DisneyJayL
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Look a crane. Glad that they are moving along with this.
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Soarin' Expansion and new Soarin' Around the World film
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zakattack99
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Generally speaking I like my cranes hiding behind castles for 6+ months... but I guess this is the next best thing!
all jokes aside great photos glad to see some progress!
TP2000
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Soarin' Over California reopened today at DCA after a five month refurbishment. The movie is now in 4K HD digital, and the images are STUNNINGLY CLEAR.
There's a lot of detail you've never seen before, suddenly jumping out at you. The image is perfect, the color is vibrant, and there is no film flutter or any speck of dust. It's simply perfect. Audio is also noticeably upgraded and boosted; it's clear and vibrant and enveloping. Obviously, they'll upgrade the two existing Epcot theaters as well at some point in this expansion project.
But, the 4K digital system also now makes it obvious that several scenes use very crude 1990's CGI effects. The hang glider over Yosemite National Park is the worst, as it looks like a cartoon superimposed over the image. The golf ball flying at you over Palm Springs also looks faker. But overall, Soarin' in 4K HD is a dramatic improvement in imagery and technology.
There's a lot of detail you've never seen before, suddenly jumping out at you. The image is perfect, the color is vibrant, and there is no film flutter or any speck of dust. It's simply perfect. Audio is also noticeably upgraded and boosted; it's clear and vibrant and enveloping. Obviously, they'll upgrade the two existing Epcot theaters as well at some point in this expansion project.
But, the 4K digital system also now makes it obvious that several scenes use very crude 1990's CGI effects. The hang glider over Yosemite National Park is the worst, as it looks like a cartoon superimposed over the image. The golf ball flying at you over Palm Springs also looks faker. But overall, Soarin' in 4K HD is a dramatic improvement in imagery and technology.
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TalkingHead
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Interesting. One cinephile on Twitter was saying the attraction's new picture is a "tragedy." Complained about color timing, brightness, resolution, etc.
TP2000
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Well, I'm not a cinephile.
I'm just a guy who has been on Soarin' lots of times in the last 15 years on both coasts, and this HD version seems like a dramatic improvement.
So a cinephile might have more to say about it than me. But, I do like Cinnabon, if that counts for anything.
Bolt
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Pretty sure they just upgraded the old version until the new stuff they filmed is debuted. Assuming they were just getting the new system in place.
ToTBellHop
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Yes. I assume the new video will be optimized for the 4K HD.
EPCOTCenterLover
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When you're at DHS, you have to ride those repeatedly. There are so few attractions in the park.
articos
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It will be.
DisneyCane
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It's not really the screen size that matters but how close you are to the screen. From 100 feet away, an old standard def TV will look sharp. In Soarin' you are very close to the screen and therefore should need more than 4k resolution to look as sharp as the IMAX film was. It will be interesting to see one day in person.
PhotoDave219
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More examples of why you should just build it right the first time....
I do miss the look of how film appears on screen.
I do miss the look of how film appears on screen.
Cosmic Commando
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That movie was made circa 2000... Disney is hardly alone in failing to anticipate the future HD era. If they eventually decide to keep the old film as an option, I wouldn't be surprised to see new CG in those scenes.
DisneyCane
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I don't think this is an issue of failing to anticipate the future. The IMAX 15 perf/70 mm film has MUCH higher resolution than 4K digital HD. The IMAX film frame is equivalent to somewhere around 16K (which is 16 times the resolution, not 4 times).
Most likely, the effects stand out due to the digital edges being more stark due to less resolution and less ability to transition from the superimposed effect to the natural photography.
Progress.City
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Let's be fair. They had no idea that there would be 4K video back then. Also, CG was still amazing and state of the art looking and had no idea 4K would be here today to pixelate it.
PhotoDave219
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70mm still kicks . I saw ET in 70mm in 1982. So dont give me this crap "They had no idea"...... short sighted people who have no business being in that position may have had no idea. Professionals would have.
Of course WDI has driven most of the professionals off....
Progress.City
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I know hindsight is 20/20. Don't tell me that when CG still new that you weren't impressed! I remember when the Abyss was first released. It looks cheesy now, but no one thought it looked cheesy back then!
DisneyCane
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The CG does not look worse because 4K video is better. IMAX 70mm film, as stated above, has MUCH higher resolution than 4K. If the CGI looks worse on the 4K version, it is due to other reasons, not the resolution. Well, at least not because the resolution is higher. I suspect that due to the REDUCED resolution, the CGI can't "blend" into the photography at the edges as well.
Darth Sidious
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70mm is more equivalent to what would be 8K in terms of resolution.