News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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tanc

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I saw someone link to another press saying WDW is keeping the boat, yet Scott says it is staying... what is even going on lol
 

Model3 McQueen

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Is this the future of every Disney ride moving forward? I enjoy WDW as a means of escape. Do I need the back story that Tiana's company is employee-owned so I can enjoy it more, knowing she is not exploiting her workers? Good night...what a world.

Restaurant servers make less than minimum wage on the condition they can make up for it in tips. Restaurant staff have an unbelievably high turnover rate. What exactly does "employee owned" mean? Does every employee have a permanent share of Tiana's company?

That's just where my mind was going. What does Disney want us to believe here?
 

dreday3

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This feels like an epic troll move, TBH. Like, you remake two entire rides because of uncomfortable associations, and then you create a ride for your only African American Princess that 1) is a thrill ride that’s imposing to many people, kids and adults alike, with one of the most stringent height requirements, and 2) set it in salt mines with a wel documented history of using slave labor and indentured servants.

Did anyone think through these implications, both practically (little princesses won’t be able to ride, or will be too afraid to) and thematically (historical associations with the real life analogue)?

They had all the ingredients (eh?) for the perfect ride. Fireflies, a bayou, Mama Odie, friends on the other side....I'll reserve judgement until we know what will be inside, just not sure how that will all tie into...salt mines. 😂
 

CaptainAmerica

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Restaurant servers make less than minimum wage on the condition they can make up for it in tips. Restaurant staff have an unbelievably high turnover rate. What exactly does "employee owned" mean? Does every employee have a permanent share of Tiana's company?

That's just where my mind was going. What does Disney want us to believe here?
She's not a restauranteur in this timeline, she runs an agricultural conglomerate.

It's like... you own your farm, I own my farm, and we open a business together called "Cap's Corn," which sells corn from both of our farms.
 

ToTBellHop

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They had all the ingredients (eh?) for the perfect ride. Fireflies, a bayou, Mama Odie, friends on the other side....I'll reserve judgement until we know what will be inside, just not sure how that will all tie into...salt mines. 😂
So it’s a Pinocchio ride, then? Where will Monstro be?
 

DisneyDodo

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Is this the future of every Disney ride moving forward? I enjoy WDW as a means of escape. Do I need the back story that Tiana's company is employee-owned so I can enjoy it more, knowing she is not exploiting her workers? Good night...what a world.
It’s hilarious on multiple levels that they shoved that irrelevant piece of info into the backstory. Firstly, there’s the irony of a gigantic, publicly traded media conglomerate implying that traditionally structured corporations are exploitative. And then there’s the fact that Disney is effectively apologizing in advance for a decision they are making now. They didn’t inherit this story. They could’ve kept Tiana as the successful small-business owner she always wanted to be in the film. But they so badly wanted to get the salt mine in there that they forced a story they anticipated garnering criticism, and are trying to shield themselves from it with nonsense explanations.
 

ToTBellHop

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It’s hilarious on multiple levels that they shoved that irrelevant piece of info into the backstory. Firstly, there’s the irony of a gigantic, publicly traded media conglomerate implying that traditionally structured corporations are exploitative. And then there’s the fact that Disney is effectively apologizing in advance for a decision they are making now. They didn’t inherit this story. They could’ve kept Tiana as the successful small-business owner she always wanted to be in the film. But they so badly wanted to get the salt mine in there that they forced a story they anticipated garnering criticism, and are trying to shield themselves from it with nonsense explanations.
I don’t know why they are trying so hard to make the mountain make sense. It didn’t really make sense as Splash in Georgia swamps, either.
 

Tha Realest

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They had all the ingredients (eh?) for the perfect ride. Fireflies, a bayou, Mama Odie, friends on the other side....I'll reserve judgement until we know what will be inside, just not sure how that will all tie into...salt mines. 😂
The original press release promised an experience which offered all the charms of New Orleans as a backdrop.

Instead, it’s centered on a random salt mine located 138 miles away. That’s a lot of ground to cover in 1920’s/30’s era Louisiana. I’d say it’s a bait and switch but that presumes a lot more forethought than went into this.

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DisneyDodo

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They’re really leaning into the salt mine thing, huh? That’s amazing! Hope no one has Google (or an adequate education in US history).

And putting aside the specific history of this particular location, am I the only one familiar with the idioms “working in a salt mine” or “back to the salt mine” to describe laboring in a depressing, repetitive, and/or exploitative environment?

Well, at least as a business owner in 1927 America, it’s all smooth sailing ahead for Tiana. Not a cloud in the sky as we glide into the next, promising decade.
I heard that they’re just testing the waters (no pun intended) with the salt mine idea, and if people take issue with it, they’ll just change Tiana’s business to Plan B — a sweatshop
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Okay so then report it and every other post on this entire website and have it removed. Ive been here for over 2 decades and EVERY thread has gone off topic but this one bc it of its roots gets people who have certain views annoyed and whining to stay on topic…
You know this thread is unique with regards to what is and isn't permitted. But consider yourself reported.
 

tanc

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Are they actually not using music from the movie?
OC Register did a big spill of info regarding the ride. https://www.ocregister.com/2022/09/...e-tianas-bayou-adventure-details-at-d23-expo/

Tiana’s Bayou Adventure riders will ascend the lift hill through a mill house built into the side of the mountain powered by water troughs feeding a spinning water wheel.

Musical critters seen in the show scenes of the revamped log flume attraction will include an otter audio-animatronic playing a fiddle made from a tin can, tree bark and fishing line.

Magical lighting effects triggered by the film’s voodoo priestess Mama Odie will fill the hilltop cavern with glowing colors just before riders descend the log ride’s dramatic drop.

Tiana’s Splash Mountain land grab at Disneyland is expected to force the annexation of the Critter Country attraction into neighboring New Orleans Square."

the bolded text specifically has implictly led us to believe friends from the other side will not be in it. No one has super concrete evidence though so who knows.
 

dreday3

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But even I can say this storyline is incredibly stupid. Why on earth do we want to see Tiana and her neighbors coming together to build a food conglomerate?

It's just dumb. It's okay to admit it. :D

And yes, I'll still ride it because it's still a fun water ride!
 

Tha Realest

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OC Register did a big spill of info regarding the ride. https://www.ocregister.com/2022/09/...e-tianas-bayou-adventure-details-at-d23-expo/



the bolded text specifically has implictly led us to believe friends from the other side will not be in it. No one has super concrete evidence though so who knows.
We could quibble over whether or not forcing PATF into this ride was a good idea. But Facilier/Friends From the Other Side was a slam dunk. That they’ve moved away from that is…I just don’t get it.

Also, this is what the interior of the ride is shaping up to be:

“According to the backstory, the employee-owned food cooperative is housed inside the aging salt mine within the former Splash Mountain with growers planting crops along the waterway that flows around the famed mountain peak.”

Y’all they’re building LIVING WITH THE LAND
 

dreday3

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And lastly, ;), the ride based on the movie that everyone loves (including me), won't feature a "Princess" Tiana? Or Ray and Evangeline? Or Louis???

I don't believe that's possible - they will be there somehow. I'm going to go with - this will all work itself out somehow. :D
 
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