Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[DarkMetroid567]

I don’t know if I would say that’s likely, but hoo boy, do I want that. lol

I can’t fathom them not doing it!!! The chanting just lends itself so well.

 

[WDWmazprty]

Can you please identify what "America" is?

huh? America. The USA. I'm referring to the actual term 'African American'. When you add the word AMERICAN on the end of someone its because they have a certain race or heritage but was actually born on AMERICAN soil, who are from the United States.

 

[Don Quixote]

Which part, the chapter where Attorney General Palmer and J. Edgar Hoover arrest and deport people on mere suspicion of left wing (not even communist) sympathies, or the chapter where Joseph McCarthy and the HUAC pretty much scare the entertainment industry, academia, and government agencies from so much as providing a platform to anyone espousing left-wing views?

Didn’t you get the news? Rnese is the only one who reads. Anything that doesn’t read like a Fox News panic article must be fake!

 

[WondersOfLife]

Looking at #splashmountain on Insta was a mistake. It seems like more people are happy than sad about the news. Guess I'll finally get to understand how old Epcot fans feel like.

That's what I've been (sadly) trying to tell everyone here for years. (Specifically in regard to Impressions de France)

"WhAt dO YOOuoUOu KnOw aBOut WhAT thE "GENeRaL PUBLic WanTS!?"

Just get on other platforms and see.

 

[davis_unoxx]

Yeah, it’s a shame. Everything is offensive nowadays. Even not being offended enough is offensive.

What branch did they serve?

They served Navy and Air Force.

think they’d be offended one of my grandfathers landed his plane after bombing a German base and getting shot midair and his plane being heavily damaged as well.

nevermind that I have samurai swords from the Japanese guys that surrendered to my other grandfather. LOL

so what decade has been your favorite so far? It seemed like the 80s were pretty good in terms of people getting along, but maybe I’m seeing it through people’s nostalgia

 

[Parker in NYC]

THAT IT IM DONE!!!!!!!

O-FFICIALLY!

Didn’t you get the news? Rnese is the only one who reads. Anything that doesn’t read like a Fox News panic article must be fake!

They don't panic. They don't believe in it! Panic leads to fear, fear leads to masks, masks lead to... suffering.

 

[Cesar R M]

huh? America. The USA. I'm referring to the actual term 'African American'. When you add the word AMERICAN on the end of someone its because they have a certain race or heritage but was actually born on AMERICAN soil, who are from the United States.

You know that the term is also heavily used when africans who were brought from slavery into the AMERICAN CONTINENT?

 

[comics101]

Thank you! So curious if it was controversial at opening!

I’d bet good money it’s not actually controversial today. In fact, up until about 2 weeks I don’t think hardly anyone thought about Splash Mountain’s “inherent racism.”

 

[tirian]

I literally went back and re-watched it (in segments) on YouTube today just to make sure my recollection of it wasn't off. I heard so many people saying, "The movie isn't racist!" and "Have you even SEEN the movie?" that I figured maybe I had misremembered.
I hadn't misremembered.

The live-action segments are certainly problematic. But they’re also so melodramatic that if Disney would’ve just licensed this to Criterion a decade ago, the taboo aura would’ve worn off when people realized it’s a lousy movie anyway!

 

[J_Carioca]

Oh I’ve read many. The thing is, I don’t think you have. People who whine about a log flume being rethemed don’t have time to read, especially the ones who believe that they know how everything is actually going on and everyone else must be stupid.

I just wanted to blow your mind by telling you that I read constantly, have an English lit. degree...AND YET I still have time to read this forum and be upset about SM being rethemed.

If you're going to accuse people of thinking that everyone else must be stupid maybe you should stop engaging in that very same behaviour yourself.

 

[WDWmazprty]

You know that the term is also heavily used when africans who were brought from slavery into the AMERICAN CONTINENT?

Probably, but shouldn't be..

