Rumor Spaceship Earth Redo Shelved Indefinitely

DreamfinderGuy

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If WoL gets any development it's a bulldozer.
They are very specifically dead set on not tearing it down. Obviously that may change if time goes on with no development, but they spent a lot of money on structural improvements that they are not going to throw away yet. There is a desire to reuse the dome again, how far that desire will go is anybody's guess. It's not considered an issue of high importance at the moment.
 

Streetway

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I’m with you. I don’t think any of them have ill intent or set out to create a bad ride. I just don’t think they’re good at what they do.
That’s what I think about a lot of attractions. Even JIWFF. Reminds me of the story rod miller, the original walk around dreamfinder where about 10-15 years after the fact, one of his old imagineering buddies told him “rod, I worked on Journey Into Your Imagination, I’m sorry” also Kevin rafferty. I gotta get his book.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Apart from retheming the ride with Inside Out characters, I don't really understand why a new Inside Out film for the magic eye theater would increase the odds of a ride overhaul.

There have been several different rotating shows in that theater since the pavilion opened. None of them have ever had any major connection to the Imagination ride itself. Magic Journeys was used as a theme throughout the pavilion, but otherwise had no connection to the ride. It was also later moved over to the Philharmagic theater after Captain EO took over. Captain EO also had no relevance to the ride. Nor did HISTA apart from a couple of photos and names in the queue and backgrounds.

What is stopping Disney from cheaping out and putting an Inside Out movie in the theater while continuing to ignoring the ride? If Figment still sells his plushies anyway, then what incentive is there to do anything with the ride? Outside of again just making it an Inside Out ride and giving up on Imagination entirely.
 

aladdin2007

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I cant help but think they are looking at epic and realizing some things have been let go for far too long, maybe time to start spending/update on actual attractions in place and not wasting millions on ripping out fountains for weird planters. Not that anything would be done by epic opening, nothing will obviously, just saying they cant keep sitting on their weak rumps and ignore things that need attention, some for over a decade or more which is pathetic. And here we are with more problems than we can count because of so much left for so long without the proper attention, not to mention newly created problems mainly at Epcot. Its like the park is being ran by oompa loompas, whom could do so much better probably.
 

DreamfinderGuy

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There have been several different rotating shows in that theater since the pavilion opened. None of them have ever had any major connection to the Imagination ride itself. Nor did HISTA apart from a couple of photos and names in the queue and backgrounds.
HISTA was so huge that they rethemed the entire pavilion around it. The Imagination Institute concept was created for HISTA, then when that film was a hit they made it the theme of the ride. HISTA coexisted with Imagination 2/3 (therefore giving the whole pavilion a cohesive theme) for far longer than it did with the original.
 

Moth

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Apart from retheming the ride with Inside Out characters, I don't really understand why a new Inside Out film for the magic eye theater would increase the odds of a ride overhaul.

There have been several different rotating shows in that theater since the pavilion opened. None of them have ever had any major connection to the Imagination ride itself. Magic Journeys was used as a theme throughout the pavilion, but otherwise had no connection to the ride. It was also later moved over to the Philharmagic theater after Captain EO took over. Captain EO also had no relevance to the ride. Nor did HISTA apart from a couple of photos and names in the queue and backgrounds.

What is stopping Disney from cheaping out and putting an Inside Out movie in the theater while continuing to ignoring the ride? If Figment still sells his plushies anyway, then what incentive is there to do anything with the ride? Outside of again just making it an Inside Out ride and giving up on Imagination entirely.

What I've previously heard, Inside Out's show could be used as a 'Trojan Horse' for them to approve a complete overhaul of the pavilion. Inside Out would be more than just a film also, I heard AAs could be in the equation here.



This isn't Spaceship Earth talk. Why does everything EPCOT end up Imagination lmao.
 

Streetway

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What I've previously heard, Inside Out's show could be used as a 'Trojan Horse' for them to approve a complete overhaul of the pavilion. Inside Out would be more than just a film also, I heard AAs could be in the equation here.



This isn't Spaceship Earth talk. Why does everything EPCOT end up Imagination lmao.
Because imagination has been left to rot for 25-ish years.
 
hospital cafeteria
The avengers campus they built here at California adventure feels like a generic business park or something I’d see at six flags not in a Disney park. They better announce a lot more about the avengers e ticket ride too at this years d23. Because if not or if they cancel it again, the campus is doomed.
 

aladdin2007

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I hate what they've done to my EPCOT Center. Individual piece parts may be fine, but it has lost its cohesive whole.
what they have done is turned it into a dumping ground so they can put whatever they want wherever they want, cohesiveness is gone and by design now. Epcot can still be great again. I still have hope that any upcoming projects may be better planned out, as test track could be the role model maybe going forward. However after the Morocco fiasco among other things it doesn't feel very promising does it. There is just no way SE escapes IP stuffing of some sort whenever it sees new attention.
 
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Bocabear

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The entire thing seemed like a project designed, built and funded by people who had never been to Epcot, Never designed anything for a theme park, and had no idea how to manage a budget....Design and placement by committee of people that have only worked in the Shopping center world... Baffling how one project could have so many blunders.
 

aladdin2007

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The entire thing seemed like a project designed, built and funded by people who had never been to Epcot, Never designed anything for a theme park, and had no idea how to manage a budget....Design and placement by committee of people that have only worked in the Shopping center world... Baffling how one project could have so many blunders.
all out of California I think, clueless.
 

Bocabear

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all out of California I think, clueless.
Yes but for some reason, they do a good job for Disneyland if it is exactly the same team... There should be enough people in place with TDO that understand that park...that could have prevented a lot of the failures of this "reimagining " of EPCOT...
 

DCLcruiser

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Yes but for some reason, they do a good job for Disneyland if it is exactly the same team... There should be enough people in place with TDO that understand that park...that could have prevented a lot of the failures of this "reimagining " of EPCOT...
That's because DLR is an heirloom. To be protected and cultivated. Everything else is a money grab. WDW is looked down upon.
 

DreamfinderGuy

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The entire thing seemed like a project designed, built and funded by people who had never been to Epcot, Never designed anything for a theme park, and had no idea how to manage a budget....Design and placement by committee of people that have only worked in the Shopping center world... Baffling how one project could have so many blunders.
If you're referring to SSE (though I feel like you mean the EPCOT project at large) there's a funny story behind that! They had no idea that all the little remnants of the 94 show were still there until after they made it to the project site (this was after the rehab was already announced iirc, and certainly long after creative was well underway).

There wasn't documentation within WDI notating that stuff was still there. The last rehab was designed assuming those rooms were all empty. So maybe not "had never been to EPCOT", but hadn't been poking around the guts of SSE lol.
 

BasiltheBatLord

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If you're referring to SSE (though I feel like you mean the EPCOT project at large) there's a funny story behind that! They had no idea that all the little remnants of the 94 show were still there until after they made it to the project site (this was after the rehab was already announced iirc, and certainly long after creative was well underway).

There wasn't documentation within WDI notating that stuff was still there. The last rehab was designed assuming those rooms were all empty. So maybe not "had never been to EPCOT", but hadn't been poking around the guts of SSE lol.
That seems surprising considering I would assume any CM working SSE would be aware that that stuff is there. Don't they see some of it during track walks, don't other CMs tell them about it?

I know WDI is not the same as operations, but you would think it would be well known within the company.
 

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