Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[Mr Mindcrime]

However, changing this ride due to a vocal minority is wrong and dangerous.

The problem is, this is exactly what is happening and will keep happening. In today's environment, nothing is or will be safe. Once a change is accomplished or a statue torn down, the offended will go looking for something else. One might agree with this week's issue or protest, but watch out next week when they come after something you support. The tables will turn.

Common sense has left the building in part because society, now so more than ever, is about "me" and "my feelings" and less about others and the common good.

 

[LittleBuford]

I’ll be interested in how they explain an incline and a drop for New Orleans though!

The concept art shows the hill rethemed as Mama Odie's tree, which I think is a convincing enough way to deal with the issue.

 

[comics101]

That’s not the point...

https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/common-logical-fallacies

Given that @Phil12 said, "Also Br'er Frog replaces Uncle Remus as the story teller at the start of the ride as he begins to tell the tale of Br'er Rabbit..."

I'm pretty sure it was his point. Phil was essentially claiming that Frog and Remus should be seen as one and the same, since they play similar roles in terms of narrating the story.

 

[celluloid]

Disney: mirror mirror on the wall, who is the most woke off us all
mirror: Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay!!!

Magic

I've already been several times. No idea when I'll be back there but would be nice if it remained an option.

I am sure they will pass on the change unless it so well done they feel like it is worth it, but that culture tends to love anything cute and cartoony with rodents.
Also, they still sell Song of the South of home video there. So you know, Disney is making money of it there.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

Yeah, I don’t foresee this change taking place in Tokyo either. I think it’s appropriate for the US though.

I agree. The OLC probably doesn't want to change the ride. Plus Splash merch is very popular overseas.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

@marni1971 sorry if you have already said it but whats your opinion on this change? And what other IP's were Disney considering besides Princess and the Frog.

 

[haveyoumetmark]

The problem is, this is exactly what is happening and will keep happening. In today's environment, nothing is or will be safe. Once a change is accomplished or a statue torn down, the offended will go looking for something else. One might agree with this week's issue or protest, but watch out next week when they come after something you support. The tables will turn.

Common sense has left the building in part because society, now so more than ever, is about "me" and "my feelings" and less about others and the common good.

Strikes me as fear-mongering and sensationalism. People have been fighting for changes like this for decades on end....

The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. It’s understandable, though, to feel threatened when perspectives different from yours begin to inch toward getting equal footing.

 

[LittleBuford]

However, changing this ride due to a vocal minority is wrong and dangerous.

I don't think that's why they're changing the ride. The calls for a retheme just haven't been loud or numerous enough. Rather, I think that Disney realises that the perceived issues with the ride won't go away with time. This is a preemptive rather than a reactive move.

 

[Mr Mindcrime]

Look towards the postives rather than type 185 pages on how disney is suddenly marxist for changing a ride

I 100% agree in looking for positives. I'm well known to my family and friends as the eternal optimist. But I think your position ignores the fact that the passionate defense of Splash Mountain as it exists is not just for the attraction itself. It also relates to the fact that in our world today, it only takes a small yet vocal minority to cause change and sometimes change that a great majority don't want to see. Do you want to live in a society where change has to be made because a small number of folks say so? Because if you do, then as I said earlier, get ready because that small minority will come after something you DON'T want changed. It will never stop until society is dismantled.

 

[JohnD]

The problem is, this is exactly what is happening and will keep happening. In today's environment, nothing is or will be safe. Once a change is accomplished or a statue torn down, the offended will go looking for something else. One might agree with this week's issue or protest, but watch out next week when they come after something you support. The tables will turn.

Common sense has left the building in part because society, now so more than ever, is about "me" and "my feelings" and less about others and the common good.

Also it’s great they are bringing back Tony Baxter to contribute to the project. But let’s face it: He’s white. MLK wanted a color blind society. Not good enough in today’s environment. I’m sure there will be minority imagineers working on it. Fine with me. All will give their best. But other bean counters will be calculating the ratiio. And if not enough to their liking after the retheme heads will roll.

