BuddyThomas
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Well, Splash will live for eternity in endless YouTube videos, so there’s the museum.He's said that but also that "Disneyland will sometimes be a museum".
Well, Splash will live for eternity in endless YouTube videos, so there’s the museum.He's said that but also that "Disneyland will sometimes be a museum".
Hasn’t this question already been answered and responded to multiple times?Let’s stick to Splash. What is the reason for the refurbishment?
you’re entitled to your own opinion, as is your prerogative.
Let’s stick to Splash. What is the reason for the refurbishment?
Disney does not have the ability to simply close Splash Mountain in Tokyo Disneyland because they do not own or run that park. They license their properties to a company that owns and operates the parks in Tokyo, and Disney has vested interest in closing all of the Splash Mountains. That the Tokyo version isn't closing suggests that they do not have the ability to just close that one - perhaps there's some contractual peculiarity there with the OLC.
I wonder if Disney can jack up the license fees for only the Song of the south elements thereby forcing Tokyo to close and re theme?Disney does not have the ability to simply close Splash Mountain in Tokyo Disneyland because they do not own or run that park. They license their properties to a company that owns and operates the parks in Tokyo, and Disney has vested interest in closing all of the Splash Mountains. That the Tokyo version isn't closing suggests that they do not have the ability to just close that one - perhaps there's some contractual peculiarity there with the OLC. But they want the ride dead and buried worldwide, and they could have saved money on Tiana's Bayou Adventure by sharing costs with Tokyo had they said yes to turning their Splash into it, so this doesn't seem to be an example of them picking and choosing. They would break through that wall if they could because they know it would make them money and that it would help them look better in this situation.
What is the purpose for the refurbishment?Because Disney said so.
The fact that they aren't doing that seems to suggest they can't - because like I said, they they have no vested interest in keeping Splash Mountain open anywhere, since the characters make them basically no money, and they would have saved money on the refurbishment by doing Tiana's Bayou Adventure as a joint project with OLC. We have it on good authority that OLC shot down Disney's proposal to turn Splash into Tiana in Tokuo, which would indicate that OLC can do that regardless of what Disney wants.I have been thinking about this lately. As Disney licenses to OLC, could they not pull the license for the Splash / SOTS Characters and music, forcing OLC to redo the attraction?
It would seem like an unnecessarily hostile move by Disney to force OLC to subsidise this by withdrawing permission for licensing the characters for Splash Mountain even if they could. Insiders have already suggested there was some annoyance from OLC that they were being used to fund R&D for Disney's other parks, so presumably this would have turned relations toxic.The fact that they aren't doing that seems to suggest they can't - because like I said, they they have no vested interest in keeping Splash Mountain open anywhere, since the characters make them basically no money, and they would have saved money on the refurbishment by doing Tiana's Bayou Adventure as a joint project with OLC. We have it on good authority that OLC shot down Disney's proposal to turn Splash into Tiana in Tokuo, which would indicate that OLC can do that regardless of what Disney wants.
Perhaps they've licensed the Brer's for x amount of years and that number isn't up yet.
Also, SotS may be public domain in Japan.It would seem like an unnecessarily hostile move by Disney to force OLC to subsidise this by withdrawing permission for licensing the characters for Splash Mountain even if they could. Insiders have already suggested there was some annoyance from OLC that they were being used to fund R&D for Disney's other parks, so presumably this would have turned relations toxic.
I already said no.> Saying the park will "sometimes" be "a museum of living facts" is not the same as saying "we should choose selectively to keep things the way they are, even when we recognize the problems with them". Splash Mountain and Song of the South are not "living facts".
Ok, but... did I say this? The second sentence is incredibly uncalled for and childish. Ironic.
The fact that the OLC isn't changing their splash tells me one thing. Obviously Disney went to them and made some sort of presentation about what the new ride would be. And since the OLC said no, they obviously weren't impressed enough to consider it. And that doesn't instill any confidence in this redo for me.Disney has vested interest in closing all of the Splash Mountains. That the Tokyo version isn't closing suggests that they do not have the ability to just close that one - perhaps there's some contractual peculiarity there with the OLC. But they want the ride dead and buried worldwide, and they could have saved money on Tiana's Bayou Adventure by sharing costs with Tokyo had they said yes to turning their Splash into it,
OLC has a number of places they're spending their money these days, and lots of it - it's entirely possible they just didn't want to close and pour more money into an attraction that is, in their eyes, already very successful.The fact that the OLC isn't changing their splash tells me one thing. Obviously Disney went to them and made some sort of presentation about what the new ride would be. And since the OLC said no, they obviously weren't impressed enough to consider it. And that doesn't instill any confidence in this redo for me.
I don't think we can deny that Splash Mountain in every park has been a "very successful" attraction. Disney is choosing to retheme one of their most successful, if not one of the highest rated, attractions in their US Parks. They are also choosing to spend a ton of money to do so. I tend to think there was a contingent within the company that was wishing they could backtrack out of this. Unfortunately, they can't.OLC has a number of places they're spending their money these days, and lots of it - it's entirely possible they just didn't want to close and pour more money into an attraction that is, in their eyes, already very successful.
That may have something to do with it but also Princess and the Frog isn't popular in Japan. Granted it wasn't exactly a hit Here but Tiana is a princess so I'm sure merchandise with her on it sells well.The fact that the OLC isn't changing their splash tells me one thing. Obviously Disney went to them and made some sort of presentation about what the new ride would be. And since the OLC said no, they obviously weren't impressed enough to consider it. And that doesn't instill any confidence in this redo for me.
I truly dont remember but was PaTF even a big hit for Disney? Did it draw numbers like some of the other classics that received rides/attractions right away or as close to it as Disney possible….Disney sees $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ with the newly redesigned princess gift shop
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