Spirited News, Observations & Thoughts IV

[ford91exploder]

Trying to book a Dec visit at a DVC villa on points with our DVC membership at DLR with no luck. Second choice is DLH, then PPH.
The inns are full.

Don't log in to a disney site use 'private browsing' so no cookies active to try and book same reservation, I think you will find availability, This is the other thing which has been bugging me recently DVC seems to be playing games with breakage ie handing off DVC inventory to CRO much earlier than they have in the past.

 

[71jason]

Obvious troll is obvious.

At least the paid plants could make a semicoherent argument.

 

[ford91exploder]

I am truly bewildered. Get off a ride with very complex anamatronics and call it "plastic"? Then get on Peter Pan and think it's great with it's one or two moving parts? I simply do not understand it at all. What is everyone really comparing? It's a puzzle! Was someone expecting a real Mermaid?

No, We are talking about how the lighting is so bright the show elements don't have any pretense of realism if you go on a 'Dark Ride' you don't expect to be able to see every element of the ceiling grid and while the fish obviously have to be made of plastic or wood the lighting shows them exactly as they are instead of creating an environment which encourages suspension of reality.

It's as though they cut the budget and just decided to leave the worklights on instead of properly lighting the attraction. Have you ever seen PoTC with the worklights on ? I have and the effect is ruined the lighting finishes the attraction.

 

[ford91exploder]

Was the ending surreal and the kid actually died?

That's the way I saw it. Reverse Radio Flyer.

Disney was a master at making evil cute, Fantasia, Bambi, etc

 

[ScoutN]

I want to take a step back and discuss something that I feel deserves being touched upon ( watch the jokes, only Spirit can crack those). Toy Story of Terror. I do not know how some felt about it but it blew my expectations away. Did Disney actually put something out that was teaching a lesson? Talking about overcoming fears? How to build courage? Where did that one come from? I certainly did not see it coming.

 

[Soarin' Over Pgh]

Can we talk about REAL news?


@WDW1974 , @Lee , @marni1971 ... with the current articles in the news regarding the thick smog in China, do you think this will have any impact on Shanghai Disneyland?

 

[Goofyernmost]

No, We are talking about how the lighting is so bright the show elements don't have any pretense of realism if you go on a 'Dark Ride' you don't expect to be able to see every element of the ceiling grid and while the fish obviously have to be made of plastic or wood the lighting shows them exactly as they are instead of creating an environment which encourages suspension of reality.

It's as though they cut the budget and just decided to leave the worklights on instead of properly lighting the attraction. Have you ever seen PoTC with the worklights on ? I have and the effect is ruined the lighting finishes the attraction.

I understand what you are saying and agree, however, there is nothing about the Peter Pan ride that doesn't look plastic, that doesn't stop the story or the fun. Everything in Disney is Plastic and it looks it.

 

[Lucky]

Have you ever seen PoTC with the worklights on ? I have and the effect is ruined the lighting finishes the attraction.

Pick-up bars dim their lights too, for similar reasons.

 

[stlphil]

At the core - they are the same. The problem is in the case of Disney.. the fans are often more interested in the 'how' then the actual outcome (see every 'screens suck' thread). In industry, the motivation is to reinvent to do more with less, etc. In the case of Disney, the motivation is the same... 'Take this concept, and do it better..' Same exact thing... The problem is how does one define 'better'...

The compromises TDO allow or use in their refinements are associated with negative connotations in the fan community. Hence, when WDW1974 exposed TDO's use of the term 'value engineering' to describe their process of reworking a concept to be done cheaper.. and we all see the outcome as inferior to the original concept.. in the fan community 'value engineering' becomes synonymous with 'cheapening'. The principles are actually the same - It is the tolerance for what is 'equivalent' is actually what fans are critical of and where TDO's version of value engineering has become a negative term.

Negative by association...

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I always wanted to see it, but never got a chance to...

That is really a shame. Of course there are rumors that it may reappear in some form as part of the JP expansion, so maybe there is hope.

JP was pretty fleshed out at park opening what with the water ride, flyers ride, triceratops encounter, the great playground, and "some" parts of the discovery center (the kids loved watching a dinosaur hatch, and it does closely resemble the movie).

 

[PhotoDave219]

You get the golf course yet? Thats the only property I have yet to buy.

Ive been in Online lately and no, no I havent.

 

[ford91exploder]

Pick-up bars dim their lights too, for similar reasons.

It's why in the days of large format (Negative Size 4x5 and larger) portraiture photographers would use a 'soft focus' lens and would light creatively Rembrandt lighting was very popular, Hides the details and emphasizes the sitter's major features. Direct bright light YEECCHHHH!!!

 

[ford91exploder]

Can we talk about REAL news?


@WDW1974 , @Lee , @marni1971 ... with the current articles in the news regarding the thick smog in China, do you think this will have any impact on Shanghai Disneyland?

Masks with a Mickey head printed on them....

 

[lazyboy97o]

I want to take a step back and discuss something that I feel deserves being touched upon ( watch the jokes, only Spirit can crack those). Toy Story of Terror. I do not know how some felt about it but it blew my expectations away. Did Disney actually put something out that was teaching a lesson? Talking about overcoming fears? How to build courage? Where did that one come from? I certainly did not see it coming.

I was more surprised that they built on a character trait shown, but never really emphasized, in a film from 1999.

 

[WildcatDen]

"Golf Clap!!!!!"

A golf clap with exclamations is no longer a golf clap. . . just saying.

 

[PhotoDave219]

It's why in the days of large format (Negative Size 4x5 and larger) portraiture photographers would use a 'soft focus' lens and would light creatively Rembrandt lighting was very popular, Hides the details and emphasizes the sitter's major features. Direct bright light YEECCHHHH!!!

Yeah, I always hide things in shadows. Hate direct light.

 

[WildcatDen]

got my panties in a bind but that was while doing the pole routine at club Dew Chay Bag

Fixed that for ya Cletus. Now, go put in your other tooth before heading out to the Piggle Wiggly.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Yeah, I always hide things in shadows. Hate direct light.

I LOVE harsh direct light. It makes the murder scene more "real".

Beats the Hell out of trying to light the scene with my sat truck headlights.

 

[culturenthrills]

I want to take a step back and discuss something that I feel deserves being touched upon ( watch the jokes, only Spirit can crack those). Toy Story of Terror. I do not know how some felt about it but it blew my expectations away. Did Disney actually put something out that was teaching a lesson? Talking about overcoming fears? How to build courage? Where did that one come from? I certainly did not see it coming.

Yeah, it was really good. If they are gonna be that high quality, I have no problem with them making another TV special. Also, all of the shorts have been great too.

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Yeah, it was really good. If they are gonna be that high quality, I have no problem with them making another TV special. Also, all of the shorts have been great too.

Where can I find this Toy Story of Terror? Hulu?

 

[Bairstow]

When the hotel villain puts Woody and Jesse in the boxes, did anyone else notice who he was mailing them to?