News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[eliza61nyc]

Well, if you think screens are awesome and audio animatronics are stupid and old fashioned, you’ll probably love it…as a matter of fact, there’s a group on here that even if the quality is a solid D compared to Splash, they will NEVER admit it.

I think it maybe that quality can be subjective. I hated the great movie ride, I thought it was dull, boring and loathed the cheesy cm interactive thing. So I was beyond happy when they got rid of it (JUST my opinion) so the animatronics imo have not much to do with it. I love pirates. Screens don't bother me and are not inherently bad, neither do animatronics ,which are not imo inherently good. I will say I'm not a fan of old fashioned.

now the last statement can definitely go both ways. there are some old guard here that no matter how good the ride is they will never ever like it because it's not from the golden age of Disney. no matter what the world does the old guard are not going to be happy, the complaints will always range from "it doesn't fit into the theme of XYS, it has screens or we need more rides not renovations".

 

[Smiley/OCD]

I think it maybe that quality can be subjective. I hated the great movie ride, I thought it was dull, boring and loathed the cheesy cm interactive thing. So I was beyond happy when they got rid of it (JUST my opinion) so the animatronics imo have not much to do with it. I love pirates. Screens don't bother me and are not inherently bad, neither do animatronics ,which are not imo inherently good. I will say I'm not a fan of old fashioned

No, I agree with you that screens, if done tastefully and in conjunction with other effects including AA’s are fine…I happen to like Na’vi RJ and Ratatouille…I DON’T like MMRR…IMO, it’s just too screen heavy but that’s me…I just REALLY hope they are able to reuse a majority of the SM animatronics, but hey, I know and understand that none of us will be totally happy with whatever ends up being the finished product…some like Geno’s, some like Pat’s, I like Jersey shore cheesesteaks…that’s what makes the world go ‘round. Lol

 

[Smiley/OCD]

I also hate the new face projections on the FEA animatronics…they just seem TO ME as being half a**ed attempts to satisfy both the AA and protection camps.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I also hate the new face projections on the FEA animatronics…they just seem TO ME as being half a**ed attempts to satisfy both the AA and protection camps.

I think they may be done with that AA type? I think BATB in Tokyo is what we should expect in terms of the main characters.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I have a question, when people say 'Screens' these days. What do they mean or think will be installed?

A claustrophobic tunnel of LED TV panels.

 

[tanc]

Screen Mountain I really hope won't be a thing but I really just want to see how Disney will do it. Will they slap on new paint? The hand sculpted design seems like nightmare to work with. No one knows how this will go except Disney. Even then I'm sure there will be plenty of obstacles in the way. The ride is approaching 40 years old and hasnt been majorly renovated in over 10 years.


I wouldn't be surprised if it approaches $200 million. They presumably are also adding the boat and that's going to be adding the boat on top of the mountain. I'm also curious as to if they will do both at the same time. To me, that sounds disastrous because the quality can be tainted due to inconsistent teams.

 

[𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇]

That was the estimate for WDW but also includes the surrounding areas that need theming as well.

Not terible but not great either. A conservative guestimate would be similar to what it cost to retrofit Frozen from Maelstrom.

I have a question, when people say 'Screens' these days. What do they mean or think will be installed?

I fully suspect the attraction will use projection mapping to expand vistas, add to the scenes, create interesting lighting / scenic dynamics. It's a modern redo, I hope it utilizes projections, it's what I expect these days. Projection technology when used correctly is STUNNING.

But I am not expecting Tiana on a screen talking to me instead of an AA.

So again, when people say "Screens" - are you saying you don't want any projection tech?

What does it mean...

Digital flats. TVs and rear projected backdrops with frame or rect. shape usually hidden by props or rockwork.

 

[Anteater]

I also hate the new face projections on the FEA animatronics…they just seem TO ME as being half a**ed attempts to satisfy both the AA and protection camps.

I like the projected faces in several AA's I've seen. Buzz is good. So are the dwarfs. The only downside is when they're not working, it produces some scary stuff!

 

[Disney Analyst]

"Screens", like "woke" and "cheap", is part of the vocabulary of kneejerk pessimism surrounding such projects. I don't think people use it with much thought.

