy the new ride. So much energy going into being ****ed about a make believe princess evicting some make believe animals from their home .

lol, I think in reality it's only important to a small percentage of visitors. remember many of the folks here grew up with disney in general playing a big part of their childhood. They watched Wonderful world of disney sunday nights after dinner, Disney vacations were part of their growing up.
I remember the 500+ page thread on the new creperie in France and how evil Disney was because it didn't look like an actually creperie in France.
I have found over the years that the average Joe doesn't really give a flip about this redo.

 

[Haymarket2008]

I think the question will be why is this princess in the Frontierland bayou by the railroad tracks away from all the other ones by the castle. I see this redo causing more issues then it solves. Zootopia or American Legands would have had fit better and actually sent a better message. WDI is going against their own branding by dropping the mountain part of the name. I guess the princesses will be in all lands at Magic Kingdom now. Space mountain is blue cannot wait for Elsas frozen space adventure. Even Universal keeps their minions in a row and they don't even have lands. Sad that laziness and greed are killing Walt's original layout of different lands

Laziness = putting Tiana in Frontierland? I agree. But Zootopia is a “better” fit? That would be infinitely more egregious. Not even in the same universe.

 

[ppete1975]

I don't believe that I've ever seen a mountain in a bayou - so why not just build

Tiana's Bayou Adventure​

somewhere else in the Magic Kingdom. Seems more realistic to me. That way the keep a 'ride' going and add another. Or is there some other reason that they want to eliminate a ride that is based upon Song of the South ???

First was to remove any thing that could be tied to song of the south. Second was that lots of groups wanted song of the south not only replaced but replaced by Tiana. That was a huge thing for years. And disney for the publicity did it. Oddly one of the first times they did what some fans wanted lol. What they should have done, especially with the crowds and universal was...

• create a brer rabbit disney plus show that had nothing to do with song of the south and separate those characters from song of the south (very unlikely this would ever happened)
• Retheme splash to something else.. though pocahontas would have fit well, it will have the same issue eventually if not already. But even a donald duck ride with a western theme and original story would have worked.. or tied it into the story of big thunder
• Then build tiana in a different area as a new ride

the parks need new rides not just retheming.. If splash was an issue thats fine you can retheme.. but dont retheme and not add. Tiana should have been a new custom build with a restaurant, maybe blue bayou style where the restaurant is part of the ride.

 

[WDW Pro]

Because there would still be the problem of a Song of the South connected ride.

This is all about getting rid of all references to Song of the South. So... what do you put in its place?

The replacement had better be marvelous. Because Tokyo and the Oriental Land Company are always going to have Splash Mountain in its original form, working perfectly, shining a light on whatever Disney comes up with. In the words of the Imagineers themselves, this " had better be outstanding.

 

[Tha Realest]

I like all the people suggesting Disney play hardball against the OLC.

WDI’s been copying OLC’s homework for the last decade. No way they spite that golden goose.

 

[King Panda 77]

The replacement had better be marvelous. Because Tokyo and the Oriental Land Company are always going to have Splash Mountain in its original form, working perfectly, shining a light on whatever Disney comes up with. In the words of the Imagineers themselves, this had better be outstanding.

that didn't answer the penguins question.
What do you put in its place ?

 

[Figgy1]

The replacement had better be marvelous. Because Tokyo and the Oriental Land Company are always going to have Splash Mountain in its original form, working perfectly, shining a light on whatever Disney comes up with. In the words of the Imagineers themselves, this had better be outstanding.

What do you mean by the last sentence?

that didn't answer the penguins question.
What do you put in its place ?

^^^This

 

[Kirby86]

Because there would still be the problem of a Song of the South connected ride.

This is all about getting rid of all references to Song of the South. So... what do you put in its place?

Since keeping the current theme is out of the question Princess and the frog works for Disney Land. As for Disney World I will always say a Muppet ride could work. They could fit in a Frontierland setting.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

First was to remove any thing that could be tied to song of the south. Second was that lots of groups wanted song of the south not only replaced but replaced by Tiana. That was a huge thing for years. And disney for the publicity did it. Oddly one of the first times they did what some fans wanted lol. What they should have done, especially with the crowds and universal was...

• create a brer rabbit disney plus show that had nothing to do with song of the south and separate those characters from song of the south (very unlikely this would ever happened)
• Retheme splash to something else.. though pocahontas would have fit well, it will have the same issue eventually if not already. But even a donald duck ride with a western theme and original story would have worked.. or tied it into the story of big thunder
• Then build tiana in a different area as a new ride

the parks need new rides not just retheming.. If splash was an issue thats fine you can retheme.. but dont retheme and not add. Tiana should have been a new custom build with a restaurant, maybe blue bayou style where the restaurant is part of the ride.

Yeah this. If the characters and music lived on somehow, I wouldn't have any problems with the retheme.

 

[Touchdown]

The replacement in mk should have been coco…

 

[tanc]

Splash Mountain may also get revamp at Tokyo Disneyland | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis

www.asahi.com

An Oriental Land representative said the company was aware of the proposed change for the U.S. amusement parks, adding that at this point, only consideration was being given about what to do with the ride at the Tokyo park.

This was 2 years ago and kinda buried, but it seems like nothing ever came to fruition. I would expect it to be due to the design of Tokyo Splash more than anything, as I stated it's designed completely different than the others. It would by far likely be the hardest to retheme due to its intricate design.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

I’m sure they meant within the parks.

Yeah. Also, I don't have a problem with Tiana???? I like PatF.

I feel like people just have an incredibly hostile script for those against the retheme. We should be kind, this is a Disney forum.

