News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[MagicHappens1971]

In our lifetimes a lot of things Disney are going to go public domain, starting with Mickey in 2024 (although I suspect Disney will be able to retain his trademark as well as the fab 5 due to the “intresinically linked to the company clause” movie characters start falling out 10 years after that, and perhaps with the exception of Tink they are going to have a hard time blocking those. The world is about to change, Disney fought tooth and nail to extend trademarks in the past but there is a big public resistance to do so again.

Trademarks never expire. Copyright does. Someone will be able to use steamboat willie in his original form (but not for merchandising and etc) because the character itself is trademarked

 

[EagleScout610]

@The Mom

 

[Ghost93]

Trademarks never expire. Copyright does. Someone will be able to use steamboat willie in his original form (but not for merchandising and etc) because the character itself is trademarked

Yeah, anything that Disney still uses for merchandising will be trademarked, so I think Mickey and the Disney Princesses are protected.

Although I guess the Song of the South fans on this thread should be happy because I don't see Disney trademarking that film, Uncle Remus, Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah or Brer Rabbit — so those may be repurposed in the 2040s.

 

[MagicHappens1971]

Yeah, anything that Disney still uses for merchandising will be trademarked, so I think Mickey and the Disney Princesses are protected.

Although I guess the Song of the South fans on this thread should be happy because I don't see Disney trademarking that film, Uncle Remus, Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah or Brer Rabbit — so those may be repurposed in the 2040s.

Yea I believe Disney has all if not almost all of its characters trademarked

 

[Ghost93]

Yea I believe Disney has all if not almost all of its characters trademarked

Here is a link to the trademarks Disney has: Disney Trademarks

Splash Mountain is trademarked, but I couldn't find any trademarks for Song of the South.

 

[UNCgolf]

I believe you. I had my mom buy me a WDW picture book when I was a kid decades ago and a lot of what’s there now was not in that book. It’s not a good thing.

Same, I don’t have plans either. My sister wants to go to France and Italy next summer for her 30th birthday. She wants to go to DLP, so of course I would go, but that’s the only reason why. If I was planning my own first trip to France, DLP would never be on my radar.

Yeah, I spent nearly a week in Paris a few years ago and the thought of going to DLP never even crossed my mind.

It looks beautiful and I would like to potentially visit it some day, but there are so, so many things I'd rather see/do in and around Paris first (not to mention France as a whole) that it's hard for me to imagine I'll ever make it.

 

[UNCgolf]

Personal opinion, 3 parks are better / moving in the right direction. 1 Park is significantly worse.

I could see that argument in terms of attractions. As I said above, DHS has more/better attractions overall now than it did in the mid-1990s, even with the massive hit it took from the loss of GMR. They've just given up on so much theme in other areas, though, especially the shops. They used to have significant theming and unique merchandise that is now close to homogenous across all parks.

Losing stuff like Sid Cahuenga's at DHS was a blow to the whole theme of that park. It was a more interesting place to explore then than now, at least for me.

Animal Kingdom is the only park that I think is clearly the best it's ever been right now. EPCOT is clearly worse. Magic Kingdom and DHS are arguable, and probably depends on how much someone cares about attractions versus everything else.

EDIT: For EPCOT, it's still hard to believe how little we are getting for what they spent. Guardians seems like a fine attraction, and Ratatouille is nice as a net add, but neither will be a top 10 attraction at WDW for me and EPCOT used to have several. Even if someone thinks Guardians and Rat are among the best rides at WDW, though, EPCOT as a whole will still have nowhere near as much to do as it did 30 years ago.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Yeah, I spent nearly a week in Paris a few years ago and the thought of going to DLP never even crossed my mind.

It looks beautiful and I would like to potentially visit it some day, but there are so, so many things I'd rather see/do in and around Paris first (not to mention Paris as a whole) that it's hard for me to imagine I'll ever make it.

Amen. I’m in the same boat. I’m a very cultural person and love exploring other cultures, historical monuments, museums, etc. I only went to MK because I was in town for a friend’s bachelorette party and thought I might as well stop by for a day. I’m not a Disney theme park fan, nor am I a theme park fan. For these reasons, I would never, ever travel to a different country to specifically visit a theme park, especially if it’s a first-time visit. You’ll find me at Versailles, Louvre, and even a random alleyway in a quaint French town before you’ll catch me at DLP.

For the record, I’m not bashing Disney theme parks. Like you, I just value so many other things. If I eventually get to the other theme parks, great. If not, great.

 

[Haymarket2008]

I am thrilled a lot of you aren’t Imagineers with your Coco and Zootopia. SMH.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

So does anyone think they would change their course here? The Princess and the Frog attraction still comes in somewhere but they manage to quietly keep Splash open? I honestly am wondering about this whole thing. Is Disney really going to permanently shutter something that is perhaps top 3 among the most beloved attractions? If so, that's just scary.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

So does anyone think they would change their course here?

