Space Mountain Heading to the Scrap Heap :)

[Master Yoda]

Not to mention "redoing" 3 hours of work due to power outage. man, hate that for you.

I would imagine US has them too, just not the large following of fans to keep up with them.

That did suck big time. While computers have drastically increased the amount of work we can do in a given time they have also made it to where said work can disappear in the blink of an eye.

 

[Findus]

Hi everyone.

A long time lurker first time poster.

I just saw this on the D23 website in the twilight bark section:

06.09.09 — Space Mountain at Walt Disney World Set to Soar November 21!
New track, a new ceiling and audio-visual upgrades will be in store when Space Mountain re-opens on November 21 after a planned refurbishment.

 

[joel_maxwell]

Hi everyone.

A long time lurker first time poster.

I just saw this on the D23 website in the twilight bark section:

Welcome to wdwmagic, well, as a poster.

You might have just gotten a lot of new friends. :lol: That can all be true and still not a complete overhaul. It can have "new" track if one section is replaced so on and so forth. It is tricky how wording is coming out about it. You have to read between the lines.

 

[Jason_Garcia]

Re: The $12.3 million

Hi,

I'm the reporter with the Orlando Sentinel covering Disney and I thought I may be able to add (a little) clarity about the $12.3 million. The figure is not based on any single permit; rather, it comes from a brief summary of the Space Mountain renovations put together by Reedy Creek's Building & Safety department for the district's Board of Supervisors.


As far as individual permit values go, the main permit for the project (for "improvements to facility, ride controls, fire alarm and guest flow") has a project value of about $8.6 million. I'm told there are another eight or so smaller permits that have been filed so far for the Space Mountain work, pushing the cumulative value to about $10.8 million, but I have not yet reviewed those permits myself.


I'm not sure where the remaining $1.5 million in Reedy Creek's total comes from -- my guess is that the difference will eventually show up in future permits, but that's just a guess. It's also possible that the overall $12.3 million figure could rise if more work is added down the road, although no one has told me one way or the other whether that's likely to happen.


As for what the amount represents, the permit figures are supposed to reflect all construction costs, including labor and materials. They typically do not reflect money spent on research or design, or on land.


Hope that helps a little bit.


Jason Garcia
jrgarcia@orlandosentinel.com

 

[hwdelien]

Wow, thanks Jason. Welcome to the forum. It'll be great to hear from you on this and other projects you are covering.

 

[joel_maxwell]

Thanks Jason.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Hi everyone.

A long time lurker first time poster.

I just saw this on the D23 website in the twilight bark section:

Very interesting. Audio Visual suggest that audio will be outside the car, but linked to what part of the ride you are on.

Maybe I'm too optimistic...But that sounds like something new.

Hi,

I'm the reporter with the Orlando Sentinel covering Disney and I thought I may be able to add (a little) clarity about the $12.3 million. The figure is not based on any single permit; rather, it comes from a brief summary of the Space Mountain renovations put together by Reedy Creek's Building & Safety department for the district's Board of Supervisors.


As far as individual permit values go, the main permit for the project (for "improvements to facility, ride controls, fire alarm and guest flow") has a project value of about $8.6 million. I'm told there are another eight or so smaller permits that have been filed so far for the Space Mountain work, pushing the cumulative value to about $10.8 million, but I have not yet reviewed those permits myself.


I'm not sure where the remaining $1.5 million in Reedy Creek's total comes from -- my guess is that the difference will eventually show up in future permits, but that's just a guess. It's also possible that the overall $12.3 million figure could rise if more work is added down the road, although no one has told me one way or the other whether that's likely to happen.


As for what the amount represents, the permit figures are supposed to reflect all construction costs, including labor and materials. They typically do not reflect money spent on research or design, or on land.


Hope that helps a little bit.


Jason Garcia
jrgarcia@orlandosentinel.com

Very interesting. Thanks Jason.

 

[Thrill Seeker]

Very cool! New info is always appreciated.

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Is anyone else having a Count of Monte Cristo flashback?

Yeah... I love that sandwich.


:lookaroun:lol:

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Hi,

I'm the reporter with the Orlando Sentinel covering Disney and I thought I may be able to add (a little) clarity about the $12.3 million. The figure is not based on any single permit; rather, it comes from a brief summary of the Space Mountain renovations put together by Reedy Creek's Building & Safety department for the district's Board of Supervisors.


