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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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SweetDuffy101

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Hi, So i have a question with regards to exterior of this ride.

So is Disneyland and Magic kingdom going to have a distinct exterior with Magic kingdom getting the first concept art that was released and the recently released one was meant for Disneyland's version of the ride?
 

Doberge

True Bayou Magic
I finally gave in and watched some videos from closing including the cast member last rides and guests singing together. I thought I had my closure riding with my daughter alone in a log in December but with the videos I cried a bit. The ride was great but my memories will be stronger riding with my dad years ago and more recently with my daughter.
 

Rich T

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I finally gave in and watched some videos from closing including the cast member last rides and guests singing together. I thought I had my closure riding with my daughter alone in a log in December but with the videos I cried a bit. The ride was great but my memories will be stronger riding with my dad years ago and more recently with my daughter.
Memories are everything.😊
 

Rich T

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I can see it now

- what a great ride well done Disney you are awesome take all my money

and

- seriously, they gave up Splash for this garbage?
Edit: The 2nd option will be: “Seriously, they gave up Splash for this garbage? Take all my money anyway.”

I’m looking forward to Splash 2.0 and hoping it’s great. But anyone who’s truly angry about the decision should remember that Disney only cares about wallets. If you’re that upset, stop going to the parks. Money is the only language Disney speaks.
 

JohnD

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So I thought I would re-use a 2017 poster calendar for 2023 (days of the week are the same). Take a look at February. Who knows, I may separate it at the perforations and frame it.

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EagleScout610

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Hi, So i have a question with regards to exterior of this ride.

So is Disneyland and Magic kingdom going to have a distinct exterior with Magic kingdom getting the first concept art that was released and the recently released one was meant for Disneyland's version of the ride?
Both will have relatively similar exteriors. The main changes from Classic Splash, aside from more plants are the removal of Br’er Fox’s tree and the Briar patch, plus a new water tower.
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The original tree/boat was scrapped for two given reasons:
1. Didn't fit with the new salt mine story
2. The mountain structure supposedly couldn't support the boat and tree.
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Rich T

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PSA: If anyone here is considering a trip soon to L.A. to ride DL’s Splash Mtn., do take a side trip to nearby Knott’s Berry Farm to ride Timber Mountain, a fantastic, historic Log Flume that greatly influenced Tony Baxters design for Splash.

Timber Mountain is wonderfully, fully themed to a working lumberjack town, from the Garner Holt AAs to the sets, authentic props, CM costumes and catchy theme song that plays in various forms throughout. It also was the first to do the enter-a-pitch-dark-cave-and-plummet-down-a-surprise-drop-into-underground-caverns thing.

And I actually think it was and still is, overall, the best log flume on Earth.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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This always comes off as so tacky to me. It’s huge “pick me” energy, and makes both parks come off as super desperate.

Maybe try using your handles to promote your own parks, as opposed to commenting on everything Disney does.
In the pre Iger era, Disney would frequently take shots at other entertainment companies. Particularly ones they deemed lesser than them. Walt Disney created Disneyland because he felt that other theme parks had a reputation for being dirty and dilapidated, and he felt he could do it better (he was right). This continued into the Eisner era, remember the Possum Park scene in Goofy Movie? They brought it on themselves by being the first to do it.

The only reason this largely stopped under Iger is because the other companies (talking Universal specifically) have actually grown to the point where they're posing legitimate threat to some of their non castle parks. Acknowledging them validates their existence and endangers the bubble they've carefully crafted.

PSA: If anyone here is considering a trip soon to L.A. to ride DL’s Splash Mtn., do take a side trip to nearby Knott’s Berry Farm to ride Timber Mountain, a fantastic, historic Log Flume that greatly influenced Tony Baxters design for Splash.

Timber Mountain is wonderfully, fully themed to a working lumberjack town, from the Garner Holt AAs to the sets, authentic props, CM costumes and catchy theme song that plays in various forms throughout. It also was the first to do the enter-a-pitch-dark-cave-and-plummet-down-a-surprise-drop-into-underground-caverns thing.

And I actually think it was and still is, overall, the best log flume on Earth.
Timber Mountain is a great log flume and easily the second best by far. But all three variants of Splash are still superior by a significant margin. There are lapses in the quality of scenery on Timber that Splash doesn't have. There's a lot of bare unthemed flume trench seen in most other log flumes and the surrounding rockwork doesn't hold a candle to Disney's. The animatronics also aren't as good as Disney's (when Disney's actually work that is). Splash is also longer, and the music is also far better.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Both will have relatively similar exteriors. The main changes from Classic Splash, aside from more plants are the removal of Br’er Fox’s tree and the Briar patch, plus a new water tower.

The original tree/boat was scrapped for two given reasons:
1. Didn't fit with the new salt mine story
2. The mountain structure supposedly couldn't support the boat and tree.
I doubt it's the first one. The Salt Mine story doesn't change the fact that the exterior is still themed to a bayou. There's swamp vegetation scattered throughout, water lilies, frogs etc etc. If you look closely at the models/renders for both DL and WDW, you can also see inside the cave at the peak and spot Mama Odie's colored bottles inside it. So it still seems like it's supposed to be her home.

I don't know about the second. Has an insider stated that the structure couldn't support it? Could just as easily be them not allocating the funds to do it (or reallocating the money elsewhere in the ride (which I find an acceptable tradeoff IF the interior scenes are way better than they would have been).

My guess is they could make it work if they really wanted to though, even if required more money, time and effort to engineer a solution.
 

Rich T

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In the pre Iger era, Disney would frequently take shots at other entertainment companies. Particularly ones they deemed lesser than them. Walt Disney created Disneyland because he felt that other theme parks had a reputation for being dirty and dilapidated, and he felt he could do it better (he was right). This continued into the Eisner era, remember the Possum Park scene in Goofy Movie? They brought it on themselves by being the first to do it.

The only reason this largely stopped under Iger is because the other companies (talking Universal specifically) have actually grown to the point where they're posing legitimate threat to some of their non castle parks. Acknowledging them validates their existence and endangers the bubble they've carefully crafted.


Timber Mountain is a great log flume and easily the second best by far. But all three variants of Splash are still superior by a significant margin. There are lapses in the quality of scenery on Timber that Splash doesn't have. There's a lot of bare unthemed flume trench seen in most other log flumes and the surrounding rockwork doesn't hold a candle to Disney's. The animatronics also aren't as good as Disney's (when Disney's actually work that is). Splash is also longer, and the music is also far better.
Where I find Timber Mountain better for me are these points: Pacing, the actual physical ride (the way the logs flow briskly and smoothly with almost no bottom-scraping or side-bumping, and the perfect amount of Splash (as in, not drenching).

And, for me, the theme. I prefer a jolly Wild West logging adventure to a colorful animal folk tale. Purely subjective.

I can’t blame anyone for putting it third after the 2 Splash Mtns. But it’ll always be my fave. :)
 

MerlinTheGoat

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There are, or rather were, three Splash Mountains. All of which I would still consider significantly better than Timber. Tokyo is keeping their Splash (for now). I'll also be a bit optimistic and say Tiana has a decent chance of still being better than Timber too. Depends on whether what I heard about the ride turns out to be true. As good as Splash though, still supremely skeptical...

Timber is by far the best non Disney log flume. And it's not even close, I can't think of any other log flume other than Splash that has anything remotely approaching Timber's level of scenery detail and use of animatronics.
 
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