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pheneix

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lazyboy97o said:
The Socialist Government is probably not going to be very keen on bailing out Euro Disney SCA, but they might be open to allowing Disney to buy out the other shareholders and fully integrate the Company into Walt Disney Parks and Resorts. Despite control of the SCA, The Walt Disney Company only owns about one third and does technically loan money versus directly ingesting like with the US parks.
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Bingo
 
Sue_Vongello

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It makes no sense for there to be Avatar announcements unless it is theme park related ... outside of theme parks there is no association between Avatar and Disney.

Basically that guy made a nonsensical response.
 
SirLink

SirLink

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pheneix said:
No, this is Disney's problem and they will have to take ownership of it. Closing the resort permanently is barely an option because the parks would simply be seized, stripped of Disney IP, and then reopened very shortly thereafter with a clean balance sheet and a new operator. Disney is not that dumb.

No one will buy these parks unless they go through bankruptcy. The deck is stacked too much against the resort.

Win/lose/draw, Disneyland Resort Paris as we know it is OVER folks. Maybe we'll get a miracle project like DCA 2.0. On the other hand, its also more likely that Disney simply raises a white flag and lets the resort flounder while it looks for new investors.

EDIT: EDL's first 6 months of financials for 2013 are online now. They reported a "narrower net loss" for this period but really its all just numbers being shoveled around to paper over losses. In truth, they don't even know if they will make payroll for the Christmas season.
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Now c'mon - there are things EuroDisney could do like *snap* that if they wanted to reduce problems with the resort and that is simply too many rooms on the property. So I doubt the whole if 'they will make payroll shtick', same thing happened before. Wait and see it'll get better - I trust the Prince that it'll get better.
 
SirLink

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Captain Neo said:
The irony is that the best Disney resort on the planet isn't even owned and operated by Disney. It truely is...Disney's best kept secret
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I would like the OLC to operate a Toei Animation theme park designed by ex-WDI guys, with better budget management.
 
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the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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Calvin Coolidge said:
Is there enough content in Ghibli's catalog to fill a park? I'm not so sure
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I think you're asking the wrong question. But think about it, there is so much talent at Ghibli so why shouldn't they be able to work with WDI/OLC team to build ORIGINAL attractions in addition to their current IP. I want to see Hayao Miyazaki and Co.'s Pirates, Haunted Mansion, etc.

Studio Ghibli IP that could work well in a theme park setting:
Totoro
Porco Rosso
Spirited Away
Kiki's Delivery Service
Nausicaa
The Borrower Arrietty

They also own the Japanese rights to Wallace and Gromit
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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SirLink said:
Now c'mon - there are things EuroDisney could do like *snap* that if they wanted to reduce problems with the resort and that is simply too many rooms on the property. So I doubt the whole if 'they will make payroll shtick', same thing happened before. Wait and see it'll get better - I trust the Prince that it'll get better.
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That sounds like leverage. The Government is not going to want people laid off. Better to work a special deal for Disney to buy everything than watch the Resort sink and people getting laid off.
 
alissafalco

alissafalco

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pheneix said:
No, this is Disney's problem and they will have to take ownership of it. Closing the resort permanently is barely an option because the parks would simply be seized, stripped of Disney IP, and then reopened very shortly thereafter with a clean balance sheet and a new operator. Disney is not that dumb.

No one will buy these parks unless they go through bankruptcy. The deck is stacked too much against the resort.

Win/lose/draw, Disneyland Resort Paris as we know it is OVER folks. Maybe we'll get a miracle project like DCA 2.0. On the other hand, its also more likely that Disney simply raises a white flag and lets the resort flounder while it looks for new investors.

EDIT: EDL's first 6 months of financials for 2013 are online now. They reported a "narrower net loss" for this period but really its all just numbers being shoveled around to paper over losses. In truth, they don't even know if they will make payroll for the Christmas season.
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Are they even doing anything to try and entice people to come?? Are they lowering prices? offering terrific specials/deals?? I guess I never will get the chance to go then :(
 
WDW1974

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First, I don't look like Leo.

Second, I think Leo's acting abilities peaked on Growing Pains.

Third, on more serious matters, the info out here by @pheneix is quite true. But DLP isn't closing and it isn't going seasonal either. This is all about manipulating the situation to FINALLY rid Disney of the albatross of debt that Euro Disney SCA has wracked up. Disney wants control of the resort completely and sans the current debt. All they are doing is posturing to remind the folks over there how important they are.
 
Rodan75

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WDW1974 said:
First, I don't look like Leo.

Second, I think Leo's acting abilities peaked on Growing Pains.

Third, on more serious matters, the info out here by @pheneix is quite true. But DLP isn't closing and it isn't going seasonal either. This is all about manipulating the situation to FINALLY rid Disney of the albatross of debt that Euro Disney SCA has wracked up. Disney wants control of the resort completely and sans the current debt. All they are doing is posturing to remind the folks over there how important they are.
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That is truly evil and brilliant. But I wonder what China would think of that?
 
WDW1974

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Rodan75 said:
That is truly evil and brilliant. But I wonder what China would think of that?
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China knows all too well about dealing with the rat. That's why SDL won't be a repeat of HKDL.

And with that, dinner beckons. Y'all have great weekends!
 
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Finally got to watch The Lone Ranger tonight. Great movie. Didn't feel it dragged at all. Depp and Hammer were great and William Fichtner was excellent. The critics really got it wrong. There were far worse movies out this summer. Disney really dropped the ball with marketing and release date for this movie. It was almost like they wanted it to fail.
 
The Empress Lilly

The Empress Lilly

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pheneix said:
No, this is Disney's problem and they will have to take ownership of it. Closing the resort permanently is barely an option because the parks would simply be seized, stripped of Disney IP, and then reopened very shortly thereafter with a clean balance sheet and a new operator. Disney is not that dumb.

No one will buy these parks unless they go through bankruptcy. The deck is stacked too much against the resort.

Win/lose/draw, Disneyland Resort Paris as we know it is OVER folks. Maybe we'll get a miracle project like DCA 2.0. On the other hand, its also more likely that Disney simply raises a white flag and lets the resort flounder while it looks for new investors.

EDIT: EDL's first 6 months of financials for 2013 are online now. They reported a "narrower net loss" for this period but really its all just numbers being shoveled around to paper over losses. In truth, they don't even know if they will make payroll for the Christmas season.
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I think the problem is that TWDC is not willing to solve DLP's issues as a forty percent minoity shareholder.

The remaining 60% of shares are worth scarcely $150 million. For the price of The Little Mermaid ride you can buy the whole of Disneyland Paris. (And it's $2 billion debt).
Why would TWDC infuse DLP with the necessary makeover means (say, $1,2 billion for a makeover for WDSP, rejuvenition of The Village, and a water park), when sixty percent of the profits will go elsewhere? And when for a fraction of the makeover costs ownership of the resort can be bought?
 
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