taz0162
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The bad thing is that I saw the title of the thread and my mind went there as I laughed at it too.
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Splash Mountain falling apart (literally?)
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dcibrando
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I have high standards for WDW, but it doesn't affect my vacation when a scene doesn't work in some rides. These things go non-stop 7 days a week for sometimes 15+ hours a day 365 days a year.... things are going to break, show signs or wear at times, etc. just because they don't fix everything the night before I go to that park doesn't mean I think disney is terrible - I have been to universal twice... both times spiderman was RIP for the day, doesn't mean I think they are terrible.. it happens there too
DisneyGuyNYC
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It's been years since it's worked correctly. Do you expect things to get fixed in years?
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
There is a huge difference between something breaking and not being fixed instantly, and, the types of things we are talking about here.
Spiderman was down? Big deal. I would rather Splash had been down then being operated in the condition it was in. Same for Everest. Same for Dinosaur. Ect...
DisneyGuyNYC
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These are also most of the major rides in the park. Spiderman is great but they have a dozen other major rides in that park.
PurpleDragon
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I find it hard to believe that people take these complaints about a deteriorating attraction to mean that the people here hate Disney. What sort of logic is that? Its a Disney fan site for crying out loud. As MerlinTheGoat stated above, we hold Disney to a higher standard because Disney has always held itself to a higher standard, so when we visit the parks we expect the attractions to meet that standard. So when attractions are allowed to deteriorate and fall apart (literally), we get frustrated because suddenly that high standard no longer matters since the current management doesn't seem to care about it.
Here is a good analogy for you; Say you have always gotten cookie monster cupcakes for your birthday. Year after year you pay top dollar to get them from this famous bakery and they are always perfect, like this:
The suddenly after years and years of perfect cupcakes, you go to pick them up one day and they look like this:
Now tell me you wouldn't be upset by that.
Here is a good analogy for you; Say you have always gotten cookie monster cupcakes for your birthday. Year after year you pay top dollar to get them from this famous bakery and they are always perfect, like this:
The suddenly after years and years of perfect cupcakes, you go to pick them up one day and they look like this:
Now tell me you wouldn't be upset by that.
All Disney All The Time
Well-Known Member
Yum, cupcakes.
ExtinctJenn
Well-Known Member
Yep as my posts above say, the entire week last week, all day long, they were running empty logs. Sorry!
Darth Sidious
Authentically Disney Distinctly Chinese
Allow me to end this argument that occurs often here: we all love WDW and yes a bad day there is better than most days elsewhere (usually) but we want to hold Disney to their own standards. The company held itself to these standards but over the past decade or so the management teams largely ignored quality. Posting here and speaking out against the lackluster showmanship is our protest against this. That doesn't mean we don't enjoy things or that we hate WDW, otherwise we wouldn't be here at all. We just expect Disney to adhere to THEIR OWN standards.
RedDad
Smitty Werben JagerManJensen
I've only been around for a few weeks, but I've noticed a few things about these regular "why so negative" posts. I think the division on this site tends to happen between those who visit the parks very frequently and those who have only been a handful of times or only go once a year. Obviously, folks who have frequented the parks over many years and who go regularly are going to become much more familiar with the rides and what should be working. I can speak from experience that if you only go once a year, and have only been a few times, you simply don't notice a lot of the problems that others do. I've ridden Splash probably 10 times in the last 5 years, and its only the last 2 trips that I have noticed anything wrong. I still couldn't tell you which animatronics weren't working, though I definitely noticed the smell and general deterioration in overall appearance.
It can be a bit of a shock for someone who has recently discovered the site, and who isn't as familiar with the parks, to come on here and see so much criticism. After reading for a few weeks and realizing that the overall standards throughout the parks has deteriorated just since our first visit in 07, I welcome the legitimate criticism, even if it can sometimes be over the top. It hasn't started to diminish our park experiences yet, but one of the things that drew us to WDW in the first place was the high standards for quality and showmanship. If things don't change for the better I could see myself becoming more disenchanted, so I'm glad to see folks trying to affect change.
It can be a bit of a shock for someone who has recently discovered the site, and who isn't as familiar with the parks, to come on here and see so much criticism. After reading for a few weeks and realizing that the overall standards throughout the parks has deteriorated just since our first visit in 07, I welcome the legitimate criticism, even if it can sometimes be over the top. It hasn't started to diminish our park experiences yet, but one of the things that drew us to WDW in the first place was the high standards for quality and showmanship. If things don't change for the better I could see myself becoming more disenchanted, so I'm glad to see folks trying to affect change.