 

[LittleBuford]

I don't believe that I've ever seen a mountain in a bayou

Note that the existing SotS-themed version is also described as taking place on a bayou:

Gently drift through a colorful Southern bayou along with happy-go-lucky Br’er Rabbit as he looks for his “laughing place.” But be warned: Br’er Bear and Br’er Fox are in hot pursuit of this wayward hare.​

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https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/attractions/magic-kingdom/splash-mountain/

It’s strange to me that people are looking for realism in a ride that has never had any.

 

[GimpYancIent]

First was to remove any thing that could be tied to song of the south. Second was that lots of groups wanted song of the south not only replaced but replaced by Tiana. That was a huge thing for years. And disney for the publicity did it. Oddly one of the first times they did what some fans wanted lol. What they should have done, especially with the crowds and universal was...

• create a brer rabbit disney plus show that had nothing to do with song of the south and separate those characters from song of the south (very unlikely this would ever happened)
• Retheme splash to something else.. though pocahontas would have fit well, it will have the same issue eventually if not already. But even a donald duck ride with a western theme and original story would have worked.. or tied it into the story of big thunder
• Then build tiana in a different area as a new ride

the parks need new rides not just retheming.. If splash was an issue thats fine you can retheme.. but dont retheme and not add. Tiana should have been a new custom build with a restaurant, maybe blue bayou style where the restaurant is part of the ride.

Restaurant! Yes! Boudoin, Gumbo, Crawfish Etouffee, red Beans and Rice mmmmmm, of course wash things down with a Hurricane. Hey, a little spice never hurt anyone.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Note that the existing SotS-themed version is also described as taking place on a bayou:

Gently drift through a colorful Southern bayou along with happy-go-lucky Br’er Rabbit as he looks for his “laughing place.” But be warned: Br’er Bear and Br’er Fox are in hot pursuit of this wayward hare.​

​

https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/attractions/magic-kingdom/splash-mountain/

It’s strange to me that people are looking for realism in a ride that has never had any.

It seems many people will be apoplectic when they discover the impossible journey through rivers on entirely different continents that Disney expects guests to swallow on the Jungle Cruise next-door in Adventureland. Not to mention that the docks are located opposite Polynesian ceremonial buildings sitting next to a Middle Eastern marketplace.

 

[cranbiz]

And now that it will become a bayou, those pesky alligators that occasionally wonder onto the outside of SM, can now fit right in without batting an eye…maybe in the ride itself…

This is brilliant! Walt always wanted to work with live animals. Allow the live alligators into the ride, it's a win win. Cost savings all around.

Just don't relocate Ginger, she snaps.

 

[Kirby86]

Splash Mountain may also get revamp at Tokyo Disneyland | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis

www.asahi.com

An Oriental Land representative said the company was aware of the proposed change for the U.S. amusement parks, adding that at this point, only consideration was being given about what to do with the ride at the Tokyo park.

This was 2 years ago and kinda buried, but it seems like nothing ever came to fruition. I would expect it to be due to the design of Tokyo Splash more than anything, as I stated it's designed completely different than the others. It would by far likely be the hardest to retheme due to its intricate design.

I think that was more likely than not OLC being polite to a buisness partner.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I like all the people suggesting Disney play hardball against the OLC.

WDI’s been copying OLC’s homework for the last decade. No way they spite that golden goose.

. . . WDI designs and creates every attraction in Tokyo Disneyland.

The difference is that the OLC pays for all the attractions in Tokyo, and Disney pays for the attractions everywhere else. OLC doesn't hold the purse strings as tightly as Disney does, and Disney has at times benefited from essentially being able to let WDI use Tokyo as a proving ground for tech that Disney isn't willing to experiment with on their own dime. Tokyo has caught on to this, and isn't thrilled about it.

How this relates to Splash Mountain and Tiana's Bayou Adventure, if it does at all, isn't completely clear. I think it may be as simple as the OLC having a number of big expensive projects in the works, and more projects forthcoming, so Splash Mountain registers to them as "if it ain't broke . . ." - consider that they're preparing to totally rebuild their Space Mountain and begin a massive overhaul of Tomorrowland. The idea of closing another massive E-Ticket in that park for a big, expensive overhaul that will take perhaps two years to finish probably isn't appealing when they have so many other major developments already on the horizon, especially after the past decade where they've already invested quite heavily in their parks.

 

[ppete1975]

Splash Mountain may also get revamp at Tokyo Disneyland | The Asahi Shimbun: Breaking News, Japan News and Analysis

www.asahi.com

An Oriental Land representative said the company was aware of the proposed change for the U.S. amusement parks, adding that at this point, only consideration was being given about what to do with the ride at the Tokyo park.

This was 2 years ago and kinda buried, but it seems like nothing ever came to fruition. I would expect it to be due to the design of Tokyo Splash more than anything, as I stated it's designed completely different than the others. It would by far likely be the hardest to retheme due to its intricate design.

IF they come up with something amazing that people demand we might copy it, outside of that we are good with what we have.

 

[ppete1975]

It seems many people will be apoplectic when they discover the impossible journey through rivers on entirely different continents that Disney expects guests to swallow on the Jungle Cruise next-door in Adventureland. Not to mention that the docks are located opposite Polynesian ceremonial buildings sitting next to a Middle Eastern marketplace.

well adventureland was never supposed to be a place, it was the land of adventure.....

So all the stories about adventure from around the world come together in an amalgamation. When Disneyland was started anything that wasnt american was exotic. Its only with cable tv, air travel being more prevalent and the internet that the world has gotten smaller. National geographic magazine was peoples window to the world for decades. Heck even world showcase was exciting and educational as most people hadnt traveled and that was the early 80s.