Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV

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englanddg

One Little Spark...
Here's one for all you fellow Tangled fans. The Rapunzel scene from DLP's dreams. It's magical.



As we all know, the 'lantarns over the castle' scene is subliminal marketing to imprint Disney imagery into young minds, just like the New Orleans imagery from Princess and the Frog. Still, it is a marvel to behold those lantarns float up over an actual Disney castle.


The point of this post is also to show the impact Tangled has had. It is no mistake that those (theme-wrecking) bathrooms are Tangled themed, and that the new FL m&G will have for its two princesses Cinderella and Rapunzel. This one's here to stay.

My kiddo was SO upset when she spotted the new Tower at WDW...and found out it wasn't a ride.

She was also ed that BaTB was a restaurant and not a ride (yes, I know they have Storytime as well, I'm telling you her perspective)....she was done with NFL after that.

Disney missed out big time...I think.
 

The Empress Lilly

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My kiddo was SO upset when she spotted the new Tower at WDW...and found out it wasn't a ride.

She was also ed that BaTB was a restaurant and not a ride (yes, I know they have Storytime as well, I'm telling you her perspective)....she was done with NFL after that.

Disney missed out big time...I think.
She and every other sane person. From the girls in princess dresses to the most worldy critic. Although I guess it hurts Disney even more when even the eight year old girl thinks it - because then what on earth has been the point?

The MK is worse now than before NFL.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
She and every other sane person. From the girls in princess dresses to the most worldy critic. Although I guess it hurts Disney even more when even the eight year old girl thinks it - because then what on earth has been the point?

The MK is worse now than before NFL.
When I can't interest her in it...they have issues. These attractions don't attract adults (who aren't Disnuts)...and they don't attract kids (who are)...what are they left with?

According to her Mom she's been seeing adverts for NFL and was excited by it...when she found out it had one ride, and that BaTB was a meet and greet show mixed with a restaurant...yep, she wasn't thrilled.

And...she was VERY upset that Tangled didn't get a ride.

She still loves Disney, but found NFL boring. We never had a LeFous Brew, we never even went down there. The extent of her interest was the Little Mermaid ride and I had to drag her onto that (we had fastpasses)...

She quite literally walked in and walked out. That's why I don't have a lot of pictures about the area.

If you want my opinion, I also was not impressed...but I wasn't as upset as she was (I had to listen to her gripe about how cool belle is and how she deserved her own ride and how Rapunzel did as well...Disney execs don't...)
 
I would like you to address the question that I asked you.

Why should someone who is not a professional journalist insist on being treated as such? Things such as media events, accreditation are for professionals, which you have admitted that you are not. So why do you insist on being treated special?

I will continue to repeat the question until you address it.
Sorry for the delayed reply. I'm just now reading this. Where do you get that Ricky insists on being invited to events or insists on being treated as special? Do you have an example. Just curious.
 
So he didn't like a dessert from France...

Does he mention what a poor value you get for your dollar at WDW?

Does he ever mention how stale the parks have become?

Does he discuss how few new headliner attractions have been built in the past decade?

And for kicks does he ever compare/contrast the visible effort between WDW, Uni, and SeaWorld?
Does he actually feel that he doesn't get his dollars worth at WDW? Does he feel that the parks are stale? Does he care only about headliner attractions? Why do you assume he feels this way. Perhaps he doesn't.
 

PhotoDave219

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Sorry for the delayed reply. I'm just now reading this. Where do you get that Ricky insists on being invited to events or insists on being treated as special? Do you have an example. Just curious.

I would like you to address the question that I asked you.

Why should someone who is not a professional journalist insist on being treated as such? Things such as media events, accreditation are for professionals, which you have admitted that you are not. So why do you insist on being treated special?

I will continue to repeat the question until you address it.
 
The discussion was about the roomful of bloggers invited by Disney to an event at the Cali grill - it became about Ricky when his wife took exception to the Spirited characterization of that group... but it was never about him as an individual (I don't even think his name came up) until then.

It's about the larger group of bloggers.

As to what's stopping "someone" from becoming the journalist that exposes the lax approach to WDW lately, it's probably the fact that most of us here are working adults already engaged in other careers. But just because we're NOT the journalist that exposes the lax approach to WDW lately, does that mean we can't have an opinion of the coverage Disney gets - positive or negative - whether it's via traditional media (which also comes up regular) or new media?



This, to an extent, I can agree with - although it's not quite the same in that the local population of Orlando aren't the proportion of WDW visitors the way locals are at DLR.
I think there is some misinformation about the blog meet up. The people who were invited to the event were not bloggers with their own sites, although some happened to be. In order to go to this event,you had to request an invite by submitting your info once the Disney Parks Blog people said to contact them. Then, some of those people made it on the list. Anyone could have gone. You just had to sit at a computer or device and wait for the exact moment you were asked to submit the request. There are a ton of people who constantly check the site so they can try to get in the second it becomes available. This party was not exclusive to bloggers.
 

nytimez

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I think there is some misinformation about the blog meet up. The people who were invited to the event were not bloggers with their own sites, although some happened to be. In order to go to this event,you had to request an invite by submitting your info once the Disney Parks Blog people said to contact them. Then, some of those people made it on the list. Anyone could have gone. You just had to sit at a computer or device and wait for the exact moment you were asked to submit the request. There are a ton of people who constantly check the site so they can try to get in the second it becomes available. This party was not exclusive to bloggers.

Anyone could go.

So it's entirely coincidental that many of Orlando's "lifestyle" bloggers were chosen for this event?
 
