News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[Disney Analyst]

The people selling water sends me.

The one thing that is not changing in this redo is the water.

I mean it will be a fresh batch of water…. But it will still be the same ol’ splash mountain smelling water.

 

[Casper Gutman]

If you find yourself having even a glimmer of hope, just remember that the salt mines have been the PRIMARY element of the PR for this enormously high profile project. Think of the many levels on which the salt mine element is an awful idea and how terrible the development process must be that no one, at any point, vetoed the idea. Despair.

Also, I think MMRR is a really great ride. I love it. But it’s an awful model for Tianas.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I honestly don’t think the imagineers are stupid enough to ignore the “story” that splash invoked…with the ride getting real dark and scary right before the lift hill. And then the cheerful ending. They will definitely write that into this new story as well. If they don’t, then these new imagineers have failed brilliantly. Maybe it’ll be so bad it’s good?

Disney's most recent princess rides haven't included villains and have had little to no tension. Frozen was 100% singing and happiness with zero conflict or tension. Beauty and the Beast at Tokyo didn't include Gaston and only had a brief shadowy silhouette of the mob shoved into a corner in one of the small transitional corridors. The recent Snow White renovation at Disneyland still includes the evil queen, but a number of the scenes have been heavily altered to make it less dark and scary (the facade and queue were repainted to be more bright and pink colored, the forest before the mine is no longer dark and moody, some of the skeletons were removed, the witch in the boat was removed, the dark forest was removed, and the witch no longer tries to drop a boulder on people).

It's entirely plausible that Tiana's ride won't have any dark/scary elements whatsoever. The ride takes place after the movie, so Facilier probably won't be present (maybe a cameo like his shadow or monument, but Keith David is absent in all promo material thus far). You can also spot Mama Odie's colored bottles in the cave opening atop the model, so the peak of the final lift at least is probably going to be lighthearted.

 

[dovetail65]

Unless the actual log flumes are shot how can it take 2 years. And if they need rework the internal swhy not wipe it clean an make something new. Heck, I much rather them bring back a captain Nemo type ride that could fit in that area fine. AN 1890's steam punk ride would be much cooler.

Epci Universe theme park is 750 acres will open 4 years after start date! ONe retheme at MK is 2 years? ?

 

[GhostHost1000]

If you find yourself having even a glimmer of hope, just remember that the salt mines have been the PRIMARY element of the PR for this enormously high profile project. Think of the many levels on which the salt mine element is an awful idea and how terrible the development process must be that no one, at any point, vetoed the idea. Despair.

Also, I think MMRR is a really great ride. I love it. But it’s an awful model for Tianas.

When I think of a salt mine I immediately think of a mountain water ride. Doesn’t everyone?

 

[GhostHost1000]

Unless the actual log flumes are shot how can it take 2 years. And if they need rework the internal swhy not wipe it clean an make something new. Heck, I much rather them bring back a captain Nemo type ride that could fit in that area fine. AN 1890's steam punk ride would be much cooler.

Epci Universe theme park is 750 acres will open 4 years after start date! ONe retheme at MK is 2 years? ?

Frozen replacing Maelstrom took a year and a half and it is WAY smaller

 

[dovetail65]

Frozen replacing Maelstrom took a year and a half and it is WAY smaller

You are right, that did take a darn long time.

 

[SNS]

Frozen replacing Maelstrom took a year and a half and it is WAY smaller

Yeah, in modern times Universal has been much quicker with these things then Disney so this is nothing new.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Yeah, in modern times Universal has been much quicker with these things then Disney so this is nothing new.

and likely way less expensive. Disneys costs and management decisions are just way out of control

 

[Poseidon Quest]

Frozen replacing Maelstrom took a year and a half and it is WAY smaller

Yeah, but they re-routed the track and completely changed the load/unload areas. I have to imagine that's a lot more work than reworking scenes along the track. I can't see Splash changing its track layout, even in minor ways. I know nothing about what's rumored to change or stay, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of the cartoon rockwork in the indoor scenes stay the same. I imagine that Brer Rabbit, Fox and Bear will be gone, but I have to wonder if they'll repurpose a lot of the other animatronics that never appeared in the film, even if just to save on cost and time, knowing that this is a huge hit to capacity.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Frozen took a year and eight months. That was also a far tinier ride with a lower budget, and it reopened looking very barren and unfinished. Modern Disney is sluggish. Honestly, the "late 2024" timeline for Tiana sounds far too short for what they're supposedly going to do. I'm not expecting it to be ready until at least spring or summer 2025...

