News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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Disney Glimpses

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Am I the only one that thinks this project is incredibly financially irresponsible right now? The financial health of the company wasn't good enough to build some new things at EPCOT that would actually attract guests but it is good enough to re-theme an already immensely popular attraction. And then there are the massive macro economic factors that are going to ultimately affect Disney's attendance as we inch closer to a recession.
 

kalel8145

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Am I the only one that thinks this project is incredibly financially irresponsible right now? The financial health of the company wasn't good enough to build some new things at EPCOT that would actually attract guests but it is good enough to re-theme an already immensely popular attraction. And then there are the massive macro economic factors that are going to ultimately affect Disney's attendance as we inch closer to a recession.
So is this a confirmed 100% getting ready to happen? Still a maybe? Or Disney kicking the can down the road in hopes everyone will forget?
 

MisterPenguin

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Am I the only one that thinks this project is incredibly financially irresponsible right now? The financial health of the company wasn't good enough to build some new things at EPCOT that would actually attract guests but it is good enough to re-theme an already immensely popular attraction. And then there are the massive macro economic factors that are going to ultimately affect Disney's attendance as we inch closer to a recession.
You make a lot of assumptions here:

1. Disney Corp is just fine financially. You only have to look at their quarterlies. The pandemic could've killed them. It didn't. Disney held near break even, and now, printing billions.

2. The "failure" to invest in Epcot wasn't financial in that they didn't have the money, it was financial in that they didn't want to spend it. If the park was making tons of money (it was), then why change anything? It was only the 50th Anniversary and recent changes (FP+ didn't solve crowding problems) that they finally did something.

3. It's not necessary that we're heading into a recession. Those who've been saying so since the lockdowns ended have been wrong. This past quarter had a relatively small dip in GDP. A recession is 2 quarters of GDP shrinkage. And the WSJ is predicting GDP growth to return next quarter.

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ToTBellHop

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You make a lot of assumptions here:

1. Disney Corp is just fine financially. You only have to look at their quarterlies. The pandemic could've killed them. It didn't. Disney held near break even, and now, printing billions.

2. The "failure" to invest in Epcot wasn't financial in that they didn't have the money, it was financial in that they didn't want to spend it. If the park was making tons of money (it was), then why change anything? It was only the 50th Anniversary and recent changes (FP+ didn't solve crowding problems) that they finally did something.

3. It's not necessary that we're heading into a recession. Those who've been saying so since the lockdowns ended have been wrong. This past quarter had a relatively small dip in GDP. A recession is 2 quarters of GDP shrinkage. And the WSJ is predicting GDP growth to return next quarter.

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I just think Frog is a waste of money.

Make Splash presentable. Keep on not referring to slavery in any way (so keep it as it has been for 30 years…) and build a PatF water ride at DHS.

And…go!
 

Disney Glimpses

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You make a lot of assumptions here:

1. Disney Corp is just fine financially. You only have to look at their quarterlies. The pandemic could've killed them. It didn't. Disney held near break even, and now, printing billions.

2. The "failure" to invest in Epcot wasn't financial in that they didn't have the money, it was financial in that they didn't want to spend it. If the park was making tons of money (it was), then why change anything? It was only the 50th Anniversary and recent changes (FP+ didn't solve crowding problems) that they finally did something.

3. It's not necessary that we're heading into a recession. Those who've been saying so since the lockdowns ended have been wrong. This past quarter had a relatively small dip in GDP. A recession is 2 quarters of GDP shrinkage. And the WSJ is predicting GDP growth to return next quarter.

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Fair points but it still isn't the most favorable financial environment to do this project. That's really what I was dialing down to, even if I embellished it a bit.
 
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