Splash Mountain re-theme announced

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Disney fired her behind lol. Kicked her to the curb. She was supposed to be getting her own spinoff show, but she couldn't help but get those Twitter fingers going.

I don't think so. the hashtag #canceldisneyplus was trending after it happened, lots of people have cancelled their accounts and will be reflected in the next quarter earnings call, and the stock took a hit.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Rian Johnson - Director of The Last Jedi
Pablo Hidalgo - Head of Lucasfilm Story Group

These two are the notable ones out of the group among other Lucasfilm employees, however they do not hold such positions of power like those two men I just mentioned. Still, they are representing a company that doesn’t tolerate bullying and such and for them to treat fans the way they do is absolutely wrong and they should have been held accountable for that way before Gina Carano had to succumb to getting terminated for her right to be herself.

It seems as if you’re extremely anti-Gina Carano. So I doubt we’re going to get anywhere with this conversation. Just remember Lucasfilm’s slogan: The Force is Female!

Is it really though?

If they tweeted problematic things over and over again like Ms. Carano did, despite being warned, then yes, they should be let go as well.

I'm not anti-Gina Carano. I don't know her and am unfamiliar with her work. I don't feel bad for her at all though and will not excuse her behavior.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I don't think so. the hashtag #canceldisneyplus was trending after it happened, lots of people have cancelled their accounts and will be reflected in the next quarter earnings call, and the stock took a hit.

And I bet just as they lost subscribers, they gained some. Disney doesn't care. Some of the main ones complaining over her firing and calling Disney a dictator will continue to give Disney their money and Disney will gladly continue to take it.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

And I bet just as they lost subscribers, they gained some. Disney doesn't care. Some of the main ones complaining over her firing and calling Disney a dictator will continue to give Disney their money and Disney will gladly continue to take it.

I am not calling them a dictator. I am calling them a hypocrite and phonies when it comes to being progressive. I will still go to Disneyland because I love Disneyland but this whole thing is making the company look bad as a whole.

 

[Little Green Men]

So....... splash mountain is being replaced huh?

 

[Sharon&Susan]

people were bullying her to put her "pronouns" on her twitter profile

Proof from someone other than Gina that this happened? Most celebs don't put their gender pronouns on their twitter because most everyone knows already.

Again assuming for a moment this is true, why didn't she just tell people to stop bugging her over it when they already likely know the answer?

 

[Californian Elitist]

I am not calling them a dictator. I am calling them a hypocrite and phonies when it comes to being progressive. I will still go to Disneyland because I love Disneyland but this whole thing is making the company look bad as a whole.

I didn't say you called them a dictator. You just proved my point though, as you acknowledged that will be giving Disney your money, despite you calling the company fake and hypocritical.

They'll be happy to receive your hard-earned cash.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

Proof from someone other than Gina that this happened? Most celebs don't put their gender pronouns on their twitter because most everyone knows already.

Again assuming for a moment this is true, why didn't she just tell people to stop bugging her over it when they already likely know the answer?

 

[Californian Elitist]

So....... splash mountain is being replaced huh?

That seems to be the case.

Folks should accept it and start saying their goodbyes now.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

I didn't say you called them a dictator. You just proved my point though, as you acknowledged that will be giving Disney your money, despite you calling the company fake and hypocritical.

They'll be happy to receive your hard-earned cash.

I will gladly give Disneyland park my money and time and hard earned cash because I will always love Disneyland as long as they have Haunted Mansion. The rest of the company wont see a dime from me. It's my money, my choice.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I will gladly give Disneyland park my money and time and hard earned cash because I will always love Disneyland as long as they have Haunted Mansion. The rest of the company wont see a dime from me. It's my money, my choice.

Right. It's your money and you can do what you want with it, and you will be giving some of it to Disney, as you've stated. The rest of the company doesn't matter because the company is one. One person might pay for a Disney+ subscription and never pay to go to the parks. Another person might do the opposite and spend their money on visiting the parks and might not care about Disney+. Both consumers are giving Disney their money.

 

[champdisney]

That’s the second time you’ve implied that I was lying when I said I didn’t understand what you meant. I told you that I don’t appreciate that.

I’ve tried to understand what you’ve been trying to say about Disney changing Splash Mountain. But when I ask questions, you think I’m being pedantic. Here’s what I’ve taken away from my interaction with you about this:

• You use the term “mainstream media” the same way political conservatives do. You think everyone uses this term the way people like you do. I don’t.
• You think the “mainstream media” don’t paint Disney in a fair light. You say they always show video of people enjoying themselves on Splash Mountain when they report mostly negative things about Disney. I haven’t seen this.
• You say the “mainstream media” thinks Splash Mountain is racist, but still shows images of the ride, which you find disingenuous. I, on the other hand, don’t think the “mainstream media” thinks anything at all about Splash Mountain, and I don’t understand how showing footage of the ride would cause someone to distrust them.
• You think Twitter has outsized influence because their algorithm does the bidding of the “mainstream media” and people use it to be mean and spread lies.

