skippyrules104
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Ha, that's funny. Where he went to high school has nothing to do with money we've personally made.
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skippyrules104
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Why is it Ricky's responsibility to try and improve Disney?
HMF
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I would think as a fan one would want to use any influence you possibly have. People have more power than they think they do. If Disney feels threatened because of public outcry they are more likely to act. I believe that it is my responsibility as a fan to tell them if they are failing to deliver on what they promise.
stevehousse
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Really, again tonight! Why don't you let your husband stick up for himself instead of you trying to fix something (that like others have already stated earlier) that isn't even about you. No one here was personally attacking you or your husband, and you really don't need to defend anything because there is nothing to defend.
All the comments you keep making are just adding fuel to the fire. We know you aren't like the people we have talked about so I don't know why you keep trying to associate yourself with them?!?
skippyrules104
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Damn, I didn't realize I wasn't welcome to respond to something on here.
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ParentsOf4
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You make a valid point.
I've written this before and am writing it again: until Uni has an effective countermeasure to the Magic Kingdom (MK), Uni will always play second fiddle to WDW. IMHO, without MK, Uni is at theme park parity with WDW. (Uni needs the hotels though.) I think highly of Uni's 2 theme parks and, combined, feel they are on par with WDW's other 3 theme parks. However, you can't take away MK. In fact, WDW is entirely built around MK. MK is why people visit WDW. Not Epcot, not DAK, and certainly not DHS. It's MK. MK is the 800 pound gorilla in the room.
Still, Uni is positioning itself to seriously hurt WDW's business. WDW is spending over $2B on NextGen so they can squeeze a few more percent out of their guests. Uni's game plan is to provide its guests with concrete new experiences. Uni's game plan is to add value hotels. Uni's game plan is to enhance its parks and resorts in meaningful ways readily apparent to paying customers. Uni's game plan could potentially steal away 5%-to-10% of WDW's business. If that doesn't sound like much, I assure you that if WDW's attendance and occupancy rates were to decline 10% while Uni's jumped, heads would roll at WDW. No company takes a 10% decline in business casually.
To be clear, WDW is not going to go belly-up. WDW's business will remain strong. However, without further action, corporate Disney is positioning WDW to incur the same financial setbacks suffered by U.S. auto manufacturers in the 1980s.
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Get done? No, but someone who runs what purports to be "a leading source for the most interesting and entertaining Disney and theme park news and information" may be thought of having some influence, should they so deem to use it. In the same vein, one would think such a site could be substative enough to disclose that it receives various gifts from Disney, gifts that may impact it's reviews and reporting.
But if you know that Disney is getting its money, perhaps the mindset is to simply get yours (in whatever form) as well.....
WDWDad13
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wow this thread is getting ridiculously out of control - it amazes me how much negativity there is around here
look...the truth of the matter is we are all Disney fans otherwise we wouldn't be here... we all want to see Disney improve and add new attractions, etc. etc. but the way some are posting so much hate for other Disney fans/bloggers/reporters, etc.) or opinions that aren't the same as there own just truly amazes me
why can't we all just enjoy what ANY theme park has to offer us, post comments and suggestions on what we like and don't like or what we'd like to see, etc. and just be one happy Disney fan community instead of personally attacking others (like calling people Disney whores now...really?) who have the exact same interest we do, just have other outlets for sharing their information.
I can't tell if it's extreme jealousy by some or just that they have a larger outlet and some of you don't agree with what all they say or don't say... so what? Last I checked there are millions of blog sites, social media posts, and heck even tv news channels that say things 24/7 I don't agree with.... so maybe we should just get over it and accept it for what it is.....freedom of speech. These bloggers, podcasters, etc. aren't hurting anyone and if they want to promote the theme parks they love in a public way... so be it and more power to them. Some of these guys ands gals promote a TON of time and energy to doing this and share information to help and inform others that may not be as knowledgeable as some of us around here are (or think we are anyways).
honestly I just become more and more surprised by the day on here in regards to how much hate there is going around for something we ALL....ALL are a fan of. I'm sure some of you will come back at me and say things like "we wouldn't speak out if we didn't love it"...or "Disney is not what it use to be" ... fair enough and you're right...but this hate and attacking every single person that has a different opinion or profession that for some reason gets some people's harry potter underoos in a wad, well... it's getting old and if we truly think we're helping anything, we're not.
