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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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Walt Disney1955

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So does anyone think they would change their course here? The Princess and the Frog attraction still comes in somewhere but they manage to quietly keep Splash open? I honestly am wondering about this whole thing. Is Disney really going to permanently shutter something that is perhaps top 3 among the most beloved attractions? If so, that's just scary.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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So does anyone think they would change their course here?
No Way Meme GIF


The ENTIRE POINT is to do away with Splash Mountain as we know it. Every additional move comes second to that.

Say goodbye.
 

Walt Disney1955

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No Way Meme GIF


The ENTIRE POINT is to do away with Splash Mountain as we know it. Every additional move comes second to that.

Say goodbye.

Here is the thing. June 2020 was a long time ago. It has been over two years and the ride is still flourishing. It is a very bad business decision or at least from a creative perspective to take away one of your crown jewels.. People aren't as mad about the Splash thing as they should be. It is a creative nightmare for a once very creative company.

Plus, having the ride still operate with no end date makes me think the longer it goes the more chances there are that it gets reversed and it stays. Surely there are people with common sense in Disney and there is at least a bit of a power struggle.
 

Disney Analyst

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Here is the thing. June 2020 was a long time ago. It has been over two years and the ride is still flourishing. It is a very bad business decision or at least from a creative perspective to take away one of your crown jewels. It also sets a bad precedent. There are loads of woke people that don't like things about Pirates. How close are we to having that close down because of the offense someone might have to Johnny Depp's character being on that ride? Or whatever that may be. People aren't as mad about the Splash thing as they should be. It is a creative nightmare for a once very creative company.

Plus, having the ride still operate with no end date makes me think the longer it goes the more chances there are that it gets reversed and it stays. Surely there are people with common sense in Disney and there is at least a bit of a power struggle.

They legit just announced the new attraction will be open late 2024, on both coasts, it will be called Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, and they released concept art for Tiana’s new adventure look to go with the attraction.

It was announced at Essence Fest, and you can see the details on Disney Park Blog.




Some are thinking the ride will close likely in January.
 

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No
We have no idea what quality the new version will be. Perhaps you’ll be pleasantly surprised.
Well, the ideas that we do have aren't promising. Hopefully they're all wrong ideas.

I personally believe they will do a good job, and it will be incredibly cute, fun, vibrant, and joyful.
What is the reason for your optimism? What if they remove a large number of animatronics? And if they don't, will they suddenly start maintaining the attraction once it's rethemed? What if the storyline is simplistic and not exciting?

There's a lot of ways in which this ride could go wrong. Of course it's all speculation, but I'm genuinely curious what makes you so optimistic.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Here is the thing. June 2020 was a long time ago. It has been over two years and the ride is still flourishing. It is a very bad business decision or at least from a creative perspective to take away one of your crown jewels. It also sets a bad precedent. There are loads of woke people that don't like things about Pirates. How close are we to having that close down because of the offense someone might have to Johnny Depp's character being on that ride? Or whatever that may be. People aren't as mad about the Splash thing as they should be. It is a creative nightmare for a once very creative company.

Plus, having the ride still operate with no end date makes me think the longer it goes the more chances there are that it gets reversed and it stays. Surely there are people with common sense in Disney and there is at least a bit of a power struggle.
"Common sense" is not nearly as common as people think. Clearly.

You know not of what you speak.
 

Disney Analyst

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Well, the ideas that we do have aren't promising. Hopefully they're all wrong ideas.


What is the reason for your optimism? What if they remove a large number of animatronics? And if they don't, will they suddenly start maintaining the attraction once it's rethemed? What if the storyline is simplistic and not exciting?

There's a lot of ways in which this ride could go wrong. Of course it's all speculation, but I'm genuinely curious what makes you so optimistic.

Because the world is too negative as it is to dwell in negativity before the ride has hatched.

I also believe PatF is a strong IP with a gorgeous art direction, and that the team working on it is passionate and wants to do it well.

Do I suspect less AAs? Yes. Will it bother me? That depends on how they design the new scenes and how the story unfolds.

Less AAs does not mean the ride is a failure.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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Disney is cheap and cheap enough to get rid of a timeless attraction that
It's not inexpensive to retheme a ride. It's not cheap. No matter how many times you say "it's cheap," we all know it's not.

SotS references are going away. Period.

Making them go away costs money when you have to put something else in its place. It's not cheap.
 

Disney Analyst

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It's not inexpensive to retheme a ride. It's not cheap. No matter how many times you say "it's cheap," we all know it's not.

SotS references are going away. Period.

Making them go away costs money when you have to put something else in its place. It's not cheap.

Very true. Cheapest option was to do nothing.

Which was clearly not an option in Disney’s eyes.
 

BuzzedPotatoHead89

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The goal of the modern WDC as determined by CEO Bob Chapek and the board right now is to promote Disney+ and increase subscriptions while simultaneously driving parks attendance. It’s why the opening of this attraction is also tied loosely to the new Tiana show in 2024 which is likely to be a new franchise.



And if a film can’t stream on Disney+, the company’s virtual library of the 21st century, it’s not worth it’s weight in Disney dollars under Chapek and co. There is no secret agenda here. Just old fashioned corporate synergy and money making that would make Scrooge McDuck proud.
 
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Vegas Disney Fan

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Disney has been actively adjusting rides with problematic areas. Splash was always on the list.

This is what it boils down too, Jungle Cruise, Pirates… now it’s Splashes turn, Disney made a decision to get ahead of potential issus before they became actual issues, no conspiracy theory needed.

I love Splash but as long as they do the retheme well I get it and won’t care, I’m just worried they won’t do it well.

I’m hoping Splash is where they draw the line though, a lot of the older Disney movies have racially insensitive scenes, if guilty by association is cause for removal Dumbo, Fantasia, and some other classics might need to watch their back.
 

Disney Analyst

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This is what it boils down too, Jungle Cruise, Pirates… now it’s Splashes turn, Disney made a decision to get ahead of potential issus before they became actual issues, no conspiracy theory needed.

I love Splash but as long as they do the retheme well I get it and won’t care, I’m just worried they won’t do it well.

I’m hoping Splash is where they draw the line though, a lot of the older Disney movies have racially insensitive scenes, if guilty by association is cause for removal Dumbo, Fantasia, and some other classics might need to watch their back.

I think the next may be some small adjustments to Pan.
 

Californian Elitist

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Isn’t that what Snow White got also? I think the academy award with the 7 mini statues was honorary also.
Yes, Snow White received an honorary Oscar for its achievement in animation for a full-length film, which was unheard of at the time. The Oscars didn’t add the Best Animated Feature category until 2002, which is crazy to think about now. Beauty and the Beast is the first animated film to be nominated for Best Picture, followed by Up and Toy Story 3.

Disney has a history of wonderful firsts and great achievements in film. I wish they’d make another great live-action movie already. They haven’t made an Oscar-worthy live-action since Curse of the Black Pearl, which will be 20-years-old next year. It’s time.
 
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