flynnibus
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I think that is really the inverse.. people say 'how can I goto FL without visiting WDW?' - more than people picking Orlando because they feel the need for their cruise to include WDW.
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Spirited News & Observations II -- NGE/Baxter
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I think that is really the inverse.. people say 'how can I goto FL without visiting WDW?' - more than people picking Orlando because they feel the need for their cruise to include WDW.
Todd H
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i actually decided to do a "warts and all" trip report. I will leave no stone unturned. The good, the bad, and the stupid will all be talked about. Already mentioned the "bathroom" incident there.
dupac
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This reminds me of this video...
www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_leaders_inspire_action.html
Good points. But I don't think Disney is worried about any bad images from the city ... the place is world known for its cuisine and music (some history too!) and I could easily see AvD tours before/after a DCL voyage in the future.
@Len Testa responded on the MM+ test thread that he was there on his dime ... and I responded with the following <<>> but before I quote that all I want to add is there's a big difference between taking money from Disney (I don't know who does, although I am sure they have paid BRAND ADVOCATES out there ... Mongello sure seems like one!) and not taking anything of monetary value (like AL Lutz) or taking favors of any kind (that can be anything from free flights, trips, cruises, hotel stays, meals, booze, tickets, swag, special access to VIPs, events, discounted stays etc). I don't know the full story on what Len owns/controls. I am of the belief (correct me if I am wrong) that the UG is associated with/owns Touring Plans and they're under the same umbrella. That said, here's what I posted on the other thread:
<<True enough and I don't know Len at all (I think we may have met sometime in the past though), but if he or any of his staff/associates take things from Disney, then that should be stated. ... I believe @WDWFigment was working for him at the Cars Land opening when he was given a room at the Grand Cali for FREE as well as ticket media, food and booze and admission to the party. Those things always are tricky for bloggers especially the party/pressers/announcements because one could argue there is no price attached, but they certainly have a great value to many.
Also, many times, bloggers are given 'media rates' and they can be phenomenal (would you stay at the GF for $125 a night ... how about Pop for $40?).
It is very grey and is something I like to shed light on. >>
Is it wrong to 'like' a post that is one word -- and a reponse to me?
I do like to be liked ...
Cosmic Commando
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In an alternate universe somewhere, that same ride is opening at Animal Kingdom and an imagineer is saying the exact same thing.
I've never read it. I don't read guidebooks to places I know as well as my hometown (or better!) ... I might read one if someone gave me a copy.
But I never said anything about their objectivity. They may well be objective and still get social media 'benefits' ... I have no idea ... but recall I didn't know what a Lou Mongello was until two years ago. So, I've missed the whole social media explosion.
Not in the near term, but I would expect them to down the road. ... but they have a lot of interest in Europe and Asia and even places as far as Australia and New Zealand.
And that is why you will see new ships a LOT sooner than Disney is leading on. Trust me on this one, I broke the news of two new ships back in 07 on LaughingPlace.com and my sources are impeccable on this subject. ... The Magic and Wonder don't have that many more years of sailing North America in them, but newer markets they could go for another decade-plus.
I hate I-10 ... I find that area can be scary. As to the UNF Ospreys, I have some close friends that work for that fine institution of higher learning/factory of education and earning $$$!
Genie of the Lamp
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I can just see the newest DCL Vessel/ship(s) sailing the high seas: "The Disney Enchantment" as suggested by @heatherkatheleen and/or "The Disney Royalty". Looks like I'm going to have book my week cruise on the Fantasy in the Eastern Caribbean real soon.
articos
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Nope!
Nemo14
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I hope '74 won't mind my adding some slightly off-topic observations of my own from this week.
We are renting a condo this month about 10 minutes from WDW. This past week it has been more crowded with winter-break families, and we've noticed a lack of kids in Disney clothing (well, there are a few) and not a whole lot of people carrying bags of Disney merchandise. We've talked to a few families while we're out walking, and the majority of them have said that they are not going to WDW because it is too expensive when they can visit Universal and/or Sea World for far less money. We met up with friends from home this afternoon who have 2 school-aged kids, and they said the same thing. They really didn't feel that Disney was worth the money for their family. I'm not sure if we just hang around with less wealthy people, or if this is a trend. It does sound like the Disney parks have been busy this week, but so have Universal and Sea World.
Just an observation....
We are renting a condo this month about 10 minutes from WDW. This past week it has been more crowded with winter-break families, and we've noticed a lack of kids in Disney clothing (well, there are a few) and not a whole lot of people carrying bags of Disney merchandise. We've talked to a few families while we're out walking, and the majority of them have said that they are not going to WDW because it is too expensive when they can visit Universal and/or Sea World for far less money. We met up with friends from home this afternoon who have 2 school-aged kids, and they said the same thing. They really didn't feel that Disney was worth the money for their family. I'm not sure if we just hang around with less wealthy people, or if this is a trend. It does sound like the Disney parks have been busy this week, but so have Universal and Sea World.
Just an observation....
asianway
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Merf certainly has strong opinions on this topic
Not really. Those are just the newbies that DCL hooks and makes them think that 3 and 4-day 'voyages' to the Bahamas are what cruising is all about. ... DCL gets incredibly high (and deservingly so) marks from most expert cruisers. The folks who are interested in starting a MAGICal WDW trip with three nights on the Dream aren't, for the most part, those who will be sailing the Med with them this summer or even Alaska.
To me, anything less than nine nights is barely a cruise (and, yes, I am taking a DCL 5-nighter soon, but that largely has to do with my lovely traveling companion!)
But I guess the point here (sorry, watching someone on TV that is really getting on my nerves) is DCL cruisers are largely two groups, the one you mentioned and the one I am a part of.
i actually decided to do a "warts and all" trip report. I will leave no stone unturned. The good, the bad, and the stupid will all be talked about. Already mentioned the "bathroom" incident there.
I will check it out when time permits ... I normally wouldn't, but anything with a 'bathroom incident' is worthy of my time!
DougK
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There's that name again!
Yes. And he has expressed them to me privately. I won't share those. But I do believe his words have merit as he worked for Len and with Scarlett and the gang from TP.
But if he puts something on his site or Twit feed that pertains to the discussion, then I will import it.
DougK
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I would expect, in honor of you, that one of the new ships will be named the Disney Spirit!
(Disney 74 doesn't quite sound right).
I would expect, in honor of you, that one of the new ships will be named the Disney Spirit!
(Disney 74 doesn't quite sound right).
I hereby nominate this as WDWMAGIC.com's Post of the Year 2013!
Honestly, I can't believe I never thought of that as a great name for a Disney ship! I'd love to sail on that baby!