The ENTIRE POINT is to do away with Splash Mountain as we know it. Every additional move comes second to that.

Say goodbye.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

The ENTIRE POINT is to do away with Splash Mountain as we know it. Every additional move comes second to that.

Say goodbye.

Here is the thing. June 2020 was a long time ago. It has been over two years and the ride is still flourishing. It is a very bad business decision or at least from a creative perspective to take away one of your crown jewels.. People aren't as mad about the Splash thing as they should be. It is a creative nightmare for a once very creative company.

Plus, having the ride still operate with no end date makes me think the longer it goes the more chances there are that it gets reversed and it stays. Surely there are people with common sense in Disney and there is at least a bit of a power struggle.

 

[LittleBuford]

Here is the thing. June 2020 was a long time ago. It has been over two years and the ride is still flourishing.

You may have missed it, but they’ve just announced a new timeline for the retheme, confirming once and for all that it’s happening.

 

[Walt Disney1955]

They’re not going to change their mind. Disney wants nothing to do with SotS. Splash is going.

That's really sad though. It just shows you how far they've fallen and how quality takes a back seat.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Here is the thing. June 2020 was a long time ago. It has been over two years and the ride is still flourishing. It is a very bad business decision or at least from a creative perspective to take away one of your crown jewels. It also sets a bad precedent. There are loads of woke people that don't like things about Pirates. How close are we to having that close down because of the offense someone might have to Johnny Depp's character being on that ride? Or whatever that may be. People aren't as mad about the Splash thing as they should be. It is a creative nightmare for a once very creative company.

Plus, having the ride still operate with no end date makes me think the longer it goes the more chances there are that it gets reversed and it stays. Surely there are people with common sense in Disney and there is at least a bit of a power struggle.

They legit just announced the new attraction will be open late 2024, on both coasts, it will be called Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, and they released concept art for Tiana’s new adventure look to go with the attraction.

It was announced at Essence Fest, and you can see the details on Disney Park Blog.

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure Coming to Disney Parks in Late 2024

Strike up the band because we’ve saved a seat for you on this musical journey with Tiana and friends! The name of the new attraction evolving from the reimagining of Splash Mountain was announced today during ESSENCE Fest in New Orleans: Tiana’s

disneyparks.disney.go.com

Some are thinking the ride will close likely in January.

 

[LittleBuford]

That's really sad though. It just shows you how far they've fallen and how quality takes a back seat.

We have no idea what quality the new version will be. Perhaps you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

 

[Disney Analyst]

We have no idea what quality the new version will be. Perhaps you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

I personally believe they will do a good job, and it will be incredibly cute, fun, vibrant, and joyful.

I also believe many on here have already made up their minds and will hate it.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

We have no idea what quality the new version will be. Perhaps you’ll be pleasantly surprised.

Well, the ideas that we do have aren't promising. Hopefully they're all wrong ideas.

I personally believe they will do a good job, and it will be incredibly cute, fun, vibrant, and joyful.

What is the reason for your optimism? What if they remove a large number of animatronics? And if they don't, will they suddenly start maintaining the attraction once it's rethemed? What if the storyline is simplistic and not exciting?

There's a lot of ways in which this ride could go wrong. Of course it's all speculation, but I'm genuinely curious what makes you so optimistic.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

Here is the thing. June 2020 was a long time ago. It has been over two years and the ride is still flourishing. It is a very bad business decision or at least from a creative perspective to take away one of your crown jewels. It also sets a bad precedent. There are loads of woke people that don't like things about Pirates. How close are we to having that close down because of the offense someone might have to Johnny Depp's character being on that ride? Or whatever that may be. People aren't as mad about the Splash thing as they should be. It is a creative nightmare for a once very creative company.

Plus, having the ride still operate with no end date makes me think the longer it goes the more chances there are that it gets reversed and it stays. Surely there are people with common sense in Disney and there is at least a bit of a power struggle.

"Common sense" is not nearly as common as people think. Clearly.

You know not of what you speak.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Well, the ideas that we do have aren't promising. Hopefully they're all wrong ideas.


What is the reason for your optimism? What if they remove a large number of animatronics? And if they don't, will they suddenly start maintaining the attraction once it's rethemed? What if the storyline is simplistic and not exciting?

There's a lot of ways in which this ride could go wrong. Of course it's all speculation, but I'm genuinely curious what makes you so optimistic.

Because the world is too negative as it is to dwell in negativity before the ride has hatched.

I also believe PatF is a strong IP with a gorgeous art direction, and that the team working on it is passionate and wants to do it well.

Do I suspect less AAs? Yes. Will it bother me? That depends on how they design the new scenes and how the story unfolds.

Less AAs does not mean the ride is a failure.