Spirited Spring Break News, Observations & Thoughts ...

mahnamahna101

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Move it's a small world to Showcase Plaza and you've got plenty of room to do this.
Not to mention there's a huge plot of land behind IASW and Mermaid... bulldoze the Speedway and the tents, make Cinderella Castle the princess m&g.... you could fit Arendale, Bald Mountain, a fleshed out Storybook Circus, Giants ride, B&TB ride, Mary Poppins and Sugar Rush for the Fantasyland side of the new Wreck-it Ralph E ticket
 
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PhotoDave219

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To clarify they didn't eliminate So Cal AP ‘s they have suspended new sales. They are capping the number of AP’s at each level. Other levels including Deluxe and Premium could be suspended in the future.


This is actually a good move on Disney’s part. Friday nights and Sunday’s have become a nightmare with the So Cal AP’s (including myself) flooding in. They had to put a cap in. It has been getting out of control.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/annual-614733-disney-passes.html



I just don't want Walt Disney World to get any ideas about forcing current resident passholders to be seasonal or pay out-of-state prices…
 

SoupBone

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Small world works where it is. Just rip off the aircraft hanger over the queue and load platforms and cut the corner of the Pan queue. That'd be one of the biggest NFL improvement.

Can you post a pic of that area? I can sort of visualize it, but I'd like to see it. Would this be a way that they could expand the park without minimal disruption to that area?
 

SoupBone

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Whew. Guess I have to be glad I already bought tickets for my DL trip next month. You do kind of wonder where the ceiling on prices for these parks...someday they'll hit it. Sigh.

They won't because they can, and always will, use the economy and inflation as reasons for the increase. It won't be until you see people refusing to purchase tickets or limiting their time in the parks, then management will consider at least slowing down these increases. Considering they have near record attendance numbers each year, I doubt this stops anytime soon.
 

SirNim

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Friday nights and Sunday’s have become a nightmare with the So Cal AP’s (including myself) flooding in. They had to put a cap in. It has been getting out of control.
I avoid Sundays like the plague (though mostly because I can't have fun if I know I have somewhere to be the next morning). But Saturdays this spring seem much more crowded on average then those of last spring, so the trend seems to be a general increase regardless of day of week.
 

danlb_2000

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Not to mention there's a huge plot of land behind IASW and Mermaid... bulldoze the Speedway and the tents, make Cinderella Castle the princess m&g.... you could fit Arendale, Bald Mountain, a fleshed out Storybook Circus, Giants ride, B&TB ride, Mary Poppins and Sugar Rush for the Fantasyland side of the new Wreck-it Ralph E ticket

Land behind IASW is getiing a new parking area and retention pond, so it appears they don't have any short term plans to use this land for attractions.
 

bubbles1812

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They won't because they can, and always will, use the economy and inflation as reasons for the increase. It won't be until you see people refusing to purchase tickets or limiting their time in the parks, then management will consider at least slowing down these increases. Considering they have near record attendance numbers each year, I doubt this stops anytime soon.
That's why I used the word "someday."

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Sped2424

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To clarify they didn't eliminate So Cal AP ‘s they have suspended new sales. They are capping the number of AP’s at each level. Other levels including Deluxe and Premium could be suspended in the future.


This is actually a good move on Disney’s part. Friday nights and Sunday’s have become a nightmare with the So Cal AP’s (including myself) flooding in. They had to put a cap in. It has been getting out of control.

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/annual-614733-disney-passes.html
Who knew annual passes are starting to become as coveted as the waiting list for initiation into club 33. Am I the only one who thinks this is a dumb and weird move?
 

Sped2424

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Not to mention there's a huge plot of land behind IASW and Mermaid... bulldoze the Speedway and the tents, make Cinderella Castle the princess m&g.... you could fit Arendale, Bald Mountain, a fleshed out Storybook Circus, Giants ride, B&TB ride, Mary Poppins and Sugar Rush for the Fantasyland side of the new Wreck-it Ralph E ticket
land behind mermaid I believe is firework territory for wishes.
 

