News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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CaptainAmerica

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I hate to break it to you, but they’re never going to remove the Tiana overlay and rebuild the original Bret Rabbit interior. They’re not going to remove the Tiana overlay, period, no matter what a few grumbly fans think. This isn’t giant taco barges turning World Showcase Lagoon into an eyesore.

In many ways, Frozen Ever After is a huge fail. And really, really popular. It’s here to stay, and so is Tiana. And we won’t know until it opens how good Tiana’s Adventure will turn out.
Frozen Ever After is a better attraction than Maelstrom ever was. It's only failing is where it's located.
 

Rich T

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Did you watch the video outlining the titles of the people in that boat? This ride isn't being designed by artists, it's being designed by HR executives.


Could be. I'm reserving judgement. An excellently-done Tiana Splash should be better than Br'er Splash. But I started losing hope around the time we first heard the words "salt mine."
I’m not going to deny that I’m concerned. 😄 But PatF is a great starting point, so let’s see how it turns out.
 

tl77

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The concept to turn Splash Mountain into a Tiana ride was clearly developed for Disneyland, and cramming into Magic Kingdom's Splash Mountain is a huge missed opportunity

What they really should be doing is building a New Orleans Square at Magic Kingdom, maybe north of The Haunted Mansion, on that piece of land that's been vacant for 50 years? But have the Tiana Boat Ride and Restaurant there in place of DL's Pirates and Blue Lagoon

The whole appeal of Splash Mountain is "singing animals in a cartoon world" they should change that as little as possible...
Get Br'er Rabbit out of there already, maybe replace it with the unmade film that inspired America Sings.



These rides don't need to tell you a story to be popular, The Jungle Cruise, Small World, Haunted Mansion, Pirates "Pre-Johnny Depp" had no stories, they just had fun characters and fun songs in beautiful environments
 

Kirby86

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Maybe she didn’t want to get wet? I’m surprised these pictures got leaked
Why it's an automatic camera? It's hard to hide them when the ride is still operating. As for why they were behind them? There was a 3 to 5 hour line you can't have to many empty logs going just because Imagineering wanted a ride with headphones on.
 

monothingie

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I hate to break it to you, but they’re never going to remove the Tiana overlay and rebuild the original Bret Rabbit interior. They’re not going to remove the Tiana overlay, period, no matter what a few grumbly fans think. This isn’t giant taco barges turning World Showcase Lagoon into an eyesore.
I don’t think they’ll remove it. It will just wind up rotting and neglected. Splash is incredibly high maintenance. The replacement will not be any different. Worse case it winds up like Stitch.
 

Trauma

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It's good to see that Carmen Smith apparently hates the ride.

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Smith is responsible for "guiding global relevance assessments to identify issues and address concerns; advises on content to make sure Disney's stories, characters, products, and experiences are culturally accurate, authentic, inclusive and devoid of stereotypes; diversifies external partnerships and collaborations, and ensures thoughtful representation and engagement throughout the creative development process," according to her corporate bio.


So she knows how to design a good ride I hope ?
 

999th Happy Haunt

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It’s not going to “fail”. They’re going to end up with a super-popular log flume ride just as before, no matter what.

No one’s going to say, “No singing bunny? No bear butts? I’m never going to ride this excellent log flume ever, ever again!”

Ten years from now, there will be a new generation that’s grown up with and grown to love the new version of Splash.

The only way they could make this fail would be to put trim brakes all the way down the big drop.
With this logic Disney could tear down every bit of theming for this attraction and reopen it as just exposed flume track, and it would still be a good attraction. No! The argument that “it’ll still be a log flume” is perhaps the worst I’ve seen for any attraction replacement ever. Stitch was still a theater in the round with many retained special effects, but was it really anywhere near Alien Encounter? Dinosaur and Indiana Jones have the exact same track layout, which do fans prefer?

When even the supporters of the change start to argue the theming doesn’t really matter, we are doomed.
 

JoeCamel

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Smith is responsible for "guiding global relevance assessments to identify issues and address concerns; advises on content to make sure Disney's stories, characters, products, and experiences are culturally accurate, authentic, inclusive and devoid of stereotypes; diversifies external partnerships and collaborations, and ensures thoughtful representation and engagement throughout the creative development process," according to her corporate bio.


So she knows how to design a good ride I hope ?
I think the only qualification for that position is the ability to say "No"
 

Smiley/OCD

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Different timelines? They want this reopened in less than 24 months as another poster mentioned. Closing it now barley gives them enough time to get it open by Christmas 2024. I would assume they would realistically like it open by Thanksgiving 24 the latest. There’s also more attractions under refurbishment at Disneyland.
It’s gonna take them that long to Flex Paste all the cracks and leaks on the logs…
 

Rich T

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With this logic Disney could tear down every bit of theming for this attraction and reopen it as just exposed flume track, and it would still be a good attraction. No! The argument that “it’ll still be a log flume” is perhaps the worst I’ve seen for any attraction replacement ever. Stitch was still a theater in the round with many retained special effects, but was it really anywhere near Alien Encounter? Dinosaur and Indiana Jones have the exact same track layout, which do fans prefer?

When even the supporters of the change start to argue the theming doesn’t really matter, we are doomed.
Calm down. I’m saying that the rethemed ride isn’t going to “fail” any more than Frozen Ever After, Ratatouille, MMRR, Navi River Journey or any other recent mediocre additions/changes.

We, as fans, can label something as an artistic belly flop, but if the public keeps lining up for it, Disney will never view it as a failure.

There’s a big difference between disappointment and a crash-and-burn failure. The fact that no matter what, Splash is graced with an excellent flume layout makes it “fail-proof” in that regard.

Let’s hope for the best.
 
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HoustonHorn

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The Attractions article doesn't indicate the date this happened. But presumably it was recently.

How flipping contemptuous of their consumers (we ceased being guests years ago) to dunk on them like this. As evidenced not only by this thread, but by the 3-4 hour waits today as people say goodbye to an amazing attraction they loved.

While fans grieve, Disney rubs the upcoming change in their faces instead of waiting until it's closed. With people who appear to hate the concept of a log flume.
 
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