Spirited Spring Break News, Observations & Thoughts ...

WDW1974

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I realize there's a big difference between attire in upscale restaurants and attire for walking around the theme parks.

However, when I was at Uni a few weeks ago (in the heart of Spring Break, admittedly), I kept noticing people (all guys, drat) who were walking around without shirts on.

I must've counted at least 7 or 8 between the two parks. I realize the IOA water rides are soakers, but come on. The Team Members didn't seem too intent on speaking to them, either.

Yeah, that should be an immediate 'shirt on or you are out of the park' deal ... UNI dropped the ball, no doubt. I didn't see that there at all. I would have noticed.
 

Magenta Panther

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Plus I get really lost now. It took 2 visits for me to find the Beast's Castle and yes I kept looking up and seeing it in the distance. I couldn't feel the love with the Mermaid ride, which it took me 4 trips to finally locate that attraction. I'm just grateful IASW and Peter Pan didn't get demo'd.

Happily, that will never happen. Small World is iconic, plus is still very popular. Same deal with Peter Pan's Flight. If a truly insightful person were running Disney, instead of that fathead Iger, Pan would have been majorly plussed by now.
 

TalkingHead

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Yeah, that should be an immediate 'shirt on or you are out of the park' deal ... UNI dropped the ball, no doubt. I didn't see that there at all. I would have noticed.

It was a Saturday, Spring Break, Mardi Gras, big crowds, hotter than it should've been for March. So I sorta chalked it up to that, but, yeah, it was noticeable.
 

WDW1974

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Finally, some GOOD news.

You would be thrilled by all the Oswald crap they are trying to shill/sell ... tees, caps, pins ...hell, there is one cap where he is on with Mickey, Donald, Goofy and (I think) one of the Dwarfs ... as if he was part of these 'classic' characters when he was anything but.

#Kermitrulez #PiggyshouldbeaPrincess
 

CDavid

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First, saw the kiddie coaster running in tests. Walked around it. Did you know it's the only Disney attraction that you can completely walk around? (It has to be true if corporate says so, right?)

Do they really claim that? o_O I can think of several other examples. Aladdin's spinner for one.

That is true for SDMT, well except for Alladin, the Carousel, Teacups, Spaceship Earth, Astro Orbiter, and several others (Great Movie Ride, etc.) which can be completely encircled even if other structures are in the path.

Have the people who write these things ever been in the parks?


No, that was the original plan. And with rumours that DL wants MSEP back for a retro (think cheap) 60th anniversary celebration, that would definitely be the case.

If only Disney had ever built a follow on parade to MSEP, and then kept it in secure conditions during storage so it didn't rot or anything... :banghead:

Talked to a DVC pal and Disney really wants a BLT South, but there are many reasons why that can't happen without loads of infrastructure work ... and they won't pay for the RC site, so it really appears that an EPCOT DVC resort is the next up (and will likely be announced before 10/1).

Another BLT? Gee, who has it in for the Contemporary? Next they'll be wanting to tear the A-frame tower down, too (said only half facetiously). :depressed:
 
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Magenta Panther

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You would be thrilled by all the Oswald crap they are trying to shill/sell ... tees, caps, pins ...hell, there is one cap where he is on with Mickey, Donald, Goofy and (I think) one of the Dwarfs ... as if he was part of these 'classic' characters when he was anything but.

#Kermitrulez #PiggyshouldbeaPrincess

I take it you don't follow the box office much..hate to break it to ya, but the new Muppets movie is a major flop. Kermit and Piggy will be lucky not to end up as frog legs and pork chops at the ABC commissary. (Which would be a major upgrade for that dump's menu, I'll admit).

Oswald is not just a classic, he was the FIRST classic. Without his success, there would likely have been no Mickey. Deal!
 

ParentsOf4

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I'd be interested in never seeing another hotel built at WDW. Ever. I thought they were overbuilt 15 years ago.
Stop talking about hotels. Every time you do, I feel the need to chime in. :) (And wasn't Portofino Bay lovely.)

As recently as 2008, WDW's hotels were running at 90% occupancy. IMHO, this was a direct result of Disney's new Magic Your Way ticket pricing structure and Disney's Magical Express. Since then, they've added BLT (a DVC with a high occupancy rate), AOA (a Value Resort with a high occupancy rate with the exception of its badly priced Family Suites), and VGF (another high occupancy rate DVC).

You'd think hotel occupancy would be up.

But occupancy was down to 79% last year despite record crowds at the theme parks. And remember, that 79% is propped up by DVC.