 

[dovetail65]

and likely way less expensive. Disneys costs and management decisions are just way out of control

You would not believe this and I can't believe it to be true, but Universal is saying 300 million for Epic Universe. That is IMPOSSIBLE. I bet in the end we find it was 1 billion.Epic Universe is 750 acres and 4 lands for 300 million? I must of read it wrong. And only 4 year start to finish?

 

[GhostHost1000]

Yeah, but they re-routed the track and completely changed the load/unload areas. I have to imagine that's a lot more work than reworking scenes along the track. I can't see Splash changing its track layout, even in minor ways. I know nothing about what's rumored to change or stay, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of the cartoon rockwork in the indoor scenes stay the same. I imagine that Brer Rabbit, Fox and Bear will be gone, but I have to wonder if they'll repurpose a lot of the other animatronics that never appeared in the film, even if just to save on cost and time, knowing that this is a huge hit to capacity.

That is true but Splash will also have redo work inside and outside

 

[SNS]

Yeah, but they re-routed the track and completely changed the load/unload areas. I have to imagine that's a lot more work than reworking scenes along the track. I can't see Splash changing its track layout, even in minor ways. I know nothing about what's rumored to change or stay, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of the cartoon rockwork in the indoor scenes stay the same. I imagine that Brer Rabbit, Fox and Bear will be gone, but I have to wonder if they'll repurpose a lot of the other animatronics that never appeared in the film, even if just to save on cost and time, knowing that this is a huge hit to capacity.

Yeah, I wish they would at least save the America Sings cast when this happens with Disneyland's version but probably too much to hope for.

 

[Smiley/OCD]

The people selling water sends me.

The one thing that is not changing in this redo is the water.

I mean it will be a fresh batch of water…. But it will still be the same ol’ splash mountain smelling water.

But, but, but it’ll be Tiana water, NOT Splash water…

 

[Disney Glimpses]

Or convert Diamond Horseshoe. The movie interior's got a stage and balconies after all.
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I absolutely love the illustration in this film.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

You wold not believe this and I cant believe it to be true, but Universal is saying 300 million. That is IMPOSSIBLE. I bet in the end we find it was 1 billion.Epic Universe is 750 acres and 4 lands for 300 million? I must of read it wrong.

You probably saw this, which is a $300 million road construction project around the property-

Documents reveal name Universal plans to give Epic Universe road

The new park is expected to open by summer 2025.

www.mynews13.com

Disney has been far worse at managing budgets than Universal for the past 15+ years now. But Epic Universe is still going to have 10-figure price tag. Diagon Alley alone cost several hundred million (I don't know the exact amount).

 

[Tha Realest]

We all hope that Bob Iger allows the creative folk to be creative and disallow any cost cutting.

Do we? Why should this ride be treated any different than any other? That’s true equity.

 

[Trauma]

You probably saw this, which is a $300 million road construction project around the property-

Documents reveal name Universal plans to give Epic Universe road

The new park is expected to open by summer 2025.

www.mynews13.com

Disney has been far worse at managing budgets than Universal for the past 15+ years now. But Epic Universe is still going to have 10-figure price tag. Diagon Alley alone cost several hundred million (I don't know the exact amount).

No one will care about Epic Universe.

Everyone will be at MK riding the salt mine.

 

[Smooth]

Well..... at this point... how do we really know that they might, possibly, do away with the "big drop"? They could just have the logs(assuming there will be logs) slowly descend to the bottom. I know ... crazy. But we really don't much of anything.