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News Splash Mountain retheme to Princess and the Frog - Tiana's Bayou Adventure

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J4546

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I think patf should get its own land north of hm and iasw showbuilding. Reconfigure hm que and create a path to that new area. Water based ride, dining, shops, and a new rail station as well as a new Orleans/bayou waterfront area.
 

owlsandcoffee

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I think patf should get its own land north of hm and iasw showbuilding. Reconfigure hm que and create a path to that new area. Water based ride, dining, shops, and a new rail station as well as a new Orleans/bayou waterfront area.
I have considered a dumb and likely unpopular Blue Sky idea...which would be to demolish SM and build PatF Splash in the NE corner of the park, with a small NOLA-themed area similar to the current Splash area. There are ways to blend Storybook Circus into that...would literally never happen because it would be both expensive and a waste of money. It would put Tiana in Fantasyland, get rid of the Br'ers, and balance out the park crowds a bit better. Again, it's very dumb logistically.
 

Ghost93

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On this week's Daily Dish, @lentesta and Jim Hill offered speculation that DL's reskin was still on track, whereas WDW's is not. One of the reasons was the absolute paucity of information we've heard since the announcement. Just before that discussion, they mentioned the lack of new attractions and endemic capacity problems WDW finds itself in. With the capital outlays required for new attractions, and Epic Universe coming online soon, taking a perfectly functioning attraction offline for 2 years or so (and a few hundred million to change it) that doesn't increase capacity seems like a foolish step.
Jim Hill also started a rumor back in 2005 that Disney was going to re-release Song of the South on DVD in the fall of 2006 for its 60th anniversary. He continued to make several claims in the later 2000s about how Disney was planning to use Princess and the Frog as a way to soften criticisms of a Song of the South re-release.

So while I enjoy listening to his podcast, I don't think he has the best track record when it comes to SotS related news.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Jim Hill also started a rumor back in 2005 that Disney was going to re-release Song of the South on DVD in the fall of 2006 for its 60th anniversary.

Credible rumor or not, that honestly seemed like a plausible concept at the time.

Maybe if Eisner has stayed on another year it might have happened. Not because he himself was big on the idea, but he may have trusted the home video division and archives to do a tasteful job. Once Iger came on board, the overall back catalog became much less important.
 

Tha Realest

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Credible rumor or not, that honestly seemed like a plausible concept at the time.

Maybe if Eisner has stayed on another year it might have happened. Not because he himself was big on the idea, but he may have trusted the home video division and archives to do a tasteful job. Once Iger came on board, the overall back catalog became much less important.
One could argue that the "replace SM with PATF" was an Iger-pushed initiative
 

Ghost93

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Credible rumor or not, that honestly seemed like a plausible concept at the time.

Maybe if Eisner has stayed on another year it might have happened. Not because he himself was big on the idea, but he may have trusted the home video division and archives to do a tasteful job. Once Iger came on board, the overall back catalog became much less important.
I don't think Eisner hated Song of the South the way Iger did. After all, Esiner approved the 1986 re-release in theaters, he greenlit a Song of the South-themed Splash Mountain and allowed the movie to be sold on VHS overseas. I think Eisner was afraid of the backlash a U.S. release would cause, whereas Iger disliked the movie itself.
 

RSoxNo1

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Jim Hill also started a rumor back in 2005 that Disney was going to re-release Song of the South on DVD in the fall of 2006 for its 60th anniversary. He continued to make several claims in the later 2000s about how Disney was planning to use Princess and the Frog as a way to soften criticisms of a Song of the South re-release.

So while I enjoy listening to his podcast, I don't think he has the best track record when it comes to SotS related news.
Wasn't Bob Chapek in charge of the Disney Vault back then?
 

JustInTime

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Am I the only one that thinks this project is incredibly financially irresponsible right now? The financial health of the company wasn't good enough to build some new things at EPCOT that would actually attract guests but it is good enough to re-theme an already immensely popular attraction. And then there are the massive macro economic factors that are going to ultimately affect Disney's attendance as we inch closer to a recession.
I could be wrong, but I believe the money was already set aside for all Epcot projects. Those funds were diverted to the sensitivity projects like Jungle Cruise and Splash.
 

Kirby86

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Jungle Cruise would have been a relatively cheap and easy ride to change. They removed a few figures added a few more animal animatronics and had the cast members memorize a new script if they were skippers. Not saying it cost nothing but I'd take a guess it wasn't an extremely expensive change. Extremely expensive for Disney standards I mean.
 

Comped

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Am I the only one that thinks this project is incredibly financially irresponsible right now? The financial health of the company wasn't good enough to build some new things at EPCOT that would actually attract guests but it is good enough to re-theme an already immensely popular attraction. And then there are the massive macro economic factors that are going to ultimately affect Disney's attendance as we inch closer to a recession.
No you're not, not in the slightest!
 

celluloid

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I don't think Eisner hated Song of the South the way Iger did. After all, Esiner approved the 1986 re-release in theaters, he greenlit a Song of the South-themed Splash Mountain and allowed the movie to be sold on VHS overseas. I think Eisner was afraid of the backlash a U.S. release would cause, whereas Iger disliked the movie itself.

Then Iger approved Mars Needs Moms and similar situations, so I think it is clear who had a better palate for art.
 

𝐌𝖆𝖓 𝖎𝖓 𝐖𝖊𝖇

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You can check back in the thread for the previous hundred times that's been brought up.
'though never explained.

Personally I don't know if Mama Odie's enchantment is powerful enough to pull it off so I can only naturally assume that Disney has somehow perfected the Stilinski tech from "Honey, I Shrunk the Kids" and we'll somehow be shrink-rayed in the queue. It's from this frog-sized perspective where it starts to make sense.
 
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