 

[MythBuster]

Being objective here: I’ll miss Splash Mountain. It’s a great ride. As for Princess and the Frog, I can’t imagine a ride system that complicated changing its current course. Like Maelstrom it will be rethemed over the same water track. So here’s hoping the music and AAs keep it enjoyable throughout. I’ll be interested in how they explain an incline and a drop for New Orleans though!

I don't think they will change the the actual ride itself, just like Maelstrom. They will only change the show portion, remove all the AA figures and replace with projection and video screens.

 

[Scuttle]

I 100% agree in looking for positives. I'm well known to my family and friends as the eternal optimist. But I think your position ignores the fact that the passionate defense of Splash Mountain as it exists is not just for the attraction itself. It also relates to the fact that in our world today, it only takes a small yet vocal minority to cause change and sometimes change that a great majority don't want to see. Do you want to live in a society where change has to be made because a small number of folks say so? Because if you do, then as I said earlier, get ready because that small minority will come after something you DON'T want changed. It will never stop until society is dismantled.

In a nutshell... social media is ruining this world.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

I don't think they will change the the actual ride itself, just like Maelstrom. They will only change the show portion, remove all the AA figures and replace with projection and video screens.

Nah the ride will definitely have AA's in the ride. I do not see Disney going cheap on the re-theme.

 

[Mr Mindcrime]

Strikes me as fear-mongering and sensationalism. People have been fighting for changes like this for decades on end....

The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice. It’s understandable, though, to feel threatened when perspectives different from yours begin to inch toward getting equal footing.

Nah, not at all. I don't feel threatened in the least. My opinion is certainly in the minority in today's world and even in this forum. And I'm good with that. Sensationalism.... LOL. Look around at the new world. I'm just calling it as it is, I'm not creating it. Of course people fight for changes and many times changes are very positive for society as a whole. But sometimes they are not. Sometimes changes are made just for the controversy and upsetting the status quo. Having a world view that says there can be no opposition or differing opinions is not a free and just world. I personally don't feel like changing an attraction that is beloved by the majority will change anything. Change comes from within our beings, not from an amusement park attraction.

 

[JohnD]

I don't think they will change the the actual ride itself, just like Maelstrom. They will only change the show portion, remove all the AA figures and replace with projection and video screens.

There better be AAs. More immersive.

 

[haveyoumetmark]

I don't think they will change the the actual ride itself, just like Maelstrom. They will only change the show portion, remove all the AA figures and replace with projection and video screens.

This is actually hilarious, but I trust them to do a tasteful retheming that does the new story and original attraction justice. I suspect there will be plenty of nostalgic nods too.

 

[celluloid]

This is actually hilarious, but I trust them to do a tasteful retheming that does the new story and original attraction justice. I suspect there will be plenty of nostalgic nods too.

If racism and offensiveness were the real reasons of change, wouldn't a nod or tribute within kind of deafeat the purpose of removing it? We took out that ride that might remind you of some incensative things in Song of the South, but here are some things to remember about the thing we don't want you to remember anymore.

 

[comics101]

One last thing I want to place before I leave this nightmare thread to be.
Let's remove everything about song of the south's history alone and focus on the new ride.
The fact that princess and the frog, a movie that flopped but gained cult classic status was deamed worthy of disney for replacing one of their biggest rides is a HUGE deal. It's a sign that not only does disney listen to their customers but could also be a potential sign of future change from the company. Look towards the postives rather than type 185 pages on how disney is suddenly marxist for changing a ride.

This is a sign that Disney listens to their customers? What?? This decision is the opposite of listening to guests.

Given Splash Mountain’s wait times and the fact that they haven’t diminished, but have grown over the attraction’s 25 year history, I’m pretty sure if Disney were listening to their customers, they’d leave Splash be, while maybe building a PatF attraction elsewhere.

 

[jt04]

There better be AAs. More immersive.

I'm betting we will get all the latest tech. Including projections and the new MMRR tech. And the newest AAs.

E+ Ticket.

 

[Brer Oswald]

If racism and offensiveness were the real reasons of change, wouldn't a nod or tribute within kind of deafeat the purpose of removing it? We took out that ride that might remind you of some incensative things in Song of the South, but here are some things to remember about the thing we don't want you to remember anymore.

Well, much of Splash’s identity lies with America Sings. Most of it does actually.