I think when people say 'Screens' they must think about rides that do indeed park you in front of a screen for a portion or all the ride.

But we already know that won't happen, as we already know the ride layout/movement. We will be sailing past fully realized scenes, with projection mapping at most utilized.

Perhaps they'll throw in some projection moments live in Navi River Journey.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I think when people say 'Screens' they must think about rides that do indeed park you in front of a screen for a portion or all the ride.

But we already know that won't happen, as we already know the ride layout/movement. We will be sailing past fully realized scenes, with projection mapping at most utilized.

Perhaps they'll throw in some projection moments live in Navi River Journey.

OR... hear me out... move Star Tours to replace Splash Mountain and simulate a bayou ride and drop!!

 

[Disney Analyst]

OR... hear me out... move Star Tours to replace Splash Mountain and simulate a bayou ride and drop!!

That's the ticket!

 

[Smiley/OCD]

I like the projected faces in several AA's I've seen. Buzz is good. So are the dwarfs. The only downside is when they're not working, it produces some scary stuff!

Hurry baaaaack… lol

 

[Anteater]

I think when people say 'Screens' they must think about rides that do indeed park you in front of a screen for a portion or all the ride.

But we already know that won't happen, as we already know the ride layout/movement. We will be sailing past fully realized scenes, with projection mapping at most utilized.

Perhaps they'll throw in some projection moments live in Navi River Journey.

Well, we've got the lame GoTG screens on the launch. So, it's not unprecedented...

 

[larryz]

How would a ride with a story that takes place in 1920s New Orleans fit on Main Street or in Liberty Square?

New Orleans has a Meyn Street, and a Liberty Terrace as well.

Close enough for Imagineer work, I'd say...

 

[larryz]

I'm more concerned about the fact that there aren't mountains in the bayou than how the ride fits into Frontierland or Critter Country.

Just think of the mountain as a very tall levee.

 

[mysto]

Screens!

 

[Animaniac93-98]

but $150 mil is still an encouraging number.

Now that we know what their most expensive ride ever looks like, I'm no longer swayed one way or the other on how I feel about projects when budget estimates get speculated about. Just throwing money at a project doesn't guarantee its success anymore, unfortunately.

It wouldn't surprise me if a not insignificant amount of that money went to recording all new music and dialog for everything inside and out. It's one of the reasons why Disney likes to recycle music across fireworks and stage shows.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

This is what it boils down too, Jungle Cruise, Pirates… now it’s Splashes turn, Disney made a decision to get ahead of potential issus before they became actual issues, no conspiracy theory needed.

I love Splash but as long as they do the retheme well I get it and won’t care, I’m just worried they won’t do it well.

I’m hoping Splash is where they draw the line though, a lot of the older Disney movies have racially insensitive scenes, if guilty by association is cause for removal Dumbo, Fantasia, and some other classics might need to watch their back.

I don't know how you can mess up the ride that Princess and the Frog will have. That isn't the problem, it is likely to be a good ride, I am guessing. The problem is that it won't be better than Splash. So we are losing on quality all for the almighty dollar. Screens will be cheaper to operate than animatronics. Splash is the rare attraction at Disney that is as beloved as it is that did not have Walt's fingerprints on it, other than it being based on the movie.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The problem is that it won't be better than Splash. So we are losing on quality all for the almighty dollar. Screens will be cheaper to operate than animatronics.

Since you've just come back from the future with a report on how the retheme went, can you tell me tomorrow's Lotto numbers?

 

[Walt Disney1955]

Since you've just come back from the future with a report on how the retheme went, can you tell me tomorrow's Lotto numbers?

It is highly unlikely that a ride that is nearly universally thought to be top 3 in the entire WDW resort is going to be improved upon. I think as WDW fans who like to attend there we have a legitimate gripe about modern Disney. Think about how much Pooh gets slammed because of the attractions it replaced (Country Bears at DL, Toad at WDW) and those were nice attractions but not all-time great ones. They are getting rid of an all-time great attraction that has never been without insane line ups for its 30 year existence. It isn't good from a fan standpoint.