Go back and read my posts. I didn't make the claim that Disney was "worse than other parks" (or that it "sucks" for that matter). I merely asked you if you could substantiate your claim that it "surpasses all other parks in safety", and you can't. All you can point out are attendance records. All that proves is that Disney's marketing is more successful. In fact, in the Columbia incident at Disneyland several years ago, I recall reading somewhere that attendance actually INCREASED at the park following all the press about the accident (attributed to the public's morbid curiosity). So I don't think attendance figures are directly proportionate to safety.
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Go back and read my posts. I didn't make the claim that Disney was "worse than other parks" (or that it "sucks" for that matter). I merely asked you if you could substantiate your claim that it "surpasses all other parks in safety", and you can't. All you can point out are attendance records. All that proves is that Disney's marketing is more successful. In fact, in the Columbia incident at Disneyland several years ago, I recall reading somewhere that attendance actually INCREASED at the park following all the press about the accident (attributed to the public's morbid curiosity). So I don't think attendance figures are directly proportionate to safety.
DisneyWonders07
New Member
Well ok whatever you say. This thread is pretty pathetic when people start to diss Disney (not addressing Merlin). That just ain't right. I don't think I wanna reply to any more posts in this thread because like someone said before, nobody is going to win. The case will be settled and it'll be over with, end of story. There really is no reason for argument because nobody has all the info cept the attorneys and what not. Therefore, nobody can say they are right or wrong because nobody really knows. So for everyone that says it was Disney's fault, don't go making assumptions based on what the media tells you, because you don't know all the facts. For the people who defend Disney, it goes the same for you. Trust me, I'm just as at fault for actually responding to this thread like the rest of you. Oh yeah one more thing, who's to say it was a piece of metal that came off the ride? For all we know it coulda been somebody's camcorder battery like mentioned before. It's not Disney's fault if somebody drops their camcorder battery over the side. See what I mean? We don't even know the truth! So I'll be posting elsewhere, that's all I have to say to this stupid topic...
darthdarrel
New Member
I agree Disney should do something,like a net,to further passengers safety. It is sad to state that this is definately Disney`s fault ,for the very fact that it happened in disney property. Just like if the mail man slips on your property,while delivering mail to you,and falls and sprains his ankle,it is your fault and he has every right to sue you,that`s what home owners insurance is for.
KathyG/poohbear
New Member
I have always thought Disney was the safest park too. I am not sure why...maybe because they would have so much to lose if something really happened. I do remember that there is a website that lists all the accidents at themeparks and you almost never see Disney's name. I just can't remember the website. Sorry,....
Exactly!! And if it turned out that several people had slipped in that exact same spot before, then said mailman would probably have an even more rock solid case! To me, that's what really solidifies this case...the fact that this has happened before and Disney didn't do anything about it.
That may very well be true. And like I stated earlier, I never said Disney was less safe than other parks. And I'm not necessarily disputing the claim that Disney IS the safest park. I was simply asking DisneyWonders07 if he/she had any sources to back up this claim (as did another member), and he/she freaked out and accused me of saying that Disney sucked.
If you find that web site you're referring to, I'd be interested in seeing the link. Thanks!
SpongeScott
Well-Known Member
I don't know if this is exactly what you are looking for, but this is an interesting website on amusement park accidents. Take a peek.
http://members.aol.com/rides911/accidents.htm
SKYWAY 4 ME
Active Member
Merlin, Ok so if I come over to your house and something falls from the sky and hits me in the head , you say I can sue because I was on your property!!!! YOU WOULD BE FURIOUS !!!!Right? OK, now bare with me, it sounds ridiculous . I know what the law is and i dont agree with it always in regards to this huge problem that everyone wants to sue everyone. Now the odds of 2 cars passing over and under each at the exact moment and coincidentally an object falls from the above car and strikes this man in the head, is about as slim of ODDS as you and I inhereting the parks !! now think of it again. John
EchoOfOphelia
New Member
I didn't know about this lawsuit, thanks for posting it. I'm not quite sure what to make of it though, the fact that he was unconcious when the train stopped makes it obvious that something happened. And I don't get how he could of possibly stood up with the lap bar down. I have a gut feeling that he is telling the truth, to what extent he really was injured is for the doctors to decide.
And people please hold on to your belongings! This is not a fast coaster!
And people please hold on to your belongings! This is not a fast coaster!
