The Visionary Soul
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None, it’s looking less and less likely that the Florida conversion will happen as planned.
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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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Disgruntled Walt
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Wait, so you're saying Splash might stay in FL? How is that possible from a PR standpoint? I mean, I'm all for keeping the Brers as is, but I just want to clarify so I don't get my hopes up unnecessarily.
So... a DVC tower in its place?
Animaniac93-98
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"We are exploring other options to give meaningful representation in our attractions"
That's it.
Animaniac93-98
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Does that mean Florida would get something else besides PatF, or just be left as is?
Haymarket2008
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Western. River. Expedition. Let’s GOOOO.
I've said this from the start, if DL gets the remake and it just kinda fades in Orlando it wouldn't shock me
Zootopia confirmed for Magic Kingdom.
Ghost93
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You are incredibly naive if you think the media would allow Disney to get away with that. If the retheme is canceled and Splash remains open, you will see A LOT of clickbaity articles about "Disney chooses to keep RACIST ride open!"
Animaniac93-98
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I'm not naive.
Any clickbait online drama will be forgotten by most within a week and only perpetuated by those who never intended to go to WDW.
I was at Disneyland last year and overheard people who were surprised to find out it was changing. There's still a lack of awareness about the makeover, even among Disney parks guests.
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Brer Oswald
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Disney controls the narrative on this one, so I’m not so sure that is exactly the case. However, in order to keep it, they would have to admit that the way they handled Brer Rabbit for the last 30 years was wrong, and how they should’ve created a more culturally appropriate film adaptation of those stories years ago.
Additionally, it would be difficult to justify the conversion in Disneyland if they admit that their assessment on the Brer Rabbit stories was incorrect. So I’d imagine that they are either looking for a different marketable theme for Florida to convince Tokyo (Zootopia?), or that this version will just be put off for a bit longer than planned.
Animaniac93-98
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Or we keep getting stories about how "these things take time" etc and they never admit it's cancelled and it just goes on like it has the last two years...
Sirwalterraleigh
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Splash is a completely different ride in Orlando. The layout and system is different as it was a completely new, high capacity build.
It makes more sense to do some other theme and have “two different rides” in Anaheim and Orlando.
And since they have no intention of building desperately needed capacity in magic kingdom…it makes more sense NOT to do a Princess draw.
Don’t forget princesses are starting to get critics as well…and that’s only going to intensify.
The impossible dream
…but not a bad option Just no AA cowboy and Ingin shootout scene
Sirwalterraleigh
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Based on the current “cultural environment”…they’re better off just leaving it alone or doing some of “eco-ride”…
I don’t want slave references - at all - in parks. But worrying about song of the south is the classic case of mining the past for current outrage.
It’s bears, bunnies, and a fox chasing each other…no one has even seen that movie in about 30 years in the US.
Let it go, Elsa
Brer Oswald
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I think it’s more than just a story about a bunny. There is definite historical and cultural significance to it. But I don’t think it, nor the 1946 Disney adaptation of it, is as malicious as the company under Iger has made it out to be.
The attraction is too lucrative of an object to not use as a marketing machine (it draws big crowds 30 years after, and it has two gift shops). The company has been run by non-creatives that can’t figure out how to make this story easily marketable and directly beneficial to them. I think this change was 15 years in the making, but unfortunately for them, they decided to pull the trigger at one of their most financially unstable periods. So I guess we’ll see. No matter what they decide to do with the ride, they are going to be met with a ton of scrutiny, and a ton of criticism. But if they end up changing the ride and it’s objectively worse (which is likely due to all of the short cuts they like to take), they will be much worse off than if they had done nothing at all. Nobody will be happy...besides the Disney Defence Squad.
It’s not like Anaheim is going swimmingly either (pun not intended)
Sirwalterraleigh
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I understand the history of it…I also recognize this is a completely fruitless PR game. As I said…few that ride it even realize it was a reference to a movie that may or may not have had a slave/former slave…
You know what would be nice? Disney actually acknowledging the past. Not promote or celebrate it…just not “whitewashing” it (pun intended)
A movie that was made 80 years after the civil war and 15 years before the civil rights acts. There’s a value in presenting the truth.
Societies are always most prosperous when they admit their mistakes
Sirwalterraleigh
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Hence the real problem. Another over budget; underwhelming conversion/replacement on deck
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Haymarket2008
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Fascinated to know what is going on here.
(Any "insider" information/rumor drop is much appreciated. I miss the days of a steady flow of hints).
(Any "insider" information/rumor drop is much appreciated. I miss the days of a steady flow of hints).
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