Pixiedustmaker
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People love the way that WDW was, and the worsening upkeep is what has fans upset. And it's not just fans, WDW theme park attendance is down for the last year, we'll have to see what the official numbers are when they release them. Shareholders are probably worried, and fans are upset.
Disneyland Resort has great new stuff, Carsland, PFF, but I'm always surprised with how dated MK looks and how it feels like nothing new has been added in a while. Some parts of FLE look great, like Be Our Guest restaurant, but a lot of it looks cluttered, i.e. Mermaid area, Circusland, and 7DMT won't be the Fantasyland E-ticket we all dream out.
Bairstow
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I find it hard to believe that people take these complaints about a deteriorating attraction to mean that the people here hate Disney. What sort of logic is that? Its a Disney fan site for crying out loud. As MerlinTheGoat stated above, we hold Disney to a higher standard because Disney has always held itself to a higher standard, so when we visit the parks we expect the attractions to meet that standard. So when attractions are allowed to deteriorate and fall apart (literally), we get frustrated because suddenly that high standard no longer matters since the current management doesn't seem to care about it.
Here is a good analogy for you; Say you have always gotten cookie monster cupcakes for your birthday. Year after year you pay top dollar to get them from this famous bakery and they are always perfect, like this:
The suddenly after years and years of perfect cupcakes, you go to pick them up one day and they look like this:
Now tell me you wouldn't be upset by that.
One more thing to consider:
The bakery charged $3.40 for a dozen of the cupcakes on top.
Now they make the cupcakes on bottom but charge you $8.90 for the dozen.
articos
Well-Known Member
Fantastic analogy. Someone give this PurpleDragon a cupc...oh.I find it hard to believe that people take these complaints about a deteriorating attraction to mean that the people here hate Disney. What sort of logic is that? Its a Disney fan site for crying out loud. As MerlinTheGoat stated above, we hold Disney to a higher standard because Disney has always held itself to a higher standard, so when we visit the parks we expect the attractions to meet that standard. So when attractions are allowed to deteriorate and fall apart (literally), we get frustrated because suddenly that high standard no longer matters since the current management doesn't seem to care about it.
Here is a good analogy for you; Say you have always gotten cookie monster cupcakes for your birthday. Year after year you pay top dollar to get them from this famous bakery and they are always perfect, like this:
The suddenly after years and years of perfect cupcakes, you go to pick them up one day and they look like this:
Now tell me you wouldn't be upset by that.
$8.90? In LA, those dozen cupcakes are going for $40+!
asc341
Member
What happened to the jumping water streams in the "laughing place" scene? I hadn't been to WDW in years before then, but noticed they weren't there last May and November. Also, both times as well, there was a little bunny in front of a hill (you used to be able to see Brer Rabbit's shadow running on the hill behind him,) whose voice sounded like it was being controlled by an angry cyborg. I was really surprised to see the voice still wasn't fixed in November! This refurb is much needed - fingers crossed for a prosperous future for SM!
The pump broke and was left broken.
MerlinTheGoat
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Most if not all of the fountain effects in the laughing place had been systematically switched off or broken over the course of several years now. Though I am told that shortly before the ride closed for its refurb, sometime during the Christmas holiday last year, a number of the water effects had been switched back on again. Someone posted a video of these fixed effects months ago (perhaps in this topic, I can't recall where). Perhaps some preliminary maintenance was performed during the extra magic hours when the ride wasn't operating for as long.
And yeah there were also a lot of problems with the sound system around the ride. The character you mentioned sounded pretty bad, but the part I find worse is right as you're going over the second drop (the roller coaster drop as I call it). The speakers around there that play some of the character voices sound like they've got some water damage or something (where Brer Bear says "there's nothing but bees in here" and where Brer Rabbit laughs as you're about to go over the fall).
And yeah there were also a lot of problems with the sound system around the ride. The character you mentioned sounded pretty bad, but the part I find worse is right as you're going over the second drop (the roller coaster drop as I call it). The speakers around there that play some of the character voices sound like they've got some water damage or something (where Brer Bear says "there's nothing but bees in here" and where Brer Rabbit laughs as you're about to go over the fall).
dreamscometrue
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I think it's exceedingly important to not simply complain on here. Each of us has different things that bother us and differing levels of what we deem acceptable re show quality, but for those things that do bother us, we all should stop by guest relations to make our concerns known and send e-mails to guest relations. I've written 2 long letters regarding the things that concern me, and I've always stopped by guest relations while in the parks with anything that concerned me. I feel better when I do that, like I'm doing my very small part to try to make a difference.
dreamscometrue
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That's good. I know that wherever I've worked, if no one ever complains, little gets done.