Main Street USA
Well-Known Member
You continue to ignore the most obvious reasons why this guy SHOULD sue. Read everything again, then post.
Glasgow
Well-Known Member
Well, I am a big fan of Disney and just got back from vacation there, but I have to say if this happened to a member of my family I would definitely consider sueing. If it isn't Disney's fault, then whose fault is it? If it is proven that this guy was negligent or somehow brought this against himself then so be it, but if not then he is entitled to a settlement. Don't be naive and think that because it's Disney that they can do no wrong - they are a business and they want to make money.. make your own decisions and come to your own conclusions.
SKYWAY 4 ME
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It never said he could fluently speak english or not.......hmmm makes me wonder If he didnt understand the words "stay seated".
Im out on this subject its pitiful. J
Im out on this subject its pitiful. J
SKYWAY 4 ME
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Well put glasgow !! I agee , but when does the envelope get pushed too far. Individuals who are not resposible for there own actions I see this everyday ???. Disney is no exception , they have had accidents like any company, I believe they are a target for these acts .Real or not, this is nothing new to them.Weeding out the false and the true ones we will see. J
Actually, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe something DID "fall from the sky" and hit you on the head! Your posts make no sense! But I'll try to respond nonetheless. First of all, the object in question (camcorder battery, glass-encased candle, ...whatever it was) did not "fall from the sky". The suit is claiming that it was dropped from another rocket overhead. This theory is supported by the fact that objects of this nature are found "every day" (according to ride operators) on the floor of the attraction. It is further supported by the fact that this incident has occured on other occasions.
To the second part of your question: If you were on my property and something "fell from the sky" and hit you on the head, I think I'd have a leg to stand on in terms of not having to pay you a dime. But let's say I had this huge tree in my yard and I was always letting a bunch of people climb it at once. And every now and then something would get dropped and hit one of my guests on the head. If I knew that was happening, but did nothing to prevent it, and then you came over and it happened to you, then yes I would say you'd have every right to sue me.
SKYWAY 4 ME
Active Member
Merlin, According to the attourneys at law its called " AN ACT OF NATURE " If something fell from the sky and hit anyone , you , me mickey ........you could be sued!!!!!!! Im saying in laymen terms for you.......to understand . Disney cant be resposible for everyones actions in the park whether someone spits on someone, throws something or even drops something. I would say that in a world where thousand visit there is no way to control peoples action in the park. Let us know when you trip over a piece of gum ,diaper or french fry in the park and fall . I want to follow the lawsuit especially since everyday disney scrapes up 200lbs of it. Oh your testimony will be "disney knew it was happening daily ", but did nothing about it right !!!J
Well, I'm no attorney (and judging from your posts, I'm confident that nor are you), but I thought "AN ACT OF NATURE" was the opposite of what you're claiming it to be. If someone makes the case that an incident is "AN ACT OF NATURE", doesn't that mean that NO ONE is responsible (and consequently can't be found liable)? I could be wrong. Again, I'm no attorney. I'm just stating what seems like common sense to me.
Still, I appreciate you "saying in laymen terms" so I'll understand (If you could also work on your spelling and grammar, that will make it even EASIER for me to understand).
To address your argument, though (and more importantly, to get back to the subject at hand)....You are correct that Disney is not responsible for the conduct of every guest in their parks. Disney is responsible, however, for what occurs as a result of that conduct (particularly if it poses a safety risk to other guests). If I were to "trip over a piece of gum" at a Disney park, then I can't imagine I would sue. However, I do know enough about the law to know that I COULD sue (Whether or not I would actually WIN is a different thing). But if I (or a family member) were hit in the head on a Disney attraction, by an object dropped by a guest, and it caused serious injury, AND I discovered that this had occured before, AND it could be established that Disney was AWARE it had happened before, AND they did nothing to prevent, AND there had been specific suggestions on HOW they could have prevented it....then you betcha! I would go after them with an arsenal of attorneys.
I know that frivolous lawsuits are brought against big companies like Disney way too often, and that happens because plaintiffs are motivated by greed. I don't think anyone on this thread is saying otherwise. But that is not the case here. This is clearly not a frivolous lawsuit. The guy was injured, it dramatically has affected his life in a negative way, and Disney is responsible in this case.
jaylenofan86
New Member
I have a question that has been on my mind for a while. If the people who dropped their camera battery or glass-encased candle went to the lost and found to get these items, couldn't they be sued also?
KathyG/poohbear
New Member
Yes, thanks that is it the website.