Splash Mountain re-theme announced

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Bairstow

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haveyoumetmark said:
Right? How ignorant to completely erase all of that imagineer’s success and talent to suggest that tokenism is taking place
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It's not "tokenism" if they're making her lead on the project.
I think it's fairly apparent that Carter's race does have something to do with her selection, either on principle or for PR reasons.
... and that she's fully qualified for this job.
 
MickeyLuv'r

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Rteetz said:
Those aren't nearly as problematic as Song of the South. People for years have been talking about the controversy behind the ride/film. It is nothing new. The worldwide movement only helped push that through The Walt Disney Company. The company has made great efforts to keep Song of the South locked away.

Do not get me wrong, I LOVE Splash Mountain. However I am not surprised by this move. I hope they change it well and give Princess and the Frog the attraction it deserves.
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Um, women have also been complaining about the Disney Princesses, very loudly since before the founding of Ms. Magazine. I'm pretty sure that concern predates Disney and goes all the way back to suffragettes and the 1848 Seneca Falls Convention. Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton wanted to have their own political identity, not tied to men (= marriage).

This too is nothing new.
 
brb1006

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In light of the news of Splash Mountain getting re-themed to Princess and the Frog. This person from Twitter made an interesting post on modern Disney Ride design from then and now.
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No Name

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comics101 said:
So now quoting Uncle Remus is offensive? I assume you expect Zip a Dee Doo Dah to be banned from the parks from here on out, then?

This is just sad, man.
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You say this as if it’s unfathomable. It’s pretty obvious that the song won’t be heard in the parks once the ride is gone.


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In light of the news of Splash Mountain getting re-themed to Princess and the Frog. This person from Twitter made an interesting post on modern Disney Ride design from then and now.
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Most older rides don’t have the active, linear storytelling of most newer rides. The whole design is very different, and riders’ focus is directed more explicitly. I think that’s what they are conflating here as lack of detail.
 
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disneygeek90 said:
Rise of the resistance? The dang ceiling is themed. Next.
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Interestingly, in Journey of the Little Mermaid, they forgot about the ceiling during the "Under the Sea" song portion of the ride. You look up at all the fun dancing, singing fish and other sea creatures and see the ugly black ceiling with support beams, lights, wires, etc. I often wonder why they didn't do something better to hide that kind of stuff to create a more seamless illusion.
 
Animaniac93-98

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egg said:
You say this as if it’s unfathomable. It’s pretty obvious that the song won’t be heard in the parks once the ride is gone.
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If it's bad to reference SotS in any capacity, even in a censored form or re-contextualized, than the walk-arounds and songs have to go to...

Can't have anything "offensive"
 
brb1006

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From the Disneyland thread on the re-theme.
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Somewhat-related note, I've read that when Splash Mountain was in development, Disney consulted black rights groups over which things from the film should and shouldn't be included. I don't remember the exact details, but I distinctively remember seeing that.
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SuddenStorm said:
And as a result of Disney being sensitive to the issues from the film in the late '80s, no one has ever been offended by Splash mountain and most were completely unaware of its Song of the South roots.
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lazyboy97o

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celluloid said:
If racism and offensiveness were the real reasons of change, wouldn't a nod or tribute within kind of deafeat the purpose of removing it? We took out that ride that might remind you of some incensative things in Song of the South, but here are some things to remember about the thing we don't want you to remember anymore.
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Not just that, but bringing in Baxter should be unconscionable.

Bairstow said:
Or else what?
There are no rules here.
Disney put who they thought should be in charge of the project, either for public relations reasons or because the company felt it was the right thing to do. No one forced them to put Carter in charge of this the same way no one is forcing them to build this overlay.
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She still reports to a whole host of white men from whom she must seek approval. Disney also more prominently publicized that the white man who was inspired by the racist movie is involved.
 
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