ParentsOf4

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They won't because they can, and always will, use the economy and inflation as reasons for the increase. It won't be until you see people refusing to purchase tickets or limiting their time in the parks, then management will consider at least slowing down these increases. Considering they have near record attendance numbers each year, I doubt this stops anytime soon.
Interestingly, the last quarter was the first since "The Great Recession" to show pricing softness domestically.

Guest spending was up only 4% at the theme parks despite much higher prices, suggesting guests might have altered their spending patterns to compensate for price increases.

It also appears hotel room rates were flat year-over-year.

If interested, please read my detailed analysis here:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...vations-thoughts.882599/page-152#post-6082592

One quarter does not make a trend. It will be interesting to see what happens to Per Room Guest Spending (PRGS) and Per Capita Guest Spending (PCGS) this quarter. With the move of Easter wholly into the third quarter, WDW and DLR better show big bumps in their numbers.

This summer, Diagon Alley will be open, which will wreak havoc with any sort of budding trend.

Meanwhile, with MyMagic+ fully rolled out, corporate Disney needs to say something more concrete soon regarding MyMagic+'s financial performance. Iger and Rasulo cannot keep tapdancing around these questions forever.

No company can survive on a strategy of "raise prices". With Median Household Income flatlining, theme park prices are approaching a tipping point. As Henry Ford learned 100 years ago with his “$5 per day” strategy that helped grow the American Middle Class, companies like Disney need to pay their workers wages that allow for more discretionary spending; that keep pace with prices.

With Universal investing wisely in its theme parks, Disney needs to come up with something more competitive than MyMagic+, Pandora, and higher prices. Some of us old enough to well remember the 1980s and 1990s thought WDW was the most amazing place in the world. It’s time for Disney leadership to look at its past to see what made it great.

Let’s get WDW’s Renaissance started with Star Wars Land. :D

Some fascinating times are ahead. :)
 
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danv3

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I believe there will be another ticket price hike before the year is over at WDW. Its going to happen sooner then later.

Undoubtedly we'll still get the regular summer price increase. I think the earlier price increase was just a "bonus" increase, not a rescheduling of the regular price increase.
 

janoimagine

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Meanwhile, with MyMagic+ fully rolled out, corporate Disney needs to say something more concrete soon regarding MyMagic+'s financial performance. Iger and Rasulo cannot keep tapdancing around these questions forever.

I wouldn't call MM+ Fully rolled out ... you still cannot park hop, or book FP+'s across multiple parks ... and you cannot use your phone to book additional fast passes after you use your initial 3 ... How this wasn't thought of ahead of time is beyond me ... also ... seems like such a simple idea ... but does anyone else think the new entrance turnstiles would be better if the arrow configuration was flipped, instead of the arrow wedging down into the park, it should be the opposite ... so that your not constantly bumping into people leaving the outer reader, while trying to get to the inner reader ... also would help with park exit ... maybe I am thinking about it too much, but I literally was run into every time I was going to the inner reader by someone leaving the outer reader.
 

ParentsOf4

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I wouldn't call MM+ Fully rolled out ... you still cannot park hop, or book FP+'s across multiple parks ... and you cannot use your phone to book additional fast passes after you use your initial 3 ... How this wasn't thought of ahead of time is beyond me ... also ... seems like such a simple idea ... but does anyone else think the new entrance turnstiles would be better if the arrow configuration was flipped, instead of the arrow wedging down into the park, it should be the opposite ... so that your not constantly bumping into people leaving the outer reader, while trying to get to the inner reader ... also would help with park exit ... maybe I am thinking about it too much, but I literally was run into every time I was going to the inner reader by someone leaving the outer reader.
Please consider what Iger said during the most recent earnings call:

"... we’ve completed the roll out of MyMagic+ to all guests"

On a more personal level, I watched a commercial this weekend on cable TV that mentioned MyMagic+ without mentioning the word "test".

MyMagic+ will continue to go through refinements for years. (As did the original FASTPASS.) However, V1.0 is now fully deployed.
 

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