News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[HauntedPirate]

Imagine a ride like this:

Kermit is tired of his life and wants a change. He packs up his belongings, despite his fellow Muppets saying it's a bad idea, and leaves his cozy apartment for a new life in a new city. However, Dr. Nefario and his henchman, the faithful but bumbling George, has his eye on Kermit and wants to kidnap him and make him into frog stew. Kermit uses his wits to comically outsmart Dr. Nefario and George and eventually realizes that there's no place like home, no matter what problems may exist there.

Sounds like a ride I'd like to experience. Too bad so many of you want to get rid of it.

 

[EagleScout610]

Imagine a ride like this:

Kermit is tired of his life and wants a change. He packs up his belongings, despite his fellow Muppets saying it's a bad idea, and leaves his cozy apartment for a new life in a new city. However, Dr. Nefario and his henchman, the faithful but bumbling George, has his eye on Kermit and wants to kidnap him and make him into frog stew. Kermit uses his wits to comically outsmart Dr. Nefario and George and eventually realizes that there's no place like home, no matter what problems may exist there.

Sounds like a ride I'd like to experience. Too bad so many of you want to get rid of it.

Strange crossover but I'd still ride

 

[ToTBellHop]

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Strange crossover but I'd still ride

Do Fraggle Rock.

 

[cranbiz]

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[Ayla]

• Louis story was dropped because the rumor is they couldn't find out what to do with the Laughin Place other than make it a salt mine
• Jim Cummings recently confirmed that Ray is not returning
• No doubt they would've mentioned Facilier by now if he were part of it.
• Plus Keith Davis wasn't listed in the ride cast at D23
• None of the film songs will be reused

How can you have a ride but don't use any of the songs from the movie?! That's ridiculous. There is zero connection to the movie and zero connection from the audience.

 

[Fox&Hound]

Ughhhhh. I don't understand their obsession with doing "after the movie" when the movie is what has the audience and the following...

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Was it stated outright somewhere that they wouldn't be using any songs from the movie? Where are people getting that from?

 

[Sir_Cliff]

Was it stated outright somewhere that they wouldn't be using any songs from the movie? Where are people getting that from?

Yes, best I can tell that is speculation based on the fact it takes place after the movie.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Yes, best I can tell that is speculation based on the fact it takes place after the movie.

Which is an odd jump to make since FotL is after the movie and uses *all* the songs from the movie.

FEA, which is after the movie, uses some of the songs and updates the lyrics on others.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Ughhhhh. I don't understand their obsession with doing "after the movie" when the movie is what has the audience and the following...

Well, there are plenty of people on these forums who criticize 'book reports' rides that just rehash what happens in the movie.

And there are those like you who want what happens in the movie.

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[Stupido]

I think the decision to set the ride after the movie has more to do with the biggest criticism of the movie: the first black princess spends 80% of the movie as a frog. This has been a very common complaint, and if they set the ride during the movie, they'd be dealing with that same exact problem all over again. I get wanting to set it post-human transformation, but I agree this salt mine story could use some work.

 

[Sir_Cliff]

FEA, which is after the movie, uses some of the songs and updates the lyrics on others.

Yeah, I just assumed it would be like FEA in that the characters would be singing songs from the film that fit whatever scenario they were in.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

The salt mine exterior is stupid, and it's interesting that almost everyone seems to agree with that sentiment regardless of whether they support the overhaul or not (rare to see such a unanimous consensus here). It's just a strange and bad idea overall regardless of how you look at it. I actually did much prefer the original exterior art showing the the tree and boat atop the hill. Not that hills make any sense in the bayou regardless of the concept they go with (including the salt mine variant), but the exterior at least appeared lush and vibrant.

Hopefully most/all of the salt mine elements apply ONLY to the queue and exterior, and the interior scenes focus on the bayou and New Orleans. The current version of Splash Mountain also doesn't take place inside Brer Fox's lair for most of it either, it transitions to either a swamp or sunny countryside (depending on the version) after the initial drop. I would assume the Tiana overlay would make the same sort of transition. The word "bayou" is in the ride name, so one assumes that setting would take precedent.

This is all of my own speculation of course, but it makes sense to me. I'd also be shocked if none of the songs from the movie play in the ride. I'm guessing there will be a mixture of both old and new.

 

[_caleb]

Ughhhhh. I don't understand their obsession with doing "after the movie" when the movie is what has the audience and the following...

Because people have already seen the movie?

 

[aladdin2007]

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Muppet Mountain...at least it would still be an iconic MK mountain attraction, and not squished down to a bog swamp with a anything but exciting princess storybook title. This whole thing still bothers me that they are removing an entire MK mountain for this when it should/could have still been Tiana's Splash Mountain...Imagineering is just done gone.... But then I am also still irked they renamed the snow white ride at Disneyland enchanted wish or whatever fluff princess name they call it. We cant have anything anymore that exudes a sense of darkness or danger or originality. Everything has to be a preschool princess name.

 

[BuddyThomas]

So they are seriously doing this retheme just to promote a Disney+ show?! UGH! That’s the worst excuse I ever heard! D+ needs to stay out of Disney Parks.

No. That’s not why. No one would expect you to read all 500+ pages of this thread, but at least do a little digging and you will learn why they are doing the retheme.

 

[_caleb]

Imagine a ride like this:

Kermit is tired of his life and wants a change. He packs up his belongings, despite his fellow Muppets saying it's a bad idea, and leaves his cozy apartment for a new life in a new city. However, Dr. Nefario and his henchman, the faithful but bumbling George, has his eye on Kermit and wants to kidnap him and make him into frog stew. Kermit uses his wits to comically outsmart Dr. Nefario and George and eventually realizes that there's no place like home, no matter what problems may exist there.

Sounds like a ride I'd like to experience. Too bad so many of you want to get rid of it.

Imagine a ride like this:

Louis the Alligator is tired of his life and wants a to celebrate Mardi Gras with the humans. He packs up his musical instruments, despite his fellow animals saying it's a bad idea, and leaves the sleepy bayou for the Big Easy. However, Louis encounters Dr. Facilier's henchman and loses his trumpet! Louis's animal friends help him find his missing trumpet, and challenge the Bad Guy with amazing jazz music that makes everyone dance. Everyone celebrates with jazz music, dancing, and hot beignets.

Sounds like the same ride. Too bad you like the Muppets.

 

[_caleb]

at least do a little digging and you will learn why they are doing the retheme.

You gotta dig a little deeper

 

[Kirby86]

About 200 or so Pages ago I said a Muppet retheme would be fun but was told The Muppets have nothing to do with the west or Frontierland. I guess that idea was to early.

 

[James Alucobond]

About 200 or so Pages ago I said a Muppet retheme would be fun but was told The Muppets have nothing to do with the west or Frontierland. I guess that idea was to early.

While Princess and the Frog is definitely not a great fit, I think The Muppets is probably worse unless they're basically just hosting something completely topically independent of The Muppets themselves. Anything that frames the Rivers of America should, in my opinion, speak to a specific American place as viewed through the lens of Americana.