Song of the South Video

will_hsv

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Original Poster
I was looking through the classifieds section of the paper and saw this. I remember seeing someone discussing the availability of the movie earlier and thought I would post this. I have not called the number and do not know anything else about it, but here is the ad.

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Miscellaneous For Sale

SONG OF THE SOUTH (tales of Uncle Remus) full length VCR tape. $29. Available in DVD. 888-728-6441.
Published in Huntsville Times on 08/04
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SirNim

Well-Known Member
If the VHS is a copy of the PAL format of the film (from Europe, which is the most likely case), and you are sold the VHS copy (or a DVD) without the accompanying "official" PAL release, it is illegal.
 

Erika

Moderator
tigsmom said:
Interesting. So many people haven't seen this movie and want to. He might do better ($ wise) on ebay.

Or not- the Buy It Nows on eBay are only $24.95 with shipping included :lol:


I think we paid around $30 for our copy.
 

barnum42

New Member
It is only available as a pirate copy in America. Over here in the UK it was released on VHS so you may find legal second hand copies, but of course they will be PAL and so not play on American kit.
 

orlpassholder

New Member
There is actually two "sources" of the movie for sale and online. The first being the European PAL format the other being a copy out of Japan. I currently own the Japan version. It has subtitles during the songs.

Good movie all around. There was never an OFFICIAL DVD release so any of them that you buy will either be VCD or a DVD-R
 

StevenT

New Member
I do beleive Disney-Central has a rip of the Japanese version for DivX. Anyone with a fast connection might want to check that out ;)
 

se8472

Well-Known Member
What? I thought the movie had not been for sale in like 50 years or something...

I just remember coming home one day and seeing the tap to this movie sitting on top out the TV. Pondering what it was I asked my roommate and he told me its the movie splash mt is based off of. I remember watching it and then letting it go...didn't know that you can't buy it or I might have ripped it :lookaroun

I saw the Japanese version
 

Figment1986

Well-Known Member
They probably will release the 50th Anniversary DVD edtion in every major country but USA.... If only i had money for the english edtion... and a american format copy of that....
 

barnum42

New Member
Figment1986 said:
They probably will release the 50th Anniversary DVD edtion in every major country but USA.... If only i had money for the english edtion... and a american format copy of that....
In the UK most DVDs can be made to work with DVDs from around the world via a handeset hack (At least most non huge brand models, which would need a chip fitted) and many TVs from the last several years will show the pictures, so I don't see why the reverse would not be possible in America. If so there are plenty of websites from where you could buy a copy should it come out.
 

imagineer99

New Member
This may sound stupid, but I have never actually seen Song of the South (only brief clips.)

How Politically Incorrect is it?
Is it really that offensive?
 

barnum42

New Member
imagineer99 said:
This may sound stupid, but I have never actually seen Song of the South (only brief clips.)

How Politically Incorrect is it?
Is it really that offensive?
IMHO it is not politically incorrect at all. I guess the PC fanatics would want to ban anything showing a black slave head bowed, hat in hands begging for "Massa's forgiveness".

To me the fact that Uncle Remus is in this situation yet still maintains his dignity and helps out the white son of his master, portrays the man in nothing but a positive light.
 

maelstrom

Well-Known Member
barnum42 said:
To me the fact that Uncle Remus is in this situation yet still maintains his dignity and helps out the white son of his master, portrays the man in nothing but a positive light.

My thoughts exactly.
 

kammybug

Member
In my opinion, this movie is not politically incorrect in any way. It's not even as bad as Gone With the Wind and they still have that movie around. So I really don't understand why they took it off the American market.
 

slappy magoo

Well-Known Member
I don't think it's all that offensive. I think Gone With the Wind is MORE offensive, IMHO. But then again, I'm a white guy, and not always the most sensitive one. So the filter through which I watch movies is not the same as everyone else's...

If memory serves the movie takes place right after the Civil War, but most of the former slaves are still working the fields. Either that or it's still pre-Civil War and black people ARE slaves. Of course, there have been plenty of movies featuring black people as slaves, but in Song of the South, the slaves usually seem pretty happy. Singing, dancing, it's great to be alive, our massa's so good to us, that kind of thing. For some people who experienced (or still experience) the struggle of being black in America, the idea of this group of people being SO happy to be subjugated is insulting.

Add to that the sterotypical "Negro" way of talking-it's even written in the song lyrics: "It's the truth, it's ac'chual, everything is satisfac'ual." You also have little Johnny's relationship with Uncle Remus. Some see it as a young boy looking up to, and wanting to spend time with, and older man with incredible stories to tell, and what's the harm of that? Others see it as a spoiled little white boy using an old black man as a toy, winding him up and being entertained by him and his stories. When he's pining for Uncle Remus, is it love and friendship? Or a spoiled brat not getting his way and being allowed to "keep" an old black man the way others might keep a pet?

And of course there's the stereotypical fat Mammy character, played by
Oscar winner Hattie MacDaniel.

The tone of the film by its end is one of tolerance and acceptance, IMHO. But getting there, there are elements that are not historically accurate, and in the eyes of some, minimize the plight of being black in America, and can't appreciate it's end moral because of it.

FWIW, I have a copy on VHS, bumped it up to DVD-R recently, and I'll be the first to buy a legit DVD if one is released. I'm sure that most of us on this forum own the Walt Disney Treasures DVDs, the sets that come in limited numbered tins. So I'm sure we've seen at least some of the cartoons that include an intro by Leonard Maltin warning people that the next cartoon may be considered offensive today, but will hopefully be understood in the context of the time in which it was made. What I HOPE is that they might do the same thing with SotS, give it an introduction that'll dilute the concerns of racism, so everyone that wants to own the movie can.

Even now, technically, ANYONE can own a copy, as long as you buy a legitimate copy from overseas first, then pay to have it transferred to an American NTSC format, VHS OR DVD, which is exactly what I did. It's more expensive than just, say, buying a bootleg, but it falls under the Fair Use Law and wouldn't get you in trouble either. If you make a copy for anyone else, or for sale, then you run a pretty big risk.
 

barnum42

New Member
slappy magoo said:
But getting there, there are elements that are not historically accurate,
If not being historically accurate is a reason to ban a film then Hollywood would not be releasing many films :lol: Some examples:

Rob Roy - he was not a hero fighting for Scotish independance. He was a hired thug who would fight for whatever side paid him the highest purse.

U571 - It was not the Americans who captured this submarine.

Braveheart - Most true Scots don't hold with the all out woad portrayal.

Titanic - the whole eposide of the character of the Second Officer (I think) shooting off his gun and putting it to his own head is at odds with reported facts.

Practically any Custar's Last Stand type film. The man was a vicious egomaniac.

Richard the Lionheart is mostly portrayed as a good and Noble King of England. He did not even speak English and spent very little time there.

And regarding Song of the South and it's lack of historical accuracy - people at this time did not burst into song with animated animal characters ;)
 

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