I dont see the point of bloggers and their musings, its a bit like the opinion column in a newspaper (RIP) after all in the real world the only opinion of note is my own and for some reason I usually find it to be right.
Who cares if some people are dining in the trough, if its good enough for the political masters why shouldnt the little man get in on the action. And who are people to comment on the ease at which people are willing to sell their souls, they dont know they may need the money to fund a drug habit or to pay for hookers or beer, or to have law enforcement officers look the other way for indiscretions of a family member. Maybe they just like free stuff but dont want to nick it.
Speaking of this, have you googled Shawn Bonneau from Walt Cast?
 
So it's entirely coincidental that many of Orlando's "lifestyle" bloggers were chosen for this event?
The parks blog posted earlier in the day to be on the lookout for a post to sign up. So yes, many of the same people, including myself, kept checking to try to get in. I did not get on my own but was invited as a guest. A lot of us are friends so if one doesn't get in, usually a friend will add us as a guest.
 

Longhairbear

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or a typical airport Marriott ...
Speaking of high priced rooms, say the Poly, and the upcoming villas. Have you heard why they are scaling back on the DVC component at the Poly? Why are they building Grand Villas, that are smaller than the others, and studios only? I've been following Tikiman's posts on this.
 
Ill probably tick some people off on both sides here...but Ill assume you are legit until proven otherwise. If so, I have to say kudos for stepping in the WDWmagic sandbox. That does take some measure of courage.

I dont think anyone would disagree with the fact that Ricky is an uber-fan and knows his stuff. But getting beyond the argument of blogger vs journalist, lets forget that for a moment. WDW has serious issues with infrastructure, SQSs, CM training, and allocation of resources. They are falling behind every other business unit in the WDPR empire in all of these things and Ricky is one of the leading bloggers who covers this. He is someone who could effect and lead positive change if he were to "turn heel" as it were. Given Kevin Yee's lack of credentialed insider status(and I believe Kevin isnt critical enough on many things, bordering on moderate), we all know what that would mean for Ricky.

So the perception here is that you are putting your own best interests above what many fans would consider the best interests of the parks in general. True or not, this is the perception. I could also argue that given the quality of guests at WDW they get what they deserve, but I digress...

Once upon a time, Ricky said he didnt want to be negative and only focused on the positive. I have noticed recently that even he has been more critical, so he seems to be moving in a more balanced direction-but I admit I dont pay that close attention.
So you really think Ricky could have THAT much influence on Disney? He doesn't work for the company. Why would they make changes based on what he thinks? Why should it be up to him to improve your overall Disney experience?
 
Just wondering why bloggers' wives are suddenly more willing to defend the work than the bloggers themselves?

There's a good and lively discussion to be had here... one that I hope would be civil... if we could get some participation from the players instead of their significant others.
Because Ricky could care less about how people define what type of reporter/blogger/or whatever category you put him in. This topic was brought to my attention by a friend so I thought I'd check it out. He doesn't need me to defend him, but of course I didn't like him being called a , so I didn't want to sit quiet.
 

HMF

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When I can't interest her in it...they have issues. These attractions don't attract adults (who aren't Disnuts)...and they don't attract kids (who are)...what are they left with?

According to her Mom she's been seeing adverts for NFL and was excited by it...when she found out it had one ride, and that BaTB was a meet and greet show mixed with a restaurant...yep, she wasn't thrilled.

And...she was VERY upset that Tangled didn't get a ride.

She still loves Disney, but found NFL boring. We never had a LeFous Brew, we never even went down there. The extent of her interest was the Little Mermaid ride and I had to drag her onto that (we had fastpasses)...

She quite literally walked in and walked out. That's why I don't have a lot of pictures about the area.

If you want my opinion, I also was not impressed...but I wasn't as upset as she was (I had to listen to her gripe about how cool belle is and how she deserved her own ride and how Rapunzel did as well...Disney execs don't...)
Kids tend to be better at seeing the big picture rather than over-thinking adults with tunnel-vision who see the world they want to see and can't think in broad terms or anywhere outside of their own agenda and are too concerned with keeping up their social façade and think that anything can be explained by artificial formulas. They will tell you what they think without reservation and can often see through spin and manipulation .
 
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The Empress Lilly

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The parks blog posted earlier in the day to be on the lookout for a post to sign up. So yes, many of the same people, including myself, kept checking to try to get in. I did not get on my own but was invited as a guest. A lot of us are friends so if one doesn't get in, usually a friend will add us as a guest.
But miss Ricky, this is exactly the issue that some here have objected too.

A group of people, friends and acquaintances, who all hang out at the DPB pressing the refresh button all day long, Disney lifestylers, the same group that goes from event to event, all people of questionable reporting qualities, with often limited audience, who are groomed and pampered by TWDC.

Personally, I can't get too worked up about it. If anything, it reveals clumsiness and wasted effort by TWDC more than sinister, all-powerful manupilation.


I shall also continue to ask you this same question every thirty minutes, for two days in a row, until you answer it. Oh wait, I won't, I'm not a tiresome lout.
 
I think that whomever from the Grill meet-and-eat crowd who put you up to posting here (and I have a few ideas from the blogging community and even pals from Celebration Place) set you up.

I would only suggest that they had other motives at play and not your or Ricky's best interests at heart.

I'd also suggest that regardless of where your husband falls on the media spectrum (and I have seen FOX travel stories with his name on them and they almost count as legit media), it is never a good idea to come onto a forum and say that your husband is not a professional. He absolutely is. A professional what is more of the question.
Honestly, nobody put me up to posting. A friend merely told me that Ricky was being called a and I wanted to see why. I don't even know who runs Celebration Place. I'm not saying I don't know or haven't met the people, I just forget who is on what site. But I do know that my friend who told me about the comment isn't on that site.
 
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