I think this is one of the best Disney message boards around because of the news and rumors sharing that takes place...however, some of the extreme hate and negativity towards individuals and some of the overboard things people post even against Disney on here seems to be drowning out the good parts of this message board...and I hate to see that.
so I guess I end with this... we all are fans of Disney in some way...some express it differently than others...we can talk about the good...we can talk about the bad...we can talk about what we want to see....but the sad state things are becoming around here are doing no good for anyone and if some get a power trip off of extreme bashing Disney or fans of Disney, you're covering up what most come for around here...the good and the fan community as a whole.
ok now everyone join hands... "there's a great big beautiful tomorrow...."
look...the truth of the matter is we are all Disney fans otherwise we wouldn't be here... we all want to see Disney improve and add new attractions, etc. etc. but the way some are posting so much hate for other Disney fans/bloggers/reporters, etc.) or opinions that aren't the same as there own just truly amazes me
why can't we all just enjoy what ANY theme park has to offer us, post comments and suggestions on what we like and don't like or what we'd like to see, etc. and just be one happy Disney fan community instead of personally attacking others (like calling people Disney whores now...really?) who have the exact same interest we do, just have other outlets for sharing their information.
I can't tell if it's extreme jealousy by some or just that they have a larger outlet and some of you don't agree with what all they say or don't say... so what? Last I checked there are millions of blog sites, social media posts, and heck even tv news channels that say things 24/7 I don't agree with.... so maybe we should just get over it and accept it for what it is.....freedom of speech. These bloggers, podcasters, etc. aren't hurting anyone and if they want to promote the theme parks they love in a public way... so be it and more power to them. Some of these guys ands gals promote a TON of time and energy to doing this and share information to help and inform others that may not be as knowledgeable as some of us around here are (or think we are anyways).
honestly I just become more and more surprised by the day on here in regards to how much hate there is going around for something we ALL....ALL are a fan of. I'm sure some of you will come back at me and say things like "we wouldn't speak out if we didn't love it"...or "Disney is not what it use to be" ... fair enough and you're right...but this hate and attacking every single person that has a different opinion or profession that for some reason gets some people's harry potter underoos in a wad, well... it's getting old and if we truly think we're helping anything, we're not.
I think this is one of the best Disney message boards around because of the news and rumors sharing that takes place...however, some of the extreme hate and negativity towards individuals and some of the overboard things people post even against Disney on here seems to be drowning out the good parts of this message board...and I hate to see that.
so I guess I end with this... we all are fans of Disney in some way...some express it differently than others...we can talk about the good...we can talk about the bad...we can talk about what we want to see....but the sad state things are becoming around here are doing no good for anyone and if some get a power trip off of extreme bashing Disney or fans of Disney, you're covering up what most come for around here...the good and the fan community as a whole.
ok now everyone join hands... "there's a great big beautiful tomorrow...."
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janoimagine
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I don't think anyone is saying that on this forum, but the issue is people turning a blind eye to the current state of affairs at the Florida property ... potentially because they are getting free handouts ... without fully disclosing the handouts.
alphac2005
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From my perspective on the manufacturing and retail side, Marvel licensed toy products continue to underperform on the big box side and Monsters University was a grossly overproduced line on the consumer products side and they're struggling to unload product. I've seen discounting of the MU of up to 50% places and where there isn't discounting, the shelves are full with poorly performing product. I believe ThinkAway has the license here and that's going to be a real bummer when they have mass quantities of pallets of returned, unsold big box merchandise. ThinkAway produced a limited line of Despicable Me 2 products and the shelves are completely bare.
A side-note with regard to the issue of too much DISNEY product in the marketplace: I was speaking to the owner and management of a company that we used to do a good deal of business with and I was asking as to why they had let certain licenses lapse? Disney was a big license for this company for half of the past decade. The answer was simple, the licensing fees were absurd and the marketplace is flooded with too much Disney product. The same company that dropped Disney also manufactured Marvel products (licensing deal predating the Disney purchase) and now has brought DC Comics on-board. Their answer for that one was real simple, Marvel barely moved and they can't keep Batman, Superman, Wonder Women, etc. produced at a fast enough clip. The reality is that what this company produces, (Guess what?) DC doesn't have the marketplace flooded with junk and it makes the product desirable.
