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WildcatDen

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I'm still waiting for the American Adventure table service restaurant that has regional foods from all over the country that would include things like Chicago Style Pizza, New York style pizza, Philly Cheesesteak, crabs from maryland, Main Lobster, Ribs from a few different locations, and of course something with goat cheese for California.
Cincinnati can be used for their chili of Graeter's Ice Cream.
 

PREMiERdrum

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Please consider what Iger said during the most recent earnings call:

"... we’ve completed the roll out of MyMagic+ to all guests"

On a more personal level, I watched a commercial this weekend on cable TV that mentioned MyMagic+ without mentioning the word "test".

MyMagic+ will continue to go through refinements for years. (As did the original FASTPASS.) However, V1.0 is now fully deployed.

Yep... we've had the "non test" commercials running here for the last few weeks. They may add or change features as time goes on, but at least in their minds, it seems that the "roll out" phase is complete.

One final note on DCI / Drum Corps stuff, feel free to check out the group I teach at www.facebook.com/wmdrumline
 

Rasvar

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Please consider what Iger said during the most recent earnings call:

"... we’ve completed the roll out of MyMagic+ to all guests"

On a more personal level, I watched a commercial this weekend on cable TV that mentioned MyMagic+ without mentioning the word "test".

MyMagic+ will continue to go through refinements for years. (As did the original FASTPASS.) However, V1.0 is now fully deployed.

It's the 80/20 rule. It is considered rolled out but there are still about 10-20% of the features that aren't fully implemented. It's going to take another year or so to complete that last part.
 

Travel Junkie

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Who knew annual passes are starting to become as coveted as the waiting list for initiation into club 33. Am I the only one who thinks this is a dumb and weird move?

DLR has approximately 1 million AP’s. It’s a good problem to have, but it is indeed a problem. Friday nights and Sunday’s are an absolute nightmare. On a Sunday you may end up parking in a DLR lot, a DLR CM lot, a Convention Center lot, or a local mall lot. All of this because there are too many AP’s crushing the infrastructure. All of this is before you get into DL which was designed in the 50’s with small walkways and not able to accommodate the crowds it gets on a regular basis.
Long term they need to increase capacity in the current parks and possibly build a 3rd gate. Until that happens though they need to make things as pleasant as possible for those in the parks and capping AP’s is the quickest thing to do. This is not unprecedented. DLR also temporarily suspended AP sales in 2001.
 

PhotoDave219

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Interestingly, the last quarter was the first since "The Great Recession" to show pricing softness domestically.

Guest spending was up only 4% at the theme parks despite much higher prices, suggesting guests might have altered their spending patterns to compensate for price increases.

It also appears hotel room rates were flat year-over-year.

If interested, please read my detailed analysis here:

http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...vations-thoughts.882599/page-152#post-6082592

One quarter does not make a trend. It will be interesting to see what happens to Per Room Guest Spending (PRGS) and Per Capita Guest Spending (PCGS) this quarter. With the move of Easter wholly into the third quarter, WDW and DLR better show big bumps in their numbers.

This summer, Diagon Alley will be open, which will wreak havoc with any sort of budding trend.

Meanwhile, with MyMagic+ fully rolled out, corporate Disney needs to say something more concrete soon regarding MyMagic+'s financial performance. Iger and Rasulo cannot keep tapdancing around these questions forever.

No company can survive on a strategy of "raise prices". With Median Household Income flatlining, theme park prices are approaching a tipping point. As Henry Ford learned 100 years ago with his “$5 per day” strategy that helped grow the American Middle Class, companies like Disney need to pay their workers wages that allow for more discretionary spending; that keep pace with prices.

With Universal investing wisely in its theme parks, Disney needs to come up with something more competitive than MyMagic+, Pandora, and higher prices. Some of us old enough to well remember the 1980s and 1990s thought WDW was the most amazing place in the world. It’s time for Disney leadership to look at its past to see what made it great.

Let’s get WDW’s Renaissance started with Star Wars Land. :D

Some fascinating times are ahead. :)

Hopefully these SWW will bring the numbers to justify to Glendale to greenlight the project.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Who knew annual passes are starting to become as coveted as the waiting list for initiation into club 33. Am I the only one who thinks this is a dumb and weird move?

Nothing weird about it. It's a compromise to stop the growth without forcing those who are already in the program to give it up.

The swelling AP crowd and it's impact on DLR's infrastructure and crowing is nothing new. It's about time Disney did something about it vs greedily taking the money from anyone willing to hand it over.
 

CDavid

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Nothing weird about it. It's a compromise to stop the growth without forcing those who are already in the program to give it up.

The swelling AP crowd and it's impact on DLR's infrastructure and crowing is nothing new. It's about time Disney did something about it vs greedily taking the money from anyone willing to hand it over.

I wonder how much it will slow down the growth, though, when you can still get an annual pass with far fewer blackout dates for $140 more than the now suspended (for new sales) Southern California pass.
 

devoy1701

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DLR has approximately 1 million AP’s. It’s a good problem to have, but it is indeed a problem. Friday nights and Sunday’s are an absolute nightmare. On a Sunday you may end up parking in a DLR lot, a DLR CM lot, a Convention Center lot, or a local mall lot. All of this because there are too many AP’s crushing the infrastructure. All of this is before you get into DL which was designed in the 50’s with small walkways and not able to accommodate the crowds it gets on a regular basis.
Long term they need to increase capacity in the current parks and possibly build a 3rd gate. Until that happens though they need to make things as pleasant as possible for those in the parks and capping AP’s is the quickest thing to do. This is not unprecedented. DLR also temporarily suspended AP sales in 2001.
Sounds like Disneyland has justification to raise AP prices or make them first come/first serve....WDW, not so much, I still look back to how an AP now costs roughly 40% more than it did when my wife and I held them and I don't see the justification.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I wonder how much it will slow down the growth, though, when you can still get an annual pass with far fewer blackout dates for $140 more than the now suspended (for new sales) Southern California pass.

Disney has basically set the precedent they can cap those APs as well, even tho they haven't announced that stop at this point. So Disney can accept a number of them upgrade and then cap that too.

The thing about the crowding is... remember it's not just about total number of APs.. it's about the visiting patterns. If the same number of passes aren't crowded into the same limited available windows... crowding is lessened.

I look at this as Disney *finally* tipping their toes in the pool about altering the AP calendar and model they use. It's hard to step in front of the gravy train.. but looks like TDA finally got some balls to do so. Their motivations may be something different.. but time will tell :)
 

Omnispace

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Disney has basically set the precedent they can cap those APs as well, even tho they haven't announced that stop at this point. So Disney can accept a number of them upgrade and then cap that too.

The thing about the crowding is... remember it's not just about total number of APs.. it's about the visiting patterns. If the same number of passes aren't crowded into the same limited available windows... crowding is lessened.

I look at this as Disney *finally* tipping their toes in the pool about altering the AP calendar and model they use. It's hard to step in front of the gravy train.. but looks like TDA finally got some balls to do so. Their motivations may be something different.. but time will tell :)

It would seem like they are finally reacting to the overcrowding in the parks but I agree, there could be different motivations. It's easy to make adjustments in cost of admission based on financial models but social patterns are more difficult to predict. It seems like they keep taking a hit-and-miss approach to trying ways to even out the crowds, discovering what works and what doesn't. Basic reasoning would dictate that you can continue to raise prices until the crows thin to more reasonable levels. I find it interesting how that's now affecting purchases within the parks. It shows that the raising-prices approach does not always work. If you are popular, you raise capacity -- build more parks and attractions. Perhaps that's the business model Disney should really be focusing on.
 

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