I can be dense sometimes, but I’m not a complete idiot. Please tell me where I may have misunderstood.

My man, look it’s clear to me that you are knowledgeable and so when I reply to you I’m speaking to you one on one with the confidence that you would understand. If you feel offended by whatever it is that you thought I implied then I apologize.

- The term mainstream media is not solely used by political conservatives. I for one tend to lean in the middle so your wrong about that.
- The mainstream media uses footage of Splash Mountain among other attractions while reporting not so nice things about Disney. I am telling you this because I have seen it as far back as I was in the 6th grade. Am I liar for this because you haven’t seen this firsthand yourself?
- I said the mainstream media has used footage of Splash Mountain for years and up to recently reported about the offensive problems of it today. If they agree with it being offensive, surely they knew it was offensive back then and yet they still decided to insert some Splash Mountain action each time they addressed something Disney related for all of these years? Again, I’m speaking from my experience watching their news reports.
- No. I said Twitter has an outstanding influence. The kind of influence that can spark change. That is why I know Twitter is the dominant platform compared to the others. The mainstream media does play a huge part of what gets talked about on social media because they’re constantly reporting on there. Most of what they report if not all, triggers people. Depending on what side you’re on, doesn’t matter, people are going to feel some type of way towards it. That is why Twitter is mean and nasty.

I ask again do you have Twitter? I’d love to follow you!

 

[champdisney]

If they tweeted problematic things over and over again like Ms. Carano did, despite being warned, then yes, they should be let go as well.

I'm not anti-Gina Carano. I don't know her and am unfamiliar with her work. I don't feel bad for her at all though and will not excuse her behavior.

If you don’t know Gina Carano then do yourself the favor and look into her and her journey. She is a true trailblazer for all women and something tells me that once you get to know the fact that she has held multiple titles in the world of MMA, you’ll be glad you’re disregarding her on here rather than to her personally.

 

[Californian Elitist]

If you don’t know Gina Carano then do yourself the favor and look into her and her journey. She is a true trailblazer for all women and something tells me that once you get to know the fact that she has held multiple titles in the world of MMA, you’ll be glad you’re disregarding her on here rather than to her personally.

You've just given me so info on her, which is good enough I think. I'm not interested in getting to know any more of her, to be honest. Her tweets were enough.

 

[Disney Analyst]

When Season 3 of Mado comes out, without Gina, and the shows as wonderful as ever, people are going to completely forget about her and move on.

 

[EpcotCentre1982]

Exactly. Disney has refused to officially release SotS for many years now. At this point, it’s a taboo film within the Disney collection, as Disney won’t even speak of the film. They did this.

They had plans prior to the CM making noise about it.

True. From a co-worker at Disney, when they made the announcement for this change he was releaved that he could finally talk about. He knew about it for at least a year. How long prior they have been working for it. Who knows.

 

[champdisney]

Not sure what the first sentence is in reference to...

You've just given me so info on her, which is good enough I think. I'm not interested in getting to know any more of her, to be honest. Her tweets were enough.

To the other employees in Lucasfilm that also showcased awful conduct on social media? Don’t tell me you are that quick to forget a conversation you were engaging with me for a bit. If not, you could have looked back at our previous interactions in this thread to refreshen your memory. Or and I hate to assume this... you are just playing the “I don’t know” card because you are okay with people in the entertainment industry making fun of the people their suppose to be making content for.

As for Gina Carano. I find it comical that you are good enough to judge someone based on what they tweet. I don’t recall you being this vocal about James Gunn and his problematic tweets that initially got him fired from TWDC. It’s interesting how certain people pick and choose what is offensive and what is not.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

You were targeted for those promoted tweets because you were identified as someone who would engage (retweet, comment, click a link).

The point is that there are 2.7B users on Facebook, 1B on (Facebook-owned) Instagram, and 330M users on Twitter. Which do you think is more important to Disney?

That wasn't the assertion. The claim was that Disney doesn't do ad buys on Twitter, period.

 

[WillWrambles]

Some of the main ones complaining over her firing and calling Disney a dictator will continue to give Disney their money and Disney will gladly continue to take it.

See: This forum complaining about The Parks, and then continuing to go to said Parks.

 

[_caleb]

That wasn't the assertion. The claim was that Disney doesn't do ad buys on Twitter, period.

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Wait- so you thought when I wrote:

Disney’s Twitter strategy is completely different. Rather than ad buys, they leverage their existing accounts for promotion and try for more a organic reach. These efforts are actually more “newsworthy” in that they represent messages resonating with the number of people who actually engage or retweet them.

I was trying to say that Disney doesn’t do ad buys on Twitter, period?

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Of course Disney buys promoted tweets on Twitter. We’ve been talking about that (how you were targeted to see those things). I meant that Disney spends a lot more on Facebook. Because the point of the discussion we were having was that Disney isn’t afraid of a ”twitter mob” because it represents such an insignificant portion of their audience.