That doesn't even get into the PITA that Disney Consumer Products is for manufacturers, as I have a friend who owned a major toy company (sold in the past several years), and the hoops they had to go through to get DISNEY to approve any of the final product designs would make one rip their hair out. Multiple times the issues became so absurd that this guy's holiday products wouldn't get to retailers until after the holidays because of the arcane approval process.
alphac2005
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Flooring. It seems inane, but it tells plenty about hotels and resorts. Go down the walkways of a corridor in a WDW Resort and feel the carpet and padding (or quality of stone, hardwood, etc), walk elsewhere at a high-end resort without the Disney prices, the flooring standard is nearly universally better at the higher end, lower priced property.
Darth Sidious
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I would find it hard to believe that Disney doesn't know exactly what fans want. They just choose to peruse other investments because they know at this point in time they don't have to do anything. This will bite them in the rear just like it has companies beforehand. Take for example GM, a great corporate ally of Disney's. They believed they could continue to build large SUVs even though they knew people wanted fuel efficiency. They knew the SUVs were still selling well so why dump money into new designs when they can just let their cars sell to those who still wanted them. Turns out they sold cars for a few more years losing a little each year and boom... Before you know it they are sitting there wondering what happened. What happened was you let your arrogance and shortsightedness get in the way and you lost it all. Since bankruptcy and the bail out, the company has changed and it is recording record profits. Go figure. Now this example has many parts, some of which would truly derail this thread but on a high level they thought about now and not tomorrow.
Will Disney go bankrupt, no and not because I think they are invincible but because I think things will eventually change. They will however have a narrower gap between themselves and their competitors.
Will Disney go bankrupt, no and not because I think they are invincible but because I think things will eventually change. They will however have a narrower gap between themselves and their competitors.
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asianway
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They wouldn't...only the guests can.
He could help to open their eyes & chooses not to.
I don't want any help from Ricky,trust me, I can get out to the foreign parks multiple times a year, but you would think he would want to push for a better experience for himself. Oh wait forgot he's on the Cadillac plan.
RSoxNo1
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I'm still waiting for Universal to start offering discounts to DVC members... I really think it should happen.The Orlando Sentinel's article is titled Universal may add thousands of hotel rooms. This should be the most frightening quote for corporate Disney:
Burke told analysts that NBCUniversal wants to position the Universal theme parks as "a family destination in and of itself, and not an add-on destination for somebody that spends three or four days somewhere else."
Universal is going for the jugular while corporate Disney plays with a $2B wristband designed to squeeze a few more percent out of their already grossly overcharged "guests".
Burbank has no clue about the pending train wreck in Orlando. At least they can count on an Avatar Land and a value engineered Star Wars Land to save the day.
In about 5-to-7 years.
Longhairbear
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Honestly?, Ricky may be poised to be the Al Lutz of Disneyland's transformation back when Al was about the quality of the Disneyland Resort before it was even called The Disneyland Resort on the old alt.net newsgroups which predates the current social media.
I personally sparred with Al during that period, because I was still under the influence of Pixie Dust. Things were not moderated then, and it got ugly. Al would not accept any of the Pixie Dust and called me out, and a lot of others. I hated him, and look what we ended up with in California. A fully refreshed Disneyland, and a second class DCA, that was later turned around.
So yes, Ricky should be calling out WDW on their faults, and WDW best qualities. That's called being unbiased. Especially if he is a fan, and wants the best from Disney. Go ahead, take the perks sent your way, but report the truth. No sugar coating. The best job Ricky can do is report the truth, even when it is negative, whether he likes it, or not.
scout68
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Ahhhhhh. This certainly triggers the question I have been contemplating.
With critical "reporting" (I use this term very loosely) will the perks dry up?
Lee
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Based on the example PhotoDave provided earlier.....yeah. Absolutely.
Ask tough/wrong questions and find yourself on the outside looking in. No matter how big and well-respected your site is.
Longhairbear
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WDWDad13
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why do people think he does what he does for perks? My guess is he didn't get jack or ask for anything from Disney when he first got started doing this and he is/was just a fan of Disney wanting to share information with the fan community.
I just don't understand why there is so much hate for the Disney fan bloggers, podcasters, etc. just because they have more ability to share information publically and get a few perks here or there for sharing information to others?
I just don't understand why there is so much hate for the Disney fan bloggers, podcasters, etc. just because they have more ability to share information publically and get a few perks here or there for sharing information to others?
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