News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

[Kirby86]

Does anyone know if they typically run attraction ideas by focus groups?

In this day and age probably. As fun as it is to chuckle at the water tower, I'm curious as to what the actual ride will be though.

 

[Tha Realest]

Does anyone know if they typically run attraction ideas by focus groups?

The focus group was TWDC DEI committee.

 

[Dear Prudence]

@The Mom is not actively policing the forum 24 hours a day. If you see a comment that’s bound to get deleted, it doesn’t mean it’s been given the a-okay. It means the staff monitoring the site have finite time and are human. They’re not omnipresent, they have lives outside this forum.

They do a very good job monitoring the forum, all things considered.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Okay, but someone photoshopped the Animaniacs onto that water tower and it's a VAST IMPROVEMENT

 

[Dear Prudence]

I supported the retheme from Song of the South to Princess and the Frog mainly because I thought the Princess and the Frog was a great concept for a Bayou flume ride. But if they get rid of Dr. Facillier, the Friends on the Otherside, and the fireflies, a lot of the appeal of the retheme is lost.

The fireflies as a loss. The voodoo nonsense is good gone.

Funny how so many people who are upset out the attractions current form have no problems with voodoo.

Wake me up when it's over.

 

[Jrb1979]

I understand that the attractions of Pandora went through extensive changes from first announcement of the land to its final form.

IMO this is exactly why you don't announce any of this til you get the plans for the final form.

 

[Dear Prudence]

IMO this is exactly why you don't announce any of this til you get the plans for the final form.

I am inclined to agree. It just comes across as ill-prepared and sloppy. The Toontown revamp came off as more polished, even if I don't like it. I can at least appreciate it seems better handled.

 

[LittleBuford]

I don’t believe they do. But you would think so, since so many people are coming to conclusions about the ride, despite it not existing yet and despite Disney not having given the actual presentation at D23 yet.

I suppose I’m guilty of jumping to conclusions too, but I have to admit that the backstory they’ve come up with seems a total dud to me. I hope (truly, sincerely hope) that they prove me wrong, because till now, I’ve had faith in this project.

 

[Dear Prudence]

I suppose I’m guilty of jumping to conclusions too, but I have to admit that the backstory they’ve come up with seems a total dud to me. I hope (truly, sincerely hope) that they prove me wrong, because till now, I’ve had faith in this project.

The only things they've given us to base anything on have been clumsy, cheap, and lazy output that seems badly put together. It's not a great leap to go immediately to the worst conclusion, if I can be honest.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I suppose I’m guilty of jumping to conclusions too, but I have to admit that the backstory they’ve come up with seems a total dud to me. I hope (truly, sincerely hope) that they prove me wrong, because till now, I’ve had faith in this project.

I’m going to wait until I ride it.

We shall see.

 

[CJR]

Park fans won't win since they're losing a piece of Disney Parks history. Fans of the attraction as it currently sits won't win because, well, they're seeing the attraction get gutted for what appears to be a lesser experience. And Tiana fans won't win because this is not what anyone thinks when they talk about a Princess and the Frog ride.

Not to mention, it excludes anyone under 40 inches and will split families with small children apart. A purpose built attraction could have been designed thrilling, but also inclusive for the whole family.

Not to mention, DHS could have really used a ride like the one that should have been made. It's the only US Disney park that I can think with zero water rides.

 

[Ghost93]

As far as it looks, voodoo (or Disney's version of voodoo) will still be in the attraction with Mama Odie.

 

[dreday3]

I lterally had no idea what I said would be problematic. Learn everyday. All a person can do.

Sorry all. Back to topic.

 

[Dear Prudence]

They could shoo-in other magical ideas. Doesn't have to be voodoo.

Tokyo Splash Mountain had this whole backstory about a bootlegging raccoon who flooded the whatever and Disneyland Splash had some stuff about the Rainbow Ponds being enchanted (a throwback to other rainbow-titled themes and motifs and named placed in Frontierland and such). Over the years Disneyland Splash has had narratives such as "we hear rumors about singing, laughing animals, etc." They could really come up with something cute for this time around with lots of magic! One of the things I like the most about both films for Pinocchio and Snow White is that both of those worlds exist with an incredible amount of magic and rule/world building they never completely explain. There are a lot of really marvelous possibilities.

 

[matt9112]

OC Register did a big spill of info regarding the ride. https://www.ocregister.com/2022/09/...e-tianas-bayou-adventure-details-at-d23-expo/

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure riders will ascend the lift hill through a mill house built into the side of the mountain powered by water troughs feeding a spinning water wheel.

Musical critters seen in the show scenes of the revamped log flume attraction will include an otter audio-animatronic playing a fiddle made from a tin can, tree bark and fishing line.

Magical lighting effects triggered by the film’s voodoo priestess Mama Odie will fill the hilltop cavern with glowing colors just before riders descend the log ride’s dramatic drop.

Tiana’s Splash Mountain land grab at Disneyland is expected to force the annexation of the Critter Country attraction into neighboring New Orleans Square."

the bolded text specifically has implictly led us to believe friends from the other side will not be in it. No one has super concrete evidence though so who knows.

How the heck is the final drop not a friends from the other side moment?!

 

[Midwest Elitist]

Tokyo Splash Mountain had this whole backstory about a bootlegging raccoon who flooded the whatever and Disneyland Splash had some stuff about the Rainbow Ponds being enchanted (a throwback to other rainbow-titled themes and motifs and named placed in Frontierland and such). Over the years Disneyland Splash has had narratives such as "we hear rumors about singing, laughing animals, etc." They could really come up with something cute for this time around with lots of magic! One of the things I like the most about both films for Pinocchio and Snow White is that both of those worlds exist with an incredible amount of magic and rule/world building they never completely explain. There are a lot of really marvelous possibilities.

Exactly. There's a point where we can agree something is problematic, but there's other solutions instead of axing those ideas completely. The interesting thing about voodoo is the magical aspect. So, substitute with some other form of magic? It's magic, it doesn't exist, just make it up!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Voodoo?!

 

[Dear Prudence]

Exactly. There's a point where we can agree something is problematic, but there's other solutions instead of axing those ideas completely. The interesting thing about voodoo is the magical aspect. So, substitute with some other form of magic? It's magic, it doesn't exist, just make it up!

^all of THIS.

Also, just as a sidebar, I know we're all giving the new backstory a bit of a hard time, but that Tokyo being an incredibly elaborate backstory (of a soda station, no less) is also rather A LOT.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Anyway, someone said that there are still fireflies on the model and I feel slightly better.

 

[Tha Realest]

It is mildly amusing that Disney looked at a log flume dark ride and thought- employee owned food cooperative that bolsters neighboring communities was a good angle for a backstory.

That might work in a restaurant... maybe. But even then that'd be a tough theme to execute.

But in a dark ride? What's the story gonna be- they ran out of milk so Tiana has to make it to Costco before they close?

This was from July. This feels like a train wreck.

Where’s the tension? That she has to make it to the party in time? That people in the community are…not in harmony?