Somewhere in the last 5 years or so, WDW broke their hotel business model and it really seems like they don't know how to fix it.
 

jlsHouston

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Oh and to amend my comment above, HOW could I forget the GORGEOUS trees around Main Street and the castle hub decked out with wonderful twinkling lights? I felt such a rush of childlike wonder and joy seeing them again. My god such beauty long since lost...

Stop..I saw some pics with all the trees in front of the hub somewhere. I was so sad it's all gone.
 

TalkingHead

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I take it you don't follow the box office much..hate to break it to ya, but the new Muppets movie is a major flop. Kermit and Piggy will be lucky not to end up as frog legs and pork chops at the ABC commissary. (Which would be a major upgrade for that dump's menu, I'll admit).

Oswald is not just a classic, he was the FIRST classic. Without his success, there would likely have been no Mickey. Deal!

Oswald is a footnote in history.

A footnote with no major films to his name.
 

TalkingHead

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That is true for SDMT, well except for Alladin, the Carousel, Teacups, Spaceship Earth, Astro Orbiter, and several others (Great Movie Ride, etc.) which can be completely encircled even if other structures are in the path.

Have the people who write these things ever been in the parks?

Better question is why is that a selling point? Who cares if you can walk all the way around it? Would Mansion be better if you could? Would Tower of Terror be improved if you could run laps around it?

Just another case of PR/Parks Blog spewing out some pointless trivia, which in this case isn't even accurate.
 

WDW1974

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I take it you don't follow the box office much..hate to break it to ya, but the new Muppets movie is a major flop. Kermit and Piggy will be lucky not to end up as frog legs and pork chops at the ABC commissary. (Which would be a major upgrade for that dump's menu, I'll admit).

Oswald is not just a classic, he was the FIRST classic. Without his success, there would likely have been no Mickey. Deal!

The sequel hasn't performed well, no doubt. ... But if you think Oswald is somehow a significant character and not a footnote in animation history, you are mistaken. But I don't want to argue this with you endlessly. No one cares about Oswald beyond a few fanbois who give him much more significance than he has. He is the Orange Bird of the 1920s. The Muppets are beloved by a few generations and wouldn't be in the state they now are in if not for Disney's handling of them. But as I sit here, I just saw a Toyota commercial with the Muppets. I can't imagine that scenario for your wittle wabbit.
 

Magenta Panther

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Stop talking about hotels. Every time you do, I feel the need to chime in. :) (And wasn't Portofino Bay lovely.)

As recently as 2008, WDW's hotels were running at 90% occupancy. IMHO, this was a direct result of Disney's new Magic Your Way ticket pricing structure and Disney's Magical Express. Since then, they've added BLT (a DVC with a high occupancy rate), AOA (a Value Resort with a high occupancy rate with the exception of its badly priced Family Suites), and VGF (another high occupancy rate DVC).

You'd think hotel occupancy would be up.

But occupancy was down to 79% last year despite record crowds at the theme parks. And remember, that 79% is propped up by DVC.

Somewhere in the last 5 years or so, WDW broke their hotel business model and it really seems like they don't know how to fix it.

IMO, they've just build too damn many hotels! How many does a theme park need??? Especially one with very few new attractions to lure new guests. If WDW wants to fix its hotel problem, it needs to focus on the reason people come to visit - THE PARKS - and give people a reason to visit, then re-visit, them. For my part, I still love Disneyland and WDW...but this year I plan to stay at Universal, because all of the GOOD new stuff is THERE.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Oswald is not just a classic, he was the FIRST classic. Without his success, there would likely have been no Mickey. Deal!

Oswald is no classic. A classic is something that has enjoyed staying power over the course of a long period of time. A character that was popular for a few years in the 20s, vanished for 75 years and then brought back to hawk merch is no "classic". Then again, this is a company that markets five year old DVD bonus features as "classic".
 

jlsHouston

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Stop talking about hotels. Every time you do, I feel the need to chime in. :) (And wasn't Portofino Bay lovely.)

As recently as 2008, WDW's hotels were running at 90% occupancy. IMHO, this was a direct result of Disney's new Magic Your Way ticket pricing structure and Disney's Magical Express. Since then, they've added BLT (a DVC with a high occupancy rate), AOA (a Value Resort with a high occupancy rate with the exception of its badly priced Family Suites), and VGF (another high occupancy rate DVC).

You'd think hotel occupancy would be up.

But occupancy was down to 79% last year despite record crowds at the theme parks. And remember, that 79% is propped up by DVC.

Somewhere in the last 5 years or so, WDW broke their hotel business model and it really seems like they don't know how to fix it.

Umm...rack room rate for BW or BC or YC May 18-28 is $ 438/nite basically? I didn't really look at the monorail resorts but I think it's over $ 500/nite. And that is not club level.
 

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