Ghost93
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Was Facillier's absence ever officially confirmed, or just assumed due to Keith David not being announced with the voice cast?
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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure
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I have never seen a confirmation but it is weird that not a single piece of concept art or PR piece has mentioned him or villainy. Disney has gone away from anything animated film villain based since New Fantasyland.
Frozen
Beauty and The Beast in Tokyo
Snow White's redo in DL's Fantasyland
His lack of involvement with the Disney Plus series makes it less likely, as the way the biz works is typically whoever is on contract will record their lines while they have them. Definitely not confirmation, but another strong indicator.
Ghost93
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I'm still hoping they are keeping Facillier a "scary surprise" and treating his return as a twist, but I know there's a good chance he won't be involved at all, which is stupid of course because he's the last great Disney villain!
It would be nice, but that is not the way Disney seems to operate anymore. They would have hyped up some dark voodoo element by now.
Drdcm
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If not a villain, maybe the salt mine will start to collapse?
Either way, if there is a villain, or will likely be some stupid misunderstood salt dome supervisor who works the employees too hard and learns the lesson of his/her/their ways :/
lazyboy97o
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Legoland New York was a $300 million project. Universal Orlando Resort’s South Campus is north of $6 billion and Epic Universe will likely surpass Universal Studios Beijing as the most expensive park built. It’ll also have taken more than 4 years.
RobWDW1971
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Ooh, ooh, this is fun! Now compare it against something actually meaningful like the 10 Disney/Pixar animated films before and after it on all of those metrics and add global box office as well. I can't wait to see how it stacks up!
999th Happy Haunt
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I’m not super excited for the Splash retheme, but this just isn’t true. Dreamworks plans consist of a retheme of a kiddie coaster and 2 play areas.
MagicHappens1971
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Combination of lack of announcment of including him and that the attraction takes place after the events of PatF, where his friends from the other side take him back. It would be like Darth Vader appearing in RotR. They’re both dead.
JoeCamel
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Don't forget the M&Gs! It was good enough for NFL so......
He has made out of time appearances in Star Tours just fine.
Theme parks are different mediums and guests don't care when it is good.
Also, the character's main trait of power is that he has death communicating based Voodoo magic.
ToTBellHop
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Yeah. Some people are expecting far too much from this modest project.
As for TBA, the only way Facilier could be involved at this point is if they use an entirely unaltered version of “Friends on the Other Side,” and given the story of TBA, that seems impossible given the lyrics.
And it is a pity. Mama Odie helping our log escape the Other Side would have been a really cool climax. And The Laughin’ Place converting into the Other Side might have actually improved that space. Missed opportunity. I guess the only way to get extremely rare truffles will be by going over a waterfall. Yay.
It would be pretty cool for the dip drop to have been into a mausoleum, into “the Other Side” for the Laughin’ Place portion with Mama Odie returning us to safety via the big drop…
MagicHappens1971
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Well Star Tours doesn’t really take place in any specific period of time. They’re a Space Cruiser line that has flights from any period of time. Vader & Kylo never appear together. The point is that Disney has confirmed that this attraction picks up after the events of the film. That, in combination with the fact that there has been 0 mention of him, his voice actor or any appearance anywhere in the concept art has led people to believe he will not appear in the attraction. This could be wrong, but it most likely is not.
This is also huge and true.
Notice I said to the average guest.
Dreamworks as a whole has far more appeal than Princess Tiana thus far, unless the series is somehow a smash hit.
Captain Underpants, Bad Guys, Shrek, Puss and others run decades deep in entertainment combined to be something for many.
It will be a better return on investment for the park with low cost, but results for the average guest. This is why I stated average guest.
Universal has a few surprises for it all.
There are characters that clash and appear together. It is also not unique to Star Tours, that is just one example. I am not saying that Dr F. will be there.
It is just a weak excuse that he should not because it has been done more successful than not in all major theme parks.
MrPromey
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The question he was responding to is "Is it worth the watch?".
I'm not sure how comparing it to other Disney/Pixar movies changes the fact that most people thought it was good.
I guess he didn't say "yes, it's worth a watch" so I will:
Yes, it's worth a watch.
Personally, I think Friends On the Other Side contains some of the most stunning 2D animation ever made.
It's also a catchy song.
Buried20KLeague
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The (stupid) plot is Tiana finding a plant to cook with.
After the movie. Where he died.
Facillier ain’t gonna be in it.
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MrPromey
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If this is true...
On the one hand, props for not making a book report ride, I guess, but on the other... Seriously?
Of all the attractions to give some sort of serious story beats of consequence to, a ride with thrilling, one might say "death defying drops" would sure feel like a prime candidate.
I don't buy them not wanting Dr. Facilier in it because that's somehow problematic. They've had no problem using him in Mickeys Not So Scary Halloween parties. He's got a great song they could rework a couple of lyrics to that would work perfect for the final lift hill to fit with a new plot involving him, too.
I'm guessing this employee owned Whole Foods thing will tie more into the animated series and since the movie ended with him getting dragged to the "other side", he probably won't be making an appearance in any of that.
Although, he could always come back from the other side for revenge
Okay, forget that crossed out part. No sequel because that's how Disney typically ruins good things but that could have been the plot of the ride and unlike say, Jafar, Dr. Facilier always struck me as a marketable villain people would actually enjoy seeing come back.
Hope I'm way off because I think something tied strongly to the movie with its own unique twist would have been a much better choice to make the attraction timeless rather than tying it to some animated series that'll get at max 3-4 seasons and then become dated, like they always do.
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