flynnibus
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In honesty tho.. this probably isn't a 'me too' but rather a misunderstanding of what they are supposed to be doing. Difference places have different systems for trash/trays.
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In honesty tho.. this probably isn't a 'me too' but rather a misunderstanding of what they are supposed to be doing. Difference places have different systems for trash/trays.
truecoat
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Reminds me of an episode of Mad Men which if you don't know, takes place in the 60's. After a family picnic at a park, Don takes the picnic blanket and just shakes all the trash onto the ground and they leave. Made me laugh at the time as this was probably the norm back then.
aladdin2007
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This!!
Omnispace
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And then you have the places (especially here in CA) that have three receptacles to sort your lunch items into and nothing seems to match what you are trying to toss. I think that sometimes people simply give up.
sporadic
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The sad thing is, we had no choice but to leave our trays on top of the trashcan last year at Epcot (La Cantina de San Angel) because they were all overflowing. The condiment bar was a disgusting mess as well.
CDavid
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These are people charged with running a multi-billion dollar business. While logic would tell us otherwise, judging solely by what we see in the parks you would be left with the conclusion that no, they really don't understand such basic concepts.
And then just toss it all as trash into the recycling bin.
the.dreamfinder
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@WDWFigment tweeted out this interesting PowerPoint from the OLC which, among other things, shows they are planning to invest 5 billion USD for a medium term plan. Funny how the International Disney parks have 5-10 year plans but WDW seems to be flying by the seat of its pants to prop up MyMagic+'s numbers.
http://www.olc.co.jp/en/news/olcgroup/20140428_04e.pdf
http://www.olc.co.jp/en/news/olcgroup/20140428_04e.pdf
the.dreamfinder
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"Management based on a long-term perspective is imperative"
danv3
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What a stark contrast to TWDC, which seems to manage parks & resorts (especially WDW) as though the world was going to end in the next 6-12 months.
asianway
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That number is a ten year spend which is strongly hinted to include a third, unconnected park that would not be Disney affiliated.
Kman101
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So DCA got a 5 year plan, Hong Kong got three new lands (badly needed in both cases though, but still ...), Paris is getting one, Tokyo is getting one and WDW gets .... *crickets chirp* (and yes I know MK, DTD and AK are getting substantial money and additions, but one project is spread out over 5-7 years).
No wonder I'm dying to visit the other parks (finances are the only reason why I haven't yet).
And yes I know HK, Paris and Tokyo aren't run by Disney execs, but they still mostly require 'Disney money'. I don't get it.
No wonder I'm dying to visit the other parks (finances are the only reason why I haven't yet).
And yes I know HK, Paris and Tokyo aren't run by Disney execs, but they still mostly require 'Disney money'. I don't get it.
the.dreamfinder
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The rumored domestic IP gate? But still, that plan is old school Disney management practices.
tribbleorlfl
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Regarding the Tortuga table situation after the restaurant has closed, I suspect what you're seeing is SotMK trading. That's the game community's unofficial meet up/trading spot. Not saying I disagree w/ you all on it being closed while people are present (missed revenue), but it was chosen precisely for that reason (its normal operating schedule).
WDWFigment
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The "outside Maihama" expansion plans are mentioned in the report, but they're exploratory at this point and OLC hasn't committed to whether whatever they're going to do is theme park, entertainment, or education(?!) related. The $500 billion yen spend (with a $280 billion yen front-loaded amount for the Tokyo Olympics), as I understand it, is solely for Tokyo Disney Resort.
Over the course of 9 years, it would work out to over $500 million USD per year, which is no insignificant amount. I'd assume the big spends are a new ports-of-call at TDS and a couple of land overhauls and additions at TDL, based on the forecast.
Figments Friend
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I'd add several Activision titles (Robot Tank, Pitfall) and many of the Starpath games to that list. Vanguard and Jungle Hunt I spent many hours playing; The first 2600 Pac-Man was poor, with Ms. Pac-Man better, but by the time Atari released the really excellent Junior Pac-Man the world had moved on.
Now, if only they'd surprisingly unearth some Cosmos prototypes in that landfill...
Yes, Activision had some excellent quality games back in the early 80s.
Many of them had far better graphics then the Atari carts did at that time.
Some of my Activision carts were Dolphin, Megamania, and Seaquest.
Jungle Hunt was also a good one.
Cosmos now......
( drools at the thought...)
the.dreamfinder
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I wonder if a large component of the plan will include land acquisition since OLC will not be able to reclaim more land.
Figments Friend
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Yes indeed...tis true. It was the first hidden gem in a game.
I have triggered it a few times with my own.
Rogue21
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Oh, and I had Buddy Baker's awesome Litterbug song on red 78 vinyl, (handed down from my older sister). Edit -- oops -- that was a regular 45.
I read Buddy Baker and first thought "Animal Man is a singer/songwriter?"
But, I do remember the old red 45's -- had a few yellow ones too.
Figments Friend
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Yes, EPCOT has a lot a potential, but one added new attraction is not what EPCOT really needs.
It would be nice, but the Park as a whole needs a far larger investment in it both thematically and creatively.
A major re-investment is what is needed across the entire Park to bring it back into a state of being the cutting edge and inspirational place it once was.
That does not mean it needs to return to it*s previous state, which despite my respect for those fabulous early days would make no sense today.
The Park needs to recapture the spirit of that impressive past, but in a forward thinking way that will greater impress today*s Guests.
Some fantastic additions could be made to almost everything presently there to raise the bar higher, especially with todays technology options, but the problem is nobody in the decision making departments of the Company seems interested.
It needs the direct attention and influence of someone high up on the corporate totem pole to give a hoot about EPCOTs future and funnel the creative talent and financial resources in it*s direction.
Sadly i am not 100% sure if there is anyone currently in the Company that has such required dedication to the Park, or if they do, they are in a position of power to actually make some waves.
That is the trick, you see...it is rare to have both in one person!
What today*s Disney needs, particularly in Parks & Resorts, is someone with a grand vision that can clearly see the potential EPCOT holds for not just today, but 10 years from now. Someone who has the balls to take a risk and make some real improvements without backing down to a lower *exceptable* standard.
If only the corporate purse holders would stop obsessing over their shortsighted, short term gain tactics and trust in said *visionary* we could really see some movement.
Unfortunately, the Disney organization that could have pulled that off no longer exists it seems.
Today*s Disney is all about playing it safe...not taking a creative chance on something....and focusing more on tie-ins/synergy.
The bold direction to change EPCOT needs to come from within.
Fans just wishing for some changes is not enough....there needs to be some internal wishing as well, and a seen need to invest in such changes.
I would like to hope it could happen some day, but some major restructuring within the Company needs to happen first.
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Stevek
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The laziness kills me. Not only do I always pick up my trash but I will, if it's not too nasty looking, pick up others trash if I happen upon it. I don't notice it as a major problem at Disneyland.