Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[jt04]

Disney is way, way ahead of you.

Great news!

 

[haveyoumetmark]

My guess is we will get at least one or two really nice new AAs, reuse of the animal AAs (some of them), new projection effects and mist fog effects and maybe a few new lower quality AAs like Mermaid.

I think they’ll keep the riverboat from the current ride and just retheme it.

I think this is right on the money...

 

[Club Cooloholic]

One last thing I want to place before I leave this nightmare thread to be.
Let's remove everything about song of the south's history alone and focus on the new ride.
The fact that princess and the frog, a movie that flopped but gained cult classic status was deamed worthy of disney for replacing one of their biggest rides is a HUGE deal. It's a sign that not only does disney listen to their customers but could also be a potential sign of future change from the company. Look towards the postives rather than type 185 pages on how disney is suddenly marxist for changing a ride.

How have sales been for Song of South? And they have listened to "some" customers.

 

[RCID]

This post indicates to me that you don't understand the perspective of those who are saying they are hurt by the ride's association with the film.

And frankly I can’t go without responding to this....that’s a pretty big assumption you’re taking there. I would say the opposite....I get why people would be offended but if you can’t see that all of those attractions I listed are just as problematic for various groups you need to take a long look at it.

Are we going to change everything? Or fix forward and learn from our past?

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

I mean not everything he did was perfect and said it himself. Everything Walt did was basically from IPs...Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Snow White, etc. weren’t his original ideas. People seem to forget that

Yes, they also seem to forget (or ignore) that pretty much ALL of literature is adapted from ideas and stories that came before.

Even Shakespeare.

I'm mixed on the idea of changing Splash, but I've now read most of this thread. And this idea has not been emphasized enough in this thread.

Is Splash Mountain the same as SotS, or does it represent a unique creation? If you say it can never be a unique creation , then more or less, that has to be true about almost all literature. And I mean just about all of it, even our religious texts have often borrowed from each other, and the stories that came before them.

Most of the literature we hold dear has evolved from earlier literature. Back to the days of oral literature. Our earliest stories, were told and re-told for year before they were written down.

 

[JohnD]

Disney is way, way ahead of you.

I’m cool. I just know today’s environment. Disney has to go out of their way to proclaim the minority Imagineer involvement. And it better be 51% or better. Period.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I am familiar with the history, but even the number in America Sings was a tribute to the Song of the South, which is an American inspried movie. The number in the show was Zip a Dee Do Dah. I was just pointing out the irony that people think that it could be removed due to some percieved racism yet it is going to maybe have a nod. It is to get more revenue and IP in the parks like we knew the mission was for years, avoiding contreversy in the sensative times is just a huge bonus to exellerate the project.

Zipadeedoodah was in Mickey Mouse Revue. Not America Sings.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I have to assume a lot of the Splash animatronics will be reused for background characters. Especially those frogs. Wouldn’t be surprised if they leave a Brer Rabbit somewhere either.

They’ll leave million dollar bunny. He never works anyways, so nobody will even see him!

 

[dig311dug]

“They had to change this ride because of massive complaints by two people” - Lisa Simpson

 

[comics101]

They're bringing in Tony Baxter to advise so there's that.

“Advise.”

 

[Bairstow]

I’m cool. I just know today’s environment. Disney has to go out of their way to proclaim the minority Imagineer involvement. And it better be 51% or better. Period.

Or else what?
There are no rules here.
Disney put who they thought should be in charge of the project, either for public relations reasons or because the company felt it was the right thing to do. No one forced them to put Carter in charge of this the same way no one is forcing them to build this overlay.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

The source material is Song of the South.

Are you familiar with Ralph Ellison's writing?

 

[noodles]

You think black people are perpetual crybabies?

Or that racism present in all facets of American life down to the smallest things like a Disney water ride don’t exist?

Life is tough. You can move on, or whine for a few centuries.
Will every generation have to continue to carry this guilt?
When will it be enough?
All the principals died long, long ago. What we have now are people with excuses at the ready and hate in their hearts. Well, only the elite owned slaves, so cry to their families. I have enough real problems to keep me from caring about your percieved slights.

 

[JohnD]

Zipadeedoodah was in Mickey Mouse Revue. Not America Sings.

Better purchase the WDW CD or Disney Classics sets now because that song is going the way of tHe Do Do.

 

[Brer Oswald]

Better purchase the WDW CD or Disney Classics sets now because that song is going the way of tHe Do Do.

I’ve pirated it several times. The beauty of this is that Splash made it to the digital age. They can try as hard as they like to erase its existence, but they never will.

 

[thomas998]

I’m cool. I just know today’s environment. Disney has to go out of their way to proclaim the minority Imagineer involvement. And it better be 51% or better. Period.

Maybe that's why Disney replaced as many American IT personnel with people from India... Oh, no.. that was just to save money any diversity was just an unexpected bonus.

 

[jt04]

I’m cool. I just know today’s environment. Disney has to go out of their way to proclaim the minority Imagineer involvement. And it better be 51% or better. Period.

The success of MMRR might also be a factor. Just sayin. If this is at that level plus it will be very popular and successful.

 

[patrok65]

So what type of budget are we looking at for this? Are they going to be cheap. I can’t see wdw management wanting Splash down for long.

 

[haveyoumetmark]

The success of MMRR might also be a factor. Just sayin. If this is at that level plus it will be very popular and successful.

Right? How ignorant to completely erase all of that imagineer’s success and talent to suggest that tokenism is taking place

 

[MythBuster]

It's an excellent podcast about old hollywood and an even more thorough insight on the troupes and roots of the traditions upon which song of the south was built and epitomizes. Really encourage people to listen, its eye opening.

Brer Rabbit, trickster figure originating in African folklore and transmitted by African slaves to the New World, where it acquired attributes of similar native American tricksters (see trickster tale); Brer, or Brother, Rabbit was popularized in the United States in the stories of Joel Chandler Harris (1848–1908). The character’s adventures embody an idea considered to be a universal creation among oppressed peoples—that a small, weak, but ingenious force can overcome a larger, stronger, but dull-witted power. Brer Rabbit continually outsmarts his bigger animal associates, Brer Fox, Brer Wolf, and Brer Bear.

Brer Rabbit | African-American, Trickster, Tales | Britannica

Brer Rabbit, trickster figure originating in African folklore and transmitted by African slaves to the New World, where it acquired attributes of similar native American tricksters (see trickster tale); Brer, or Brother, Rabbit was popularized in the United States in the stories of Joel Chandler

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