African Americans (also referred to as Black Americans or Afro-Americans) are an ethnic group of Americans with total or partial ancestry from any of the black racial groups of Africa. The term African American generally denotes descendants of enslaved black people who are from the United States.
Geographic distribution: United States
People: Barack Obama, Anthony Johnson, Mal...

African Americans - Wikipedia

 

[DarkMetroid567]

I’d bet good money it’s not actually controversial today. In fact, up until about 2 weeks I don’t think hardly anyone thought about Splash Mountain’s “inherent racism.”

ehhhh, the discourse has existed since at least I was young. I remember getting excited to go to DL for the first time when I was 8 (12 years ago) and seeing people being upset about the ride’s roots. I eventually got super interested about SotS and found a rip and was like wow....that was doo-doo

 

[MisterPenguin]

Wait, I can't go back in the thread because I'm lazy. What's happening to HoP?!

It's on the rumored list of attractions to look at in response to the new BLM protests.

As I've mentioned, the movie part has already been updated to address slavery and continued need for vigilance of civil rights. But maybe they'll get more specific.

An oft-touted suggestion is to stop having the current president give a speech to stop the partisanship dragged into the theater.

 

[Beacon Joe]

I just wanted to blow your mind by telling you that I read constantly, have an English lit. degree...AND YET I still have time to read this forum and be upset about SM being rethemed.

If you're going to accuse people of thinking that everyone else must be stupid maybe you should stop engaging in that very same behaviour yourself.

Don't bother with that guy - like his namesake, he's busy fighting imaginary dragons of oppression.

 

[tirian]

I’d bet good money it’s not actually controversial today. In fact, up until about 2 weeks I don’t think hardly anyone thought about Splash Mountain’s “inherent racism.”

The media certainly banged that drum until people believed it.

I’ve seen people on these boards call out IASW because they equate cartoon versions of “historical cultural diversity” with “racism.” “It’s so racist because they’re dressed in historical stereotypes no one wears anymore!” All right, let’s put all the kids in the same clothes. Which ones do you approve? Twenty-first century American versions? Hypocrites.

 

[WondersOfLife]

So how long do we have until The Haunted Mansion turns into Coco?

Because quite frankly, I believe that one now...

 

[MisterPenguin]

Oops. Forgot to cite it...

Frontierland autonomous zone.

I never voted for Brer Rabbit!

 

[easyrowrdw]

Who is buying the tickets? That's who a sane person would attempt to appeal to. Was this change being demanded by a majority of people that buy tickets? Or a screaming minority, most of whom would never pay for a ticket?

That's the thing about Disney. They can appeal to the "screaming minority," while the majority still buys tickets.

 

[_caleb]

What’s your opinion about it?

I love the animation. I like that it tries to weave folk tales (the animated parts) in with live-action. But the portrayal of African Americans as happy-go-lucky minstrel types who long for the good old days, along with some of the slang and the interaction between black and white characters is racist. The tar-baby is racist. The live-action bookends are pretty poorly written and produced. I can see why Disney would not stand behind the film today, and why they do not appreciate the ongoing connection of the ride to the film.

 

[Homemade Imagineering]

All I can say is I feel overwhelmed, like I woke up this morning ready to start my day and as I did I was gut punched by thoughts of the untouchable attractions shutting down after Splash, and it seems some of the attractions I love such as COP might see that fate which just stresses me out even more. When splash’s retheme was announced, I felt gutted not necessarily because splash mountain was getting a retheme, because I already was preparing myself to see an announcement, but gutted knowing what the future may hold for the top untouchable attractions, the ones that Disney needs, like HM, POTC, or IASW. Knowing that COP might meet the ugly fate stitch did makes me very upset, and there’s so much stress going on right now with the virus and even some stress in my personal life, it’s just insanity and it feels like stress will keep piling on. Last year in August when I joined because of a thread about the possible return of Journey Into Imagination, I would have never predicted this...