News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[MerlinTheGoat]

We can rebuild it. We have the technology. Flatter. Marshier. The Six Hundred Million Dollar Flume!

Also we can make the now height appropriate 'drop' face a better sightline: The swamp surrounding MK.

 

[Rich T]

How can you suggest theming is immaterial and replaceable but then say what’s impressive is the “complete visual package”?

Well, to start with, I never said theming is immaterial. I said Splash’s big final drop—that iconic image (yes, the whole “themed” image) is the ride’s signature money-shot image. The image that Disney has always used in every kind of advertising.

 

[larryz]

Definition of word Classic:

adjective

• 1.judged over a period of time to be of the highest quality and outstanding of its kind:"a classic novel"

If you post in this forum and say that Splash Mountain is not a classic, than you are direct opposition with this website's (as well as Imagineering and theme park industry's) take on Splash Mountain.

According to the Cambridge Dictionary, "Classic" can also mean "extremely or unusually funny, bad, or annoying."

 

[MrPromey]

And salt. Lots of salt.

That's funny, I could have sworn it was water... Ordinary water.

Now that would make some ending to the new ride, wouldn't it?

 

[Rich T]

Well, the briar patch is being removed outright and replaced by "soft" looking foliage (grass and bushes). Visually speaking, it certainly won't have the sort of intimidation factor that the thorns had.

True. I’m not saying I’m not concerned, I’m just trying really hard to stay optimistic.

 

[celluloid]

According to the Cambridge Dictionary, "Classic" can also mean "extremely or unusually funny, bad, or annoying."

That is true and based on the current use of slang. Like someone committing a gaff. "Classic Joe"
Over Webster's and Cambridge, I am an Oxford guy myself.

 

[LittleBuford]

Like someone committing a gaff. "Classic Joe"

Subtle!

 

[FettFan]

Have you ever passed a large pond or small lake?

lol. They don't call them the River Parishes for nothing. Oxbow lakes all up and down the place.

 

[retr0gate]

I would love to see some kind of happy medium between the original design that was released and the version we have now. I think Mama Odie's tree would've been visually overwhelming but I do agree that as is the mountain looks a little barren without the tree stump on top. Been sketching out my take on how it could've been redesigned.

 

[FettFan]

We can rebuild it. We have the technology. Flatter. Marshier. The Six Hundred Million Dollar Flume!

Now that's what i'm talking about. Especially if the boats are omnidirectional...

 

[MisterPenguin]

I would love to see some kind of happy medium between the original design that was released and the version we have now. I think Mama Odie's tree would've been visually overwhelming but I do agree that as is the mountain looks a little barren without the tree stump on top. Been sketching out my take on how it could've been redesigned.
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[MrPromey]

Someone posted earlier that the tree plan was ditched because the current hill wouldn't support it along with the boat stuck in the tree.

Except it wouldn't be a tree with a boat stuck in it.

It would likely be a steel frame with a fiberglass coated foam (as in styrofoam) build which would all weigh considerably less than it looks.

I mean, weight could still be an issue, I guess but my point is, in a situation like this when they want to build something, the first step would be figuring out what and then the second would be the construction materials and methods for the circumstances they're building under - including weight load.

This also wouldn't likely be something just bolted onto the exterior of the ride but connected directly to the frame under the exterior.

Again, it could still be an issue (one that money could absolutely fix) but I'm guessing that initial concept art they rushed out when they said this had been in the works since Walt's birth was probably the only solid thing they had and that little to no real thought about the actual story or practical efforts of converting this attraction had even been seriously considered at that point.

In short, I think it was about like the presentation of Beyond Thunder Mountain which is why it's taken years from that announcement to get to a point where they are ready to close the ride and actually begin a two year project that involves an already built structure and ride system.

 

[matt9112]

One of the weirder parts of this whole thing for me that is they are trying to dress up the whole thing as more friendly (apparently the lift hill will also be cheery as well) but... well they are still dropping you. The tone of these things feels off.

Yeah it comes across as pandering to younger kids….yet it still has a height requirement…..and still has thrills… it will feel very odd from a flow stand point if the ride is all happy go lucky with no build up of the drop or even the smaller ones.

 

[Andrew C]

Keep thinking of this...but opposite.

 

[celluloid]

Subtle!

Am I missing something? I just picked a name. "Classic John, a Classic Frank" when someone does something is a common slang these days for when someone does something they would tend to do. I feel dense so I did not know what I did by picking Joe.

 

[BrerFoxesBayouAdventure]

Well, the briar patch is being removed outright and replaced by "soft" looking foliage (grass and bushes). Visually speaking, it certainly won't have the sort of intimidation factor that the thorns had.

Guest response to Disney's updated exterior of Splash

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I would love to see some kind of happy medium between the original design that was released and the version we have now. I think Mama Odie's tree would've been visually overwhelming but I do agree that as is the mountain looks a little barren without the tree stump on top. Been sketching out my take on how it could've been redesigned.

This looks good as well, better than the solution they settled on.

It has become apparent that regardless of the subjective opinions of the rest of the exterior, the decapitation of the peak is going to be a sore spot on the facade (well that alongside the tacking tiara water tower). It looks very awkward without something there.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

So just wondering, Have we started a betting pool yet for how many years this takes??

Whatever it is, I'm taking the over.

 

[MrPromey]

20k also remained filled with water and used as "decoration" for a decade before they demolished it to make a Winnie the Pooh playground (which itself was demolished for the Fantasyland expansion). I remember being annoyed when they announced that Nemo ride knowing it could have been done with 20k as well if they didn't demolish it.

I don't think they'd have ever seriously considered that. The subs in Disneyland and the Nautilus are/were not your typical ride vehicle.

Unlike the DL subs, the Nautilus vehciles (each built in an actual shipyard) would have needed to be seriously altered and that would likely have cost way more than they'd have been willing to spend.

From what I understand, there was talk about modifying the existing DL subs to improve load/unload and increase hourly capacity (probably at a price in the same ballpark as Nautilus reworking prices) that was passed on at the time - due to cost.

To put it in perspective, this is a shot of a Nautilus being transported from Tampa where it was made, to WDW:

Remember, that's just ONE of the ride vehicles.

They'd have only had to rip off the top parts and replace those but this ride vehicle is still an actual boat that sits mostly under the water with guests in that area so what sounds simple, really isn't.

 

[retr0gate]

This looks good as well, better than the solution they settled on.

It has become apparent that regardless of the subjective opinions of the rest of the exterior, the decapitation of the peak is going to be a sore spot on the facade (well that alongside the tacking tiara water tower). It looks very awkward without something there.

I didn't mind it too much based on what they've shown with the DL exterior, but the WDW version almost feels too flat. The cartoony nature of the DL structure lends itself better to the rounded peak but with WDW's the missing stump is a lot more noticeable. That said, it does help the structure to feel less like a mountain and more like a hill (considering that's likely what they're aiming for).