News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[drizgirl]

I think they will do their best. I would imagine most of the scenery pieces have been pre-fabricated already, seems like they have a working version of the attraction audio? Maybe they waited so long to close it to get more work done on the back end? We’ll soon(ish) find out.

Keep dreaming.

 

[Brian]

I must be the only one that doesn't know what a relevancy activation is.

Don't worry, neither does she.

 

[drizgirl]

It’s not going to “fail”. They’re going to end up with a super-popular log flume ride just as before, no matter what.

No one’s going to say, “No singing bunny? No bear butts? I’m never going to ride this excellent log flume ever, ever again!”

Ten years from now, there will be a new generation that’s grown up with and grown to love the new version of Splash.

The only way they could make this fail would be to put trim brakes all the way down the big drop.

They aren't going to be asking about singing bunnies and bear butts because there won't be any. There will be big chunks of dark space.

The success of this ride was about so much more than a 5 story drop. There are plenty of ways this thing could come up wanting.

 

[gerarar]

 

[JohnD]

Proving that the retheme is something that few really wanted.

 

[erasure fan1]

I think they will do their best.

Yea, and that's what worries me the most. I just don't see the best that current Disney has, can come close to what splash mountain is.

 

[Brian]

Proving that the retheme is something that few really wanted.

I think you'll be singing a different tune once its relevancy has been activated.

 

[Midwest Elitist]

I'm looking forward to all the memes to come here, during the rebuilding. My God, I'm sad, but the posts are the best part of this fourm!

 

[drizgirl]

Have you seen PatF? Its World is a lot of fun. No princess fandom required.

There’s potential for greatness there. And I’m also worried about the horrid press releases so far. But let’s see what happens.

Saw and loved PatF. But the ride isn't even being set in the movie. It's being set after the film ends.

 

[Br0ckford]

Proving that the retheme is something that few really wanted.

It's just fun to be part of an event like this, on the last day. It's not like it's 200 minutes all the time.

 

[EagleScout610]

 

[MagicHappens1971]

So odd that they basically waited all day to do this

 

[lazyboy97o]

There is no good reason for supposed leaders to be riding the ride during the day. Just none. They should either be doing these sort of ride throughs before or after the operating day.

 

[celluloid]

Look, Disney wants you to forget about it so much, they are going to profit off your photo with its signage!

This is not Horizons, Kongfrontation nor Toad, and I loved those. This, a bad all around theme park industry move.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Have you seen PatF? Its World is a lot of fun. No princess fandom required.

There’s potential for greatness there. And I’m also worried about the horrid press releases so far. But let’s see what happens.

I've seen it multiple times and think it's a very good movie. I also enjoy it more than SOTS (though I also do not believe SOTS is offensive in any sense, just kind of boring throughout a lot of it). The quality of these movies have zero bearing on the quality of the rides themselves. A good movie doesn't necessarily make a good ride, and a bad movie doesn't necessarily guarantee a bad ride.

PATF could make for a fantastic ride. The issue is that I do not trust the current crop of imagineers to do a Tiana ride justice. As a new standalone ride that didn't replace anything, it at least wouldn't have the same astronomical expectations. So a mediocre product wouldn't be so damaging. The problem is that it's not a new ride, it's a replacement of one of the best and most popular rides in the world. At bare minimum, it HAS to be at least as good as Splash Mountain. And that is going to take a miracle to pull off. And despite some positive things I've heard about the project from people I trust, I still remain skeptical.

The talent and design philosophies that created Splash are gone from the company. It has been over 20 years since Disney opened what I term a "classic style" E ticket (Sinbad at Tokyo), and over 30 years since they did it in the states (Splash itself). Tokyo was/is still getting some cool additions in recent years, but even those are made with modern design philosophies that would be an ill fit for a Splash replacement. And even most of the teams involved with Tokyo projects are no longer with the company as of the past year or two.

Tiana will require a level of detailed and dense physical scenery, animatronic population and storytelling that are pretty much lost from the current crop of imagineers. Charita Carter and her core team do not inspire confidence that they can/will pull it off on their own. That's one reason why I hope what I heard about Tony Baxter (and Bob Weis before he left the company) being substantially creatively involved are true.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

There is no good reason for supposed leaders to be riding the ride during the day. Just none. They should either be doing these sort of ride throughs before or after the operating day.

Publicity? They know everyone is filming it on the last day and are likely to be spotted.

Perhaps it's their way of wanting to show they're working on it right away.

Of course a blog post with footage taken outside of regular operating hours would do the same thing.

 

[Rich T]

They aren't going to be asking about singing bunnies and bear buts because there won't be any. There will be big chunks of dark space.

The success of this ride was about so much more than a 5 story drop. There are plenty of ways this thing could come up wanting.

Yes. It could go wrong. But it’s not going to “fail” as a a crowd-pleasing attraction at MK.

Brer Rabbit and SotS are gone from MK as of tomorrow morning. The change was inevitable. I’m going to be optimistic about the Tiana ride (despite plenty of red flags in the PR so far).

Goodness knows, there’s plenty to gripe about at Disney regarding current, existing attractions without getting pre-upset about a work in progress.

 

[celluloid]

Publicity? They know everyone is filming it on the last day and are likely to be spotted.

Perhaps it's their way of wanting to show they're working on it right away.

Of course a blog post with footage take outside of regular operating hours would do the same thing.

It is also the current Disney philosophy where you say screw the paying customer, this can't wait.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I've seen it multiple times and think it's a very good movie. I also enjoy it more than SOTS (though I also do not believe SOTS is offensive in any sense, just kind of boring throughout a lot of it). The quality of these movies have zero bearing on the quality of the rides themselves. A good movie doesn't necessarily make a good ride, and a bad movie doesn't necessarily guarantee a bad ride.

A huge problem is that I do not trust the current crop of imagineers to do a Tiana ride justice. As a new standalone ride that didn't replace anything, it wouldn't have the same astronomical expectations. The problem is that it's not a new ride, it's a replacement of one of the best and most popular rides in the world. At bare minimum, it HAS to be at least as good as Splash Mountain. And that is going to take a miracle to pull off.

The talent and design philosophies that created Splash are gone from the company. It has been over 20 years since Disney opened what I term a "classic style" E ticket (Sinbad at Tokyo), and over 30 years since they did it in the states (Splash itself). Tokyo was/is still getting some cool additions in recent years, but even those are made with modern design philosophies that would be an ill fit for a Splash replacement. And even most of the teams involved with Tokyo projects are no longer with the company as of the past year or two.

Tiana will require a level of detailed and dense physical scenery, animatronic population and storytelling that are pretty much lost from the current crop of imagineers. Charita Carter and her core team do not inspire confidence that they can/will pull it off on their own. That's one reason why I hope what I heard about Tony Baxter (and Bob Weis before he left the company) being substantially creatively involved are true.

It doesn’t help that the plot seems downright stupid and that they supposedly won’t include the PatF songs or Dr. Facilier. The ONLY things that made me optimistic about this project originally was that I love the music and that Facilier is awesome.

As exciting as it will be watching Tiana hunt for special clams and peppers, I’m nervous about TBA.

I hope to be pleasantly-surprised. I was upset about GMR and I love MMRR.

 

[brb1006]

It’s reality now. Terms change in meaning, and part of Disney’s job as a family entertainment giant is to adjust to cultural changes. SotS has some good moments, (and great, great animation), but the tar scene kind of drops an atom bomb on any chance of it ever being acknowledged by Disney ever again. There were some very unfortunate choices made in the production of that movie.

The Japanese won't mind it considering the context isn't known over there.