Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[Chris767]

In short, no. Many of the animatronics used in Splash were repurposed from America Sings originally. You can do away with the cringey story, while still tastefully nodding to the nostalgia/charm of the original attraction experience. I can’t see them moving forward on this project without doing that.

Hopefully those anamatronics can stay and just sing new songs

 

[RCID]

I am a liberal. I think publicly displaying the confederate flag is terrible. I also think parts of our history is terrible and it’s about time the real Columbus is portrayed to those who didn’t know his doings. However, changing this ride due to a vocal minority is wrong and dangerous. Will me having the picture below on my wall be seen as flying a confederate flag? I hope not. What about wearing a Splash Mountain shirt at the park? Will you get asked to turn it inside out? What’s next on this slippery slope? Tom Sawyer Island? Some of the parts on the railroad? Country Bears? Come to think of it, the golden age of Hollywood was racist, sexist and full of violence. You couldn’t be LGBT and if you were pregnant and not married the studios would force issues. Let’s get rid of Hollywood Studios too.

I better take my picture down. Again I am a bleeding heart liberal and I have these views. This is scarier than the virus.
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I had to run...but just wanted to quote this post and say how much I agreed with it.
I’m a VERY liberal person, but this is dangerous. I support tearing down the statues, but it’s a slippery slope...

 

[jt04]

You’ve been wrong before. Unfortunately you’re likely to be wrong again.

They're bringing in Tony Baxter to advise so there's that.

 

[Kate F]

I guess there are a lot of raciest on this site based on the poll results. lol

You’re kidding, right?

 

[Disney.Mike]

, they seem to love oil more than a sailor in a Bangkok massage parlor.

Thanks for the reminder of my sailor days

 

[Figgy1]

Holy f***... 187 pages? Can someone summarize what I missed out on? #ThisShouldBeGood

Lots of name calling and not enough what do we think the new ride will be like and when do we think it will happen and not enough we need beignets

 

[jt04]

Disney is way, way ahead of you.

Great news!

 

[haveyoumetmark]

My guess is we will get at least one or two really nice new AAs, reuse of the animal AAs (some of them), new projection effects and mist fog effects and maybe a few new lower quality AAs like Mermaid.

I think they’ll keep the riverboat from the current ride and just retheme it.

I think this is right on the money...

 

[Club Cooloholic]

One last thing I want to place before I leave this nightmare thread to be.
Let's remove everything about song of the south's history alone and focus on the new ride.
The fact that princess and the frog, a movie that flopped but gained cult classic status was deamed worthy of disney for replacing one of their biggest rides is a HUGE deal. It's a sign that not only does disney listen to their customers but could also be a potential sign of future change from the company. Look towards the postives rather than type 185 pages on how disney is suddenly marxist for changing a ride.

How have sales been for Song of South? And they have listened to "some" customers.

 

[RCID]

This post indicates to me that you don't understand the perspective of those who are saying they are hurt by the ride's association with the film.

And frankly I can’t go without responding to this....that’s a pretty big assumption you’re taking there. I would say the opposite....I get why people would be offended but if you can’t see that all of those attractions I listed are just as problematic for various groups you need to take a long look at it.

Are we going to change everything? Or fix forward and learn from our past?

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

I mean not everything he did was perfect and said it himself. Everything Walt did was basically from IPs...Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Snow White, etc. weren’t his original ideas. People seem to forget that

Yes, they also seem to forget (or ignore) that pretty much ALL of literature is adapted from ideas and stories that came before.

Even Shakespeare.

I'm mixed on the idea of changing Splash, but I've now read most of this thread. And this idea has not been emphasized enough in this thread.

Is Splash Mountain the same as SotS, or does it represent a unique creation? If you say it can never be a unique creation , then more or less, that has to be true about almost all literature. And I mean just about all of it, even our religious texts have often borrowed from each other, and the stories that came before them.

Most of the literature we hold dear has evolved from earlier literature. Back to the days of oral literature. Our earliest stories, were told and re-told for year before they were written down.

 

[JohnD]

Disney is way, way ahead of you.

I’m cool. I just know today’s environment. Disney has to go out of their way to proclaim the minority Imagineer involvement. And it better be 51% or better. Period.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I am familiar with the history, but even the number in America Sings was a tribute to the Song of the South, which is an American inspried movie. The number in the show was Zip a Dee Do Dah. I was just pointing out the irony that people think that it could be removed due to some percieved racism yet it is going to maybe have a nod. It is to get more revenue and IP in the parks like we knew the mission was for years, avoiding contreversy in the sensative times is just a huge bonus to exellerate the project.

Zipadeedoodah was in Mickey Mouse Revue. Not America Sings.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I have to assume a lot of the Splash animatronics will be reused for background characters. Especially those frogs. Wouldn’t be surprised if they leave a Brer Rabbit somewhere either.

They’ll leave million dollar bunny. He never works anyways, so nobody will even see him!

 

[dig311dug]

“They had to change this ride because of massive complaints by two people” - Lisa Simpson

 

[comics101]

They're bringing in Tony Baxter to advise so there's that.

“Advise.”

 

[Bairstow]

I’m cool. I just know today’s environment. Disney has to go out of their way to proclaim the minority Imagineer involvement. And it better be 51% or better. Period.

Or else what?
There are no rules here.
Disney put who they thought should be in charge of the project, either for public relations reasons or because the company felt it was the right thing to do. No one forced them to put Carter in charge of this the same way no one is forcing them to build this overlay.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

The source material is Song of the South.

Are you familiar with Ralph Ellison's writing?

 

[noodles]

You think black people are perpetual crybabies?

Or that racism present in all facets of American life down to the smallest things like a Disney water ride don’t exist?

Life is tough. You can move on, or whine for a few centuries.
Will every generation have to continue to carry this guilt?
When will it be enough?
All the principals died long, long ago. What we have now are people with excuses at the ready and hate in their hearts. Well, only the elite owned slaves, so cry to their families. I have enough real problems to keep me from caring about your percieved slights.

 

[JohnD]

Zipadeedoodah was in Mickey Mouse Revue. Not America Sings.

Better purchase the WDW CD or Disney Classics sets now because that song is going the way of tHe Do Do.