As far as individual permit values go, the main permit for the project (for "improvements to facility, ride controls, fire alarm and guest flow") has a project value of about $8.6 million. I'm told there are another eight or so smaller permits that have been filed so far for the Space Mountain work, pushing the cumulative value to about $10.8 million, but I have not yet reviewed those permits myself.


I'm not sure where the remaining $1.5 million in Reedy Creek's total comes from -- my guess is that the difference will eventually show up in future permits, but that's just a guess. It's also possible that the overall $12.3 million figure could rise if more work is added down the road, although no one has told me one way or the other whether that's likely to happen.


As for what the amount represents, the permit figures are supposed to reflect all construction costs, including labor and materials. They typically do not reflect money spent on research or design, or on land.


Hope that helps a little bit.


Jason Garcia
jrgarcia@orlandosentinel.com

Eek.

While I appreciate the info... This does nothing to calm my fears that this thing is going to be underwhelming.

Thanks for posting, Jason.

 

[hardcard]

oh well, went by SM last night... nothing new to see really...... but I did manage to get caught by a train

darn, I hate it when I catch a train

 

[EpcoTim]

That gate seems to be pretty high up considering how close to the crossing the train is.

 

[hardcard]

it was on its way back up.. they are manually de-activated when the train rolls in from MK.. It doesn't go straight into the roundhouse.. That way they can clean it down before being put to bed..

 

[GothMickey]

Welcome to the boards Jason.

WDWmagic members: Now you have to be nice when talking about the Orlando Slanti.. er, Sentinel.

 

[kcnole]

audio visual upgrades could also just reference things like the lift hill which have been there for years. There's an audio sound that plays as you climb that lift hill, maybe its getting a new effect and sound. I'm hoping it means much more than a few things like that but my hopes are not up until I hear something more concrete.

 

[hardcard]

could be...... doesn't HAVE to have anything to do with the trains at all..


Personally, I think I miss TTA more than SM right now... MK was packed yesterday, generally I get on TTA in those situations to 'survey the park' to decide what to do next..... yeah, can't do that right now..

Meanwhile, saw someone 'find out' SM was closed until November... They were, um.... ed and let the CM know it

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Yeah... I love that sandwich.


:lookaroun:lol:

:lol:

could be...... doesn't HAVE to have anything to do with the trains at all..


Personally, I think I miss TTA more than SM right now... MK was packed yesterday, generally I get on TTA in those situations to 'survey the park' to decide what to do next..... yeah, can't do that right now..

Meanwhile, saw someone 'find out' SM was closed until November... They were, um.... ed and let the CM know it

Nice pics of the train, HardCard!

Yeah, I'm going to miss TTA too...Hoping for SO's though...:lookaroun

 

[The Conundrum]

Hi everyone.

A long time lurker first time poster.

I just saw this on the D23 website in the twilight bark section:

It is a sad day when Disney hypes up a "new ceiling" and "new track" as something to get excited about to lure ppl back to WDW.

If they wanted to hype it they should have either created a brand new long track or two different tracks (1 wild 1 mild) in the ride like they were originally PLANNING to do or add something more significant.

I will not get excited over "new track/new ceilieng" "a/v upgrades" that should be standard every few years like it was before the late 90s.

 

[WDWGoof07]

It is a sad day when Disney hypes up a "new ceiling" and "new track" as something to get excited about to lure ppl back to WDW.

If they wanted to hype it they should have either created a brand new long track or two different tracks (1 wild 1 mild) in the ride like they were originally PLANNING to do or add something more significant.

I will not get excited over "new track/new ceilieng" "a/v upgrades" that should be standard every few years like it was before the late 90s.

What you are referring to was posted to the D23 website, which is meant for fans who actually care about such things. Disney hasn't been hyping this to the general public as if it were supposed to be a major draw for the resort. This is only a refurbishment, and Disney is treating it as such.

 

[marni1971]

If they wanted to hype it they should have either created a brand new long track or two different tracks (1 wild 1 mild) in the ride like they were originally PLANNING to do or add something more significant.

Blue sky only; the refurb has always been to replace the current layout with a carbon copy. The original plans were far more exciting